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They will have to come as salary dumps with Geelongs first round pick aswell.

Why would we want either?

I think Parish has looked worse because of the rest of the team playing badly around him.

Coaches obviously dont agree.

Unlikely, Parish is easily top of our coaches votes atm.

Parish

Its a team sport not an individual one. Parish cant make up for how bad the rest of the team is playing.

Parish is 1st for score involvements and 4th for metres gained per game at Essendon. If he wasnt getting the ball forward or damaging with the ball like you are suggesting that wouldnt be the case.

The question was "what is his upside". Im not saying he will be able to run as hard as Boak or kick as well as either of them, he could be a complete bust. However they are a similar type of player and what he should be trying to emulate in the future.

Im sure Hobbs running will improve although I dont think its poor atm anyway. Boak and Selwood are still the most similar types to him.

Not about how good they are. Hobbs plays more like Selwood/Boak then he does Parish imo.

Hes taller then Parish so should end up a little bigger. The upside on that sort of player is Selwood or Boak.

Its possible to watch the game and also think the stats accurately reflect the players performance.

You mean to be a handball option for his team mates? Not sure how this is a criticism.

In the centre of the ground at stoppages?

Do you think 16th for goal assists is a bad thing???

Elite disposal and kicking efficiency, above average for score involvements, goal assists and score launches.

Yes Heeney was why I said almost.

Thats true for almost every player in the top 10. If you look at shots at goal Lewis is outside the top 5. Its his accuracy thats keeping him close.

Another good game for Macrae, lots of long effective kicks inside 50, 4 score assists.

Y My favourite is Hipwood 🤣

Not sure what the relevance of Mitchell being 19th is. I'll repeat my question. Who would be your top 18 of the 2021 season?

Hes had 10 or more CBAs in 3 out of 4 games.

The coaches rated him top 18 in the comp or better for the last 4 years, are they overrating him too? Who would be your top 18 of the 2021 season?

So the coaches might think he was the 4th best dogs player the other day, is that supposed to be a bad thing?

Both coaches vote for 5 players. A player could be both coaches 6th choice and he would still get 0 votes. It doesnt prove that at all. They can be meaningful and Macrae can be an impactful player without being in the top 5 on the ground in an individual game.

They didnt rate him in the best 5 players on the ground in a loss.

He had the most contested possessions and clearances on the ground, the most tackles for the dogs, a goal and equal second for score involvements.

What is a gun to you? Top 50? Top 20? Top 10? Earlier in the thread you have said things like Which is clearly not true, you only need to watch his most recent game to see that so it seems like you are underrating him.

Whats up with Steele?