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I assume without telling other clubs who those players are ;)

Question for the general audience - how does pick trading work on draft night, can it happen any time? Or is it board game rules where only on your pick?

13+15(+37?) for one of St Kilda's picks (+47?) looks within striking range...

Excuse me sir, this room is owned by rabid North and Richmond fans. The genuine draft commentary died here years ago.

So you're talking Roughead in '04 and Ellis in '05?

Carlton and Melbourne sure, but how have Richmond, Collingwood, Hawthorn and West Coast abused the system?

Agree at Ashcroft being a rort

Okay, let's talk quality of priority picks. North have been given three end of first round picks in 2023/2024 alone. Richmond was given one end of first round pick in 2017, who was a good selection, but in quality of assistance, it's not comparable. Ignoring the fact he only played in one of...

Yeah of course, he's talking within the context of priority picks though, where you have quite the majority

Mate you conveniently haven't responded to my question, how else did Richmond benefit from priority picks outside Rance? Are you referring to the 2004 draft? Who are you referring to?

Sides need more than what Richmond currently have...

No comment on North's draft hand. Only here to make a comment on Richmond's priority pick history. From my understanding, it is a stretch to say Richmond's flags were built on priority picks. Our draft hands were more impacted by Carlton and Melbourne's priority picks. Only priority pick I can...

Thank you for describing bigfooty

Tauru wasn't selected in the initial Vic Country squad, Lalor has much more runs on the board.

thank you. Still picking up more uncertainty than usual in his commentary though

Twomey isn't even going with a phantom draft this year, wow. I assume that's what this mornings publication takes place of

Yes thank you for correcting - 3 clubs holding 8 of the first 11. Looking through those examples, 2017 is the dynamic that's most reflective of this year with freo and carlton having multiple picks split and saints with 7/8 again. Twomey was quite off with his phantom that year (6/10, 7/20)...

2010 and 2011 were effectively monopolies of GC/GWS picks, little risk of things leaking. 2012 GWS had the first three picks, and the dogs two picks were together, you only had one Melbourne pick in between. This year we have had no certainty beyond a seeming consensus on Lalor at pick one...

Three clubs hold the top 11 picks, all them are reliant on each other not finding out who they want. When have we had that dynamic before to this extent? (Genuine question) Add a lack of a clear top 6 in addition to that, and you have a recipe for silence. The only Intel that's getting out...

They're both BS this year. Twomey will be lucky to get six of the top ten right

you're a self aware one, that's better than most

And clubs aren't saying much this year. Even if there are no trades, I think he will be not as accurate as other years

Yeah didn't really seem like a problem hey

'Genuinely dual sided kick' is a laugh, even in his peak years he would actively avoid kicking on his left, even if it meant it was a harder kick.

100%, he will be a fair way off this year

7 ND + 1 rookie?

It's going to be amazing to see the shock when Richmond don't pick Lalor and North don't pick Tauru

Okay so it's more a situation of the AFL outsourcing what it should be doing to clubs?

Why do you think I'm saying you're wrong? I'm not saying he won't succeed, I'm saying he's not 100% a successful pick without consecutive full seasons. If you quote me in a couple of years to gloat, I'll be happy for Riley, whilst also still being confused why I'm the enemy here.

Of course not, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt there. He played seven games in a season. A successful key forward plays more than seven games. He's only gotten through one full season. A lot of the time it isn't a question of talent, but whether or not they can stay on the park.