List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[DopeMaster]

This is what I mean

I personally still don't see how this changes anything on Houston if we still get 13 from Gold Coast

Port wants Richards and Lukosius so I don't see what really changes here

Can someone who isn't just dooming and glooming for the sake of it explain how this actually changes anything if we're still getting 13 from Gold Coast?

Only if Carlton made the move in order to go after Houston, which it appears they didn't. I don't think they can fit him in their cap tbh, hence the potato fire-sale and the fact they haven't even offered him a contract.

All it does it give Gold Coast less leverage for pick 13 IMO.

 

[Horaceg]

Ralphy is a Richmond flog

With or without the Richmond tag

 

[CPH12]

Liking the way Leppa is talking and going about it. Very practical but strong on priorities. Of course, they always sound good on the Friday, let's see if it holds to next Wednesday evening.

 

[Exambolor]

I think it also tells you that the scum don't have the cap space for Houston.

They tried forcing out Owies and Kennedy and that didn’t work. They won’t be able to afford Barrass or Dan

 

[stormskye]

 

[tmpies01]

Can we just get our hands on 13 already… ffs. Get it done Leppa.

 

[Kappa]

Liking the way Leppa is talking and going about it. Very practical but strong on priorities. Of course, they always sound good on the Friday, let's see if it holds to next Wednesday evening.

Yep, this could be Leppa's best ever trade period

 

[VinnieB]

Laugh if the Bloos want to take both picks to the draft.

 

[CheckerTrade666]

Live scenes of Sam Sending that tweet

 

[nahnah]

Can we just get our hands on 13 already… ffs. Get it done Leppa.

I dont think we will ever technically own it, its a 3 team trade being worked out

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Only if Carlton made the move in order to go after Houston, which it appears they didn't. I don't think they can fit him in their cap tbh, hence the potato fire-sale and the fact they haven't even offered him a contract.

All it does it give Gold Coast less leverage for pick 13 IMO.

But even if they plan on going after Houston, what ca they offer that's genuinely more than what we can?

If we have 13 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and have Richards (whom Port wants)

Then what can Carlton offer?

12 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and that's it?

Ok? So...he'd still wind up with us lol

 

[Football God]

 

[Mollythedolly]

Now that the value of pick 13 has decreased slightly, let's try to target it for Noble deal and also get pick 23 ,and then trade 13 to Sydney for 19,22. Take 19,22,23,36 to the draft. Get what we can for Richards.

Have to have the list spots for each of those picks.

 

[VinnieB]

Yep, this could be Leppa's best ever trade period

He went out to grab a sanga and just got the news...

 

[DopeMaster]

But even if they plan on going after Houston, what ca they offer that's genuinely more than what we can?

If we have 13 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and have Richards (whom Port wants)

Then what can Carlton offer?

12 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and that's it?

Ok? So...he'd still wind up with us lol

Well they've got 12 and 14 now, so can theoretically offer more in trade than us. I suspect their cap is too tight.

 

[Visions]

Pick 13 is tied to the Noble deal and that could happen even if we don’t get Houston.

Before the Carlton swap with Hawthorn that just happened, l wouldn’t have thought so as theirs would have been the better offer.

Bur now l agree, we will get 13 somehow regardless of what happens with Houston.

 

[3rdMan]

They would offer 12 only but 13 and Richards isn’t enough?

Assuming accurate reporting, the Carlton move is a positive for us. If they're only prepared to offer pick 12 for Houston, if they get back in the picture, then we're a very good chance of holding onto pick 23 in a Houston deal.

 

[danielnajdek]

How about we just get 13 from GC and split it for Sydneys 2 picks.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Well they've got 12 and 14 now, so can theoretically offer more in trade than us. I suspect their cap is too tight.

But they're not going to offer 12 and 14 for Houston

So no...they can't offer more than us

Not only have they flat out said 100 times they rate this draft and first round picks in this draft, Houston is not worth Picks 12 and 14 under any circumstances.

I don't even think Carlton are that dumb

 

[Couch Coach]

But even if they plan on going after Houston, what ca they offer that's genuinely more than what we can?

If we have 13 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and have Richards (whom Port wants)

Then what can Carlton offer?

12 and a pick in the 20s or 30s and that's it?

Ok? So...he'd still wind up with us lol

Keep up
Carlton: 12, 14, 69, 72, 73

 

[Kappa]

Keep up
Carlton: 12, 14, 69, 72, 73

Can't see Carlton offering 69

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Keep up
Carlton: 12, 14, 69, 72, 73

Ok, so you're ultimately backing my argument

Unless somehow Carlton would be insane enough to offer Picks 12 and 14 for Houston, then they can't beat what we can offer for him

 

[Jen2310]

They have to split one of those high picks, what about the FS twins?
There is no points attached to those higher picks

eta: Nevermind, thats the new system next year
But either way they need to split one of those picks.

 

[DopeMaster]

But they're not going to offer 12 and 14 for Houston

So no...they can't offer more than us

Not only have they flat out said 100 times they rate this draft and first round picks in this draft, Houston is not worth Picks 12 and 14 under any circumstances.

I don't even think Carlton are that dumb

I don't think they will either, hence the word theoretically.

They can offer more than us but they wont as I don't think they have cap space and/or desire.

 

[Apex36]

Can't see Carlton offering 69

Easily the most valuable pick in the draft.