The non calls were hard to take particularly when Geelong were getting frees in their forward 50 like Miers in the opening stages
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yes, thats the angle we should be pushing. Miers led with his head and got rewarded. Absolute bullshit.
Been happening to Ginnivan for years. Umpires have an agreement among themselves not to pay him head high free kicks. It's pathetic.
One year ago...
One year ago...
He's an absolute magnet for attention isn't he?
The only bit of 'flair' or larrikin energy he brought was when he celebrated a goal. The rest of the game he was focused on the ball and when he didn't get free kicks he just got on with it.
Compare that to the Geelong windmill farm where they have there arms waving LITERALLY every time there's a contest or the ball goes out of bounds. Yet it's Ginnivan that played for free kicks? And Sicily who needs to mature and focus more on football.
Does my head in how clearly some players get the different treatment.
The only bit of 'flair' or larrikin energy he brought was when he celebrated a goal. The rest of the game he was focused on the ball and when he didn't get free kicks he just got on with it.
Compare that to the Geelong windmill farm where they have there arms waving LITERALLY every time there's a contest or the ball goes out of bounds. Yet it's Ginnivan that played for free kicks? And Sicily who needs to mature and focus more on football.
Does my head in how clearly some players get the different treatment.
He's a walking headline. Love it.
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I like Macrae, but he really threw Ginni under the bus with that horse race thing. First time Ginni hears its an issue is when Macrae is slagging him off to the media. Pretty poor to not mention anything to him first.
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The AFL do not want to pay these and have Ginni kick 40 in a year.
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Can't wait for Ginni to sue the shit out of the AFL if he ever has CTE issues in the future. Clearly hasn't received any protection and the head is not sacrosanct.
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I see Ginnivan has immaculate taste in Soccer players
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Good to hear Dwayne Russell going into bat for Ginnivan
It's been massively toned down and quite rightly so. To be fair there were plenty of instances where we could of got done like when in the 1st Hardwick gave away a free kick and then argued with the umpire that he didn't even hit him in the head (I think he even pointed to the replay on the screen). 100% would of been done when the AFL was going hard with it.
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Hang on - he wasn’t getting these sort of frees back in 2022…..and still kicked 40 for the year.
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Given CTE isn’t correctly diagnosed prior to death I’m happy to wait for as long as he lives.
His eyes are offsiiiiide
It's just crazy that they have these rules and not long ago it was "arms up is dissent" and 50s being paid. To then Hawkins carrying on like crazy yesterday after clearly giving away a free kick.
On Ginnivan, The AFL trained all these young players who grew up with Selwood doing it for 20 years and fans, media and players complained about his ducking and the umpires just kept paying it and said tackle better for YEARS it went on with the most obvious ducks, so much so that everytime he got a free you could see the frustration on the tackler knowing they did nothing wrong.
Now because a guy has admitted to practising it 2 years ago he never gets a free for the most blatant high tackles. I was saying this when he was at Collingwood, either change the rules or pay the frees.
Laura Kane of the AFL contacted the HFC today and said their umpires got it wrong yesterday. Particularly Ginnivan.
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Would Joel Selwood have had anywhere near the success he had as a player if he wasn't ever paid a head high free after ducking for the first 12 months? They often came at pretty handy moments for him and his club.
It's a question that needed asking or at least suggesting in the commentary booth during this game, but no-one was willing to rib him about it.
Silence was absolutely deafening, as others have mentioned.
It's a question that needed asking or at least suggesting in the commentary booth during this game, but no-one was willing to rib him about it.
Silence was absolutely deafening, as others have mentioned.
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i dont mind if umpires miss a call, it happens in a big, fast, congested game.
but when they deliberately pick and choose when they pay certain stuff based on the player's rep, that to me is unacceptable
It's not really umpiring at that point. It's getting involved in the contest.
They should do weeks for this, if they've fessed up to it.
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20% of Selwood's kicks came from free kicks, compared to a normal inside mid like Sam Mitchell which sits at 10%.
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It's fine to contact the club, but will they admit that publicly? As no player should ever be adjudicated differently.
It also really highlighted how amateurish the umpires were when Brad Close threw himself into the legs of a stationary Hawk and received a free kick.
All fans want to see is consistency, not guesswork.
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