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Terry Wallace also said Richmond had a better list when he 'chose' them over us back in 2004 to coach. I never pay much attention to anything the 'list manager' thinks. HE throws out every possible scenario in trade week so that he can claim he's right, never mind the 100's he gets wrong, May...

I hope so as North are the gift that just keeps giving (for us)

Pure speculation. If not, I'll be pissed if we let another good player go for sweet FA. "Adelaide currently holds Picks 10, 16, 53, 72 and 90." So that means pick 72 or 90. Stuff that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even at his injured form this year...

Listening to a few Carlton fan ringing talkback asking why the hell they helped us out with that 2nd rounder. It's simple. Essendope had the number 1 pick in both drafts and cap space. They had said they were prepared to draft JOM. What do Hawthorn and Carlton share? A HATRED of Essendope...

It's an omen...

Welcome Jaeger. The stress got so bad I didn't even go in just to follow the trade deadline. And after all the crap that Tony C**kmuncha and GC pulled essentially doing a deal with us that they could have done on day one, I hope they draft this year the same way they drafted in their first year.

It was 1982 and it was a stripper called Helen Demico. Would post a pic but would cop a ban. Let's just say if she was voting for a Republican candidate in recent US Primary's, it wouldn't have been for Trump, it would've been for Bush...

What if JOM falls through, woould it be the worst result if we ended up using pick 10 in the draft? Supposedly a strong draft? And if anyone calls out GWS or GC on their academy picks, we could move up (in a sense, with them having to bid higher for them). I no longer have any idea what's...

Agreed, though I really like Picken. Not as a 'Grand Prize' and he wouldn't leave either

If we are getting nothing in return and cap space isn't an issue now, we may as well hold onto him for next year, and let him leave as a free agent next year. Would still probably get a better compo pick, 3rd round, then the supposed 'late round pick' that Melbourne are offering. Either way I...

See I said that to a mate and he raised a valid point that I shouldn't assume we'd have 4 in a row as he argued the pain of losing 2012 which we should've won is what spurred us to 3 in a row. Who knows? If we kick straight and take our chances that game, then Kennedy being there is irrelevant...

Yeah, and we got Stratten and Suckling from those deals. Not trying to argue with you on it as it's not invalid what you're saying but we moved on pretty ok post Kennedy and will again.

As an NBA fan, a long suffering Knicks fan (talk about bad contracts, hello Allen Houston??), this reply is spot on. Nearly every Laker fan in LA (not watching 1 game a month from afar) will tell you they wish that deal never happened. Stopped them going after a heap of free agents for 2 years...

Both clubs entered the VFL/AFL in 1925. They have 4 Premierships, we have 13. So no, 'We are not North Melbourne'

Yep, Kennedy has won one premiership and lost 2 GF's, McGlynn won none. Meanwhile we won 3 in a row. I'd say it turned out pretty ok for us, not so much for them. But I, like you, am shattered about Sammy, on the same page there.

Good point. But that does mean O'Meara could nominate a single year contract for $1M+ (to put everyone off and with the Sammy $600K now freed up) and then re-sign midyear for another 2 at much, much less. That would work, wouldn't it? I don't know, hard to think straight today...

I'm ok that this happened, but not wrapt about it. It's the rebuild come early. But I completely agree with you in regards to re-signing the vets that we did. Of the 4 that we re-signed this year, Sammy would've been the last I would've moved on, by a country mile. Could've even copped Lewis...

Yes they will, It will be a North Heidelberg jumper.

Now F**K off to your own board, the thread is labelled "No Opposition Supporters", and take Daniel Wells, Drew Petrie, Nick Del Santo and Dud Firrito and years of mediocrity with you. P/S David Hale And Josh Gibson say "Hi" and thanks for the Premiership medals.

I'd have to say the way I felt when I first heard the news is best summed up in the chorus of this song (as is the anger between some posters in this thread with each other) NSFW and I only condone the chorus btw! ;)

One thing I'd like to add is that people need to be a bit more real when posting "This will cost as a chance at the 2017 Flag". Next season we're another year older, Bulldogs are stronger (after all the injuries are back), GWS another year wiser, etc, etc. Maybe we could challenge, maybe not...

Yep, PSD. Big risk, but a calculated one. They'd have to have an educated guess on who had enough cap space to fit in a front ended $1M+ contract. Just trying to make sense of today.

The more I think about it and the more I read about GC digging in their heels on this, the more I think this is about getting O'Meara. Maybe it's wishful thinking (and meant for the 'Hypothetical' thread), but assuming we had our cap all worked out to get Tom, Vickery and JOM. They've planned...

Mate, I'm as shattered as you are, and you are absolutely entitled to vent, I know I have posted at least 4 times that I'm shattered. I just have to say I strongly disagree with your references to Management stuffing up the cap and trying to cover it up. 1) Sam himself this was first brought...

Which That means Sydney can't afford him with Buddy and Tippett locked in still. At last, a happy thought for the day...

Well with T Mitchell coming for our first pick (14) and swap of later picks now confirmed by Graeme Wright, not sure what hypotheticals we can come up with for JOM as no doubt that was a solid bargaining chip for that deal (most likely as part of a 3 way trade as GC said all along they want...

I agree. I'd rather get a player in return that's a known quantity, then pot luck in a pick from 30 - 50. Yes, Sam was pick 36, and we've had some good fortune in that range, but it's so hit and miss. Hell, even top 20 can be hit and miss.

Yeah, I get that, like cap space etc. Just still Shattered...

...a deal will happen, just like JOM and T Mitchell will happen, but I'm clinging to this sliver of hope, because I'll spew if we get 3 fifths of F**k all for him. Both Sam and Club have stated that they are 'ok' if it doesn't happen and he plays at Hawthorn next. All sides we be quick to roll...