Banter RDT CLXXXVI - Trucko’s Salty Water

[Keys]

Racism is racism as far as I'm concerned. If we have different rules for one, compared to another, based on skin colour, then guess what that is?

I agree and I think the race card gets used way too often but I just can’t get worked up about stupid white bastard

But it’s the way of the world where insignificant things get blown out of all proportion whilst far more horrific acts garner almost no attention because they’re genuinely uncomfortable for people to talk about

I’m stopping now because I’m dangerously close to unintentionally summoning $Beetlejuice$

 

[Dazzler9]

I agree and I think the race card gets used way too often but I just can’t get worked up about stupid white bastard

But it’s the way of the world where insignificant things get blown out of all proportion whilst far more horrific acts garner almost no attention because they’re genuinely uncomfortable for people to talk about

I’m stopping now because I’m dangerously close to unintentionally summoning $Beetlejuice$

I'm not particularly worked up by it either, but some peoples' reactions surprised me is all. If we want equality, we've gotta treat everyone equally.

Anyways, more important issues in the world, like you say.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Racism is racism as far as I'm concerned. If we have different rules for one, compared to another, based on skin colour, then guess what that is?

But these particular rules are there to correct historical injustice. Non-white people in Britain have historically (and unfortunately presently, including by the police) been discrimated against and subject to violence and vitriol based on race. The intention of the law is to correct these attitudes and behaviours using the power of the state, rather waiting for them to go away on their own. There's not much point having a law to protect a person already getting the benefit without the law, who has received that benefit for some time.

Now if she'd called him a stupid specific type of white bastard (e.g. Polish, Irish), there'd be more of a case. Unless it was 'stupid Anglo-Saxon bastard' but that doesn't roll off the tongue.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Even if it was the other way around and it was a white man/woman saying that to a black policeman, how on earth does it warrant a 12-month investigation and a four-day trial?

Scotland Yard got a bit of time on their hands at the moment, do they?

 

[Truckosaurus]

Also I call shotgun on Stupid White Bastards as a trivia team name.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Even if it was the other way around and it was a white man/woman saying that to a black policeman, how on earth does it warrant a 12-month investigation and a four-day trial?

Scotland Yard got a bit of time on their hands at the moment, do they?

Well now that they've fixed all their other problems

 

[ep2018]

A complete overreaction. Calling someone a black bastard shouldn't land you in court either for what its worth.

 

[Keys]

But these particular rules are there to correct historical injustice. Non-white people in Britain have historically (and unfortunately presently, including by the police) been discrimated against and subject to violence and vitriol based on race. The intention of the law is to correct these attitudes and behaviours using the power of the state, rather waiting for them to go away on their own. There's not much point having a law to protect a person already getting the benefit without the law, who has received that benefit for some time.

Now if she'd called him a stupid specific type of white bastard (e.g. Polish, Irish), there'd be more of a case. Unless it was 'stupid Anglo-Saxon bastard' but that doesn't roll off the tongue.

Personally I think there’s been an over correction with that sort of stuff

But I’m just a stupid, middle aged, straight, white male so my opinion no longer counts

 

[Dazzler9]

But these particular rules are there to correct historical injustice. Non-white people in Britain have historically (and unfortunately presently, including by the police) been discrimated against and subject to violence and vitriol based on race. The intention of the law is to correct these attitudes and behaviours using the power of the state, rather waiting for them to go away on their own. There's not much point having a law to protect a person already getting the benefit without the law, who has received that benefit for some time.

Now if she'd called him a stupid specific type of white bastard (e.g. Polish, Irish), there'd be more of a case. Unless it was 'stupid Anglo-Saxon bastard' but that doesn't roll off the tongue.

I wasn't commenting on the laws. I'm commenting on someone making a racial comment. It's just not on.

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[Dazzler9]

A complete overreaction. Calling someone a black bastard shouldn't land you in court either for what its worth.

Yeah I agree with that. The case itself is bloody stupid.

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[Truckosaurus]

Personally I think there’s been an over correction with that sort of stuff

But I’m just a stupid, middle aged, straight, white male so my opinion no longer counts

By middle-aged you mean born in the Middle Ages, right?

 

[Ochre]

I'm not particularly worked up by it either, but some peoples' reactions surprised me is all. If we want equality, we've gotta treat everyone equally.

Anyways, more important issues in the world, like you say.

You don't make two unequal things equal by treating them both the same.

 

[Ochre]

This is obstenstibly because the last 45s are relevant to the above, but mainly just because I like posting Acaster clips.

 

[KERRPOW]

"Stupid white bastards" sounds like a movie title....

Or the guys that host the WCE bigfooty podcast

 

[Dazzler9]

You don't make two unequal things equal by treating them both the same.

So racism is bad unless directed towards a white person, which makes it less bad. Got it.

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[Carbine Chaos]

So racism is bad unless directed towards a white person, which makes it less bad. Got it.

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Equality and equity are different things.

 

[KERRPOW]

So racism is bad unless directed towards a white person, which makes it less bad. Got it.

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To be honest, yep.

 

[Dazzler9]

To be honest, yep.

Yeah, nah. That's BS

I have a brown daughter and a white daughter. I can't imagine a world in which I disciplined one of them for using racial slurs against her sister, but let the other one get away with it if she did the same.

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[sharps24]

Insurance is that one weird thing that you pay for but hope never to have to use

Much like silver bullets.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Much like silver bullets.

If you're buying silver bullets....

.... I can get you a great deal! Call me.

 

[sharps24]

Everyone seems to be making light of the alleged comment, but I don't think we should be condoning racist language in any way. Imagine the roles were reversed and the officer called Kerr a stupid darkie b*tch.

Is it actually illegal to make racist comments in the UK, by the way?

Pretty much everything is illegal in the UK. Someone just went to jail for 2 years for putting up some pretty mild anti immigration stickers. And then of course there was this doozy, which had an interesting part 2 some months later for the officer involved.

Mum of girl who said cop looks 'like lesbian nan' to take legal action

EXCLUSIVE: The 16-year-old girl, who also suffers from spinal disability scoliosis, had been driven to her home in Leeds, West Yorkshire, by officers after attending the city's Gay Pride celebrations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[shoutsatclouds]

To be honest, yep.

 

[kane249]

WA to get its first Starbucks after $4m development approved

WA is set to get its first Starbucks after state planners unanimously approved a $4 million development, along with a 7-Eleven service station.

www.perthnow.com.au

yay?

FKASC

 

[Bender_]

Real coffee campaigner

 

[Dazzler9]

WA to get its first Starbucks after $4m development approved

WA is set to get its first Starbucks after state planners unanimously approved a $4 million development, along with a 7-Eleven service station.

www.perthnow.com.au

yay?

FKASC

We don't need it. But I'm sure the lumpenmasse will turn up in droves.