Injury 2024 Injury Thread

[freodog]

Disappointing he's a 120% guy in everything he does. Great role model for the young players coming through and again another hit to our depth.

Shame that Gunston has gone to Hawthorn he would have been a great replacement. I can't think of a recently retired/delisted medium forward which we could target to plug that spot.

 

[freo_leo29]

That’s true instead of running 36 + 6 we run 37 (minus Corbett on LTI) + 5 plus 1-2 additional rookies to account for Corbett as LTI and Kuek if also placed LTI.

Why would we do that when we save $80k in our cap if we delist and rookie Corbett

$80k is another swing at a SSP player, It's a no brainer

 

[Paracleet]

Why would we do that when we save $80k in our cap if we delist and rookie Corbett

$80k is another swing at a SSP player, It's a no brainer

An SSP is a rookie dude. By moving him to the LTI we will get an SSP. Only reason we would delist him would be to take two DFAs.

 

[freo_leo29]

An SSP is a rookie dude. By moving him to the LTI we will get an SSP. Only reason we would delist him would be to take two DFAs.

Moving him to the rookie list allows another DFA AND we can still pickup an extra ssp rookie

 

[Paracleet]

Moving him to the rookie list allows another DFA AND we can still pickup an extra ssp rookie

You were wrong just leave it. It wasn't a no brainier and we wouldn't save any money. (Whomever replaces him will have some of their wages outside the cap because they are on the RL. It's the same thing).

 

[Tonga Bob]

We're getting season ending injuries in October of the previous season? Get on our level, AFL!

Grim news for Josh though.

 

[DragoDelph]

We're getting season ending injuries in October of the previous season? Get on our level, AFL!

Grim news for Josh though.

I don't know how to take this omen..

 

[Joao]

I'm devastated for Josh because he seems like an absolute legend, and as much as depth could easily be a huge problem for us next year with some key injuries, not sure I can get on board this being a "huge blow".

 

[Paracleet]

I'm devastated for Josh because he seems like an absolute legend, and as much as depth could easily be a huge problem for us next year with some key injuries, not sure I can get on board this being a "huge blow".

It's a situation that provides us with an opportunity in a sense. We knew what we'd get with Corbett, whereas whomever we replace him with will potentially be better, but might be worse.

 

[Taylor]

The Mystery Box option.

 

[freo1]

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Must be the first step in my prediction of a horror 2024 with JL sacked by mid year.

Horrible for the bloke. He's one of the guys on a list who's more depth than anything, but critical for team culture and being a depth player who can come in and just provide a contest and fulfill a role. Really liked how he did that for us this year. Bummer for him and our group as a whole

 

[MadMac]

The Mystery Box option.

 

[Belnakor]

Far out that sucks for him. That's probably his career done.

yup. Glue factory.

 

[Superkoops]

You were wrong just leave it. It wasn't a no brainier and we wouldn't save any money. (Whomever replaces him will have some of their wages outside the cap because they are on the RL. It's the same thing).

Correct- not sure how the timing all works but we currently have 32 on the primary list (started 36, delisted/traded out 6, but upgraded Banfield/Treacy). If we add both Sharp and McDonald as DFA we have 34 on Primary list. Heading into ND, with the 2nd list lodgement we can run with our four picks but only use 3. We then have 37 on primary list.

Then I’m not sure but we confirm in the 3rd list lodgement (immediately prior to PSD/RD) that we have Corbett and potentially Kuek moved to inactive LTI. Therefore giving either of the following:
4 Rookie draft selections; or
2 Rookie draft selections, 2 SSP; or
2 Rookie draft selections, 1 SSP and 1 MSD.

Either way as you say it is all the same.

 

[freo_leo29]

You were wrong just leave it. It wasn't a no brainier and we wouldn't save any money. (Whomever replaces him will have some of their wages outside the cap because they are on the RL. It's the same thing).

If we take sharp on the main list then we do save 80k...


If we run 36 on the main list rather than 37, the club has previously stated that we are taking 3 national draft picks


If we take Mcdonald, sharp and 3 nd picks then we have to delist and rookie Corbett to save 80k


It's a no brainer.


Edit: to add to this, I was replying to someone suggesting we run with 37 +5 so we clearly 100% do save 80k if we run with 36 + 6 (which I was suggesting by delisting Corbett), clearly you were wrong.

 

[Paracleet]

Correct- not sure how the timing all works but we currently have 32 on the primary list (started 36, delisted/traded out 6, but upgraded Banfield/Treacy). If we add both Sharp and McDonald as DFA we have 34 on Primary list. Heading into ND, with the 2nd list lodgement we can run with our four picks but only use 3. We then have 37 on primary list.

Then I’m not sure but we confirm in the 3rd list lodgement (immediately prior to PSD/RD) that we have Corbett and potentially Kuek moved to inactive LTI. Therefore giving either of the following:
4 Rookie draft selections; or
2 Rookie draft selections, 2 SSP; or
2 Rookie draft selections, 1 SSP and 1 MSD.

Either way as you say it is all the same.

Wrong thread but we're already started: Does this enable us to stooge the 36 minimum main list requirement by virtue of his empty spot being able to be filled by a rookie even though he is main list (LTI)? I.E. running 35 / 7/ 2. Or would that only fly if it had occurred after list lodgement 3 (I.E> post draft)?

I suppose I should be reading the rules first before asking the question..

 

[freo_leo29]

Wrong thread but we're already started: Does this enable us to stooge the 36 minimum main list requirement by virtue of his empty spot being able to be filled by a rookie even though he is main list (LTI)? I.E. running 35 / 7/ 2. Or would that only fly if it had occurred after list lodgement 3 (I.E> post draft)?

I suppose I should be reading the rules first before asking the question..

Can't run 35, lti will happen after list lodgement, must run a minimum of 36

 

[Paracleet]

If we take sharp on the main list then we do save 80k...


If we run 36 on the main list rather than 37, the club has previously stated that we are taking 3 national draft picks


If we take Mcdonald, sharp and 3 nd picks then we have to delist and rookie Corbett to save 80k


It's a no brainer.


Edit: to add to this, I was replying to someone suggesting we run with 37 +5 so we clearly 100% do save 80k if we run with 36 + 6 (which I was suggesting by delisting Corbett), clearly you were wrong.

You can't put a RL player on the LTI. If was transferred to the RL he would occupy a spot. We were always planning to run 36 and 6. If we had wanted a main list spot for two DFA's and 3 main draft we would already have delisted someone for it. Obviously the intent for Sharp, if he is coming, is for a rookie contract.

 

[freo_leo29]

You can't put a RL player on the LTI. If was transferred to the RL he would occupy a spot. We were always planning to run 36 and 6. If we had wanted a main list spot for two DFA's and 3 main draft we would already have delisted someone for it. Obviously the intent for Sharp, if he is coming, is for a rookie contract.

We couldn't delist someone for it as there was Noone to move previously, now there is


That's interesting on the lti thing, is there any evidence of this? I hope it's not true as I don't see any reason keeping kuek if we can't replace him


Hopefully sharp will wait for an ssp contract, would have thought he would want it sorted asap though

 

[freo_leo29]

Josh Corbett injury update

Josh Corbett has been ruled out for the 2024 season with a hip injury

www.fremantlefc.com.au

Club confirms we are not delisting him

Out for the whole year

 

[Paracleet]

We couldn't delist someone for it as there was Noone to move previously, now there is


That's interesting on the lti thing, is there any evidence of this? I hope it's not true as I don't see any reason keeping kuek if we can't replace him


Hopefully sharp will wait for an ssp contract, would have thought he would want it sorted asap though

Go have a read of the AFL rules it's plain enough.


As for the first part that’s clearly not true. We had already made up our mind on what we were doing, even its not clear to us on the outside, the DFA period opens on Monday. As of yesterday there were only 4 main list spots available assuming we wanted to run 36 and 6 with 3 main draft picks. Either we had to have delisted someone in contract already or we were happy to run 37 and 5 if had wanted to take two DFA's.

Since we didn’t plan to trade Schultz and had gone in to the trade period with all players who hadn’t requested a trade either under contract, or with a contract offer, I’d further speculate the original plan only involved offering rookie (SSP) contracts for these guys and his departure has opened up the opportunity to guarantee we get one.

 

[freo_leo29]

Go have a read of the AFL rules it's plain enough.


As for the first part that’s clearly not true. We had already made up our mind on what we were doing, even its not clear to us on the outside, the DFA period opens on Monday. As of yesterday there were only 4 main list spots available assuming we wanted to run 36 and 6 with 3 main draft picks. Either we had to have delisted someone in contract already or we were happy to run 37 and 5 if had wanted to take two DFA's.

Since we didn’t plan to trade Schultz and had gone in to the trade period with all players who hadn’t requested a trade either under contract, or with a contract offer, I’d further speculate the original plan only involved offering rookie (SSP) contracts for these guys and his departure has opened up the opportunity to guarantee we get one.

I still really doubt we run 37 and 5, it just doesn't make sense financially

I'll stick with that point through and through that we will save the 80k by only running 36 on the main list


Hopefully we can convince sharp to wait til the ssp, unsure if west coast would try and poach him or not.

 

[dropbear101]

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you beat me to it.

 

[dropbear101]

take note everyone

 

[FreoRicci]

Tabs will be even more important now