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Simple. Jeff out.

Yeah, I think so. Amazing how much his look changed over the course of his career.

Ah ok. Had it as 17 based on this: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-22/hawks-send-buddy-pick-to-saints. Obviously, it changed. Good to see that both those picks gave us players who played games this year: Hartung and Ceglar! Thanks for the prompt response

Had a discussion with a mate after the GF and we were trying to trace back what Hawthorn actually got for Buddy. We worked out that Hawthorn got pick 19 and on-traded that pic and Savage to St Kilda for pick 17 and McEvoy... but what then happened to pick 17 'coz Freo took that pic? If anyone...

1. Matthews 2. Crawford 3. Hodge 4. Arthur All champions (one the best ever), all captains, all premiers. As far as cult status goes: 1. Jarman 2. Condon 3. T. Hall. Sleepiest hawk: 1. J Hay.

If Garlett takes off, Cyril will have problems. Simple as that.

Anyone have Smith's actual time from the 2km by chance?

Hi y'all, Have read the rules. cant find anything. Once teams are eliminated from the finals in the SC draft league, are their players up for grabs? Thx

Scored tickets in the MCC ballot and now don't wanna go? I'll take them off your hands --> I'm looking for two so I don't have to do the queue thing on Friday night. Will gladly reimburse you plus a little extra to make the transfer. send me a private message. thanks

Thanks for the responses. Hoping and praying for Friday night!

Man, I've got this wedding and... oh, you know the story. Looked everywhere for finals dates but couldnt find anything concrete for the 1st and 2nd qualifying finals. Anyone know? Thanks

Had tickets for tonight. Sold now. For future ref, is there a set place on here for ticket sales? Thanks

Hutchy's gear found:

So true. Gotta separate legitimate predictions from media spin.

MV is the most successful club of the first 6 years in the A-league, so explain to those of us who also follow soccer, ('coz you clearly don't), how the mighty victory is sinking? *gets popcorn*

Seems to be a lot of this going on. I love when journos start quoting Facebook and comments sections on YouTube to show the vox populi.

I'm pretty sure Lord saw out his full 3-yr term. Anyway, who do you wanna see as pres, Zack?

Sorry bro, but Geoff Lord wasn't president during the merger; Brian Coleman was. Also, club CEO at the time, and man most responsible for the merger vote, was Peter Hudson, though his untouchable status as a player means he's somehow gone missing from most "merger memories" :)

"There has been speculation, too, about ex-Melbourne Victory chairman and former Hawks president Geoff Lord becoming a candidate for the presidency for a second period, but sources say Lord would only consider it if he was invited." So invite him, lol. He did a bang-up job for MV.

What's happened to Mitch Banner? I really thought Banner was gonna get plenty of game time this year but it just hasn't happened. Does anyone have an inside word on his chances of playing more games?

Clarko's left JKT languishing with Box Hill again. I find this confusing as my impression of KJKT was that he started the season very well. He was solid for his first ever game against Melbourne in round one, then excellet against north in round 5. His effort against Essendon in Roud 6 was...

I'd have to say I disagree entirely with the OP. 2009 has been such a disaster that the hawks have actually done damage to 2010. Their confidence is shot; their game plan (coz they only have one) is known and beaten by most other sides now; they've lost a massive chunk of the premiership side...

Where's Beau Muston? So much for "Beau Muston Sponsorship" lol

You must be joking if you think Renouf is some kind of supreme athlete. He isnt. While he might be quicker than Campbell and Taylor - and this isnt saying anything - Renouf still gives away a horribly high number of free kicks in the middle of the ground, fails to win the football and...

It's absolutely true that Williams and Dew dont get enough of the footy. Dew's career stats are pretty average and he certainly doesnt do enough. As for Williams, the last few weeks, he's been running harder but he's desperately out of touch. It didnt help that he was set to mark inside 50...

Hawks Time is right. It would be ridiculous for Sewell to play anything but a straight bat at any media questions - knowing full well that any comment will be magnified tenfold, the slightest air of negativity would be blown up to hysterial proportions by the "experts" at SEN. Besides...

The guy is a quality-purist. He's double passed with a high quality codec, which is why the file is so large. If you download this, you'll probably need VLC player to watch it. It's available for free. Just google 'VLC player'

Good win by the hawks after two down-on-form weeks. You have to remember that the hawks still have not put their best 22 together for one game this year. Be it through injury or through suspension, the Hawks have always had some players missing. That kind of variability can wreak havok on sides...

He'd just read this thread. LOLOLOL Walls makes one comment about the Hawks' hardness and fans on this site start carrying on like he's been riding us all season. He hasn't. Try not to be so sensitive. There are plenty of soft players in our side - AHEM Young, AHEM Williams, AHEM Rioli...