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Question for the general audience - how does pick trading work on draft night, can it happen any time? Or is it board game rules where only on your pick?
Anytime, but most clubs have agreements to only pull the trigger on deals if certain players are still on the board.
 
Port fans will flip out if that trade is done.

Na I don’t mind it from Port they are one team that needs a few. 13 or 16 it doesn’t make a lot of difference
 
Anytime, but most clubs have agreements to only pull the trigger on deals if certain players are still on the board.
I would assume there would be some preliminary talks before the draft night, especially for the high end picks?

For example if North want to trade out Pick 2, they would know before draft night what that deal is likely to be and may have even unofficially accepted it?
 
I'm certainly not saying there's anything wrong with doing it, just think Port fans won't be happy.

Think they should be- getting two first rounders in rather than 1, possibly still get Berry at 16
 
No sooking at all, it seems you fail to understand that Pre-2012 assistance picks were automatic, based on games won over a 2 year period. Since 2012 clubs have had to request (beg for) assistance.
Since 2012, just 10 assistance picks have been granted and half (5) of those were gifted in the 2022 - 2024 drafts to the NM Beggaroos.
I would be highly embarrassed if WCE went begging for assistance.

Simple facts are that the AFL for years have propped up NM financially, now they're propping them up on field too 🤣

Right so it was ok to lay down and beg by not winning games but trying to win games and asking for help is different??

If you think the late junk picks we got was anything like the pick you got for Judd then you're having a laugh.

If financial helps is embarrassing - give your club a call and ask them to hand back the 11 million dollars the AFL gave them last year.
 
I would assume there would be some preliminary talks before the draft night, especially for the high end picks?

For example if North want to trade out Pick 2, they would know before draft night what that deal is likely to be and may have even unofficially accepted it?
Yes, but then clubs may even better those deals while the draft is live and they get itchy feet.
 

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I agree, but I'm talking angry Port fans. Reason doesn't come into it.

Be fair they have to follow a team with Hinkley coaching
 
Anderson & 38, 40 you mean?
Bizarre that someone would criticise the Anderson trade. It was linked to the Bastinac trade and when combined we absolutely killed it.

Bastinac, 15, 55, F3 for Jed, 17, 26. Especially when we used 17 on McKay, who got turned into pick 3, and Hawthorn used 15 on Ryan Burton, who became steak knives.
 
Bizarre that someone would criticise the Anderson trade. It was linked to the Bastinac trade and when combined we absolutely killed it.

Bastinac, 15, 55, F3 for Jed, 17, 26. Especially when we used 17 on McKay, who got turned into pick 3, and Hawthorn used 15 on Ryan Burton, who became steak knives.

Every club has had a few bad ones you aren’t alone. The Stephens one last year wasn’t great either. Really like the two you did this year though love the Daniel trade
 
He lives in the most isolated city on the planet. Literally 4 hours by plane from nowhere. He has his little football team, the beach, chicken treat and not much else. Even if his rich, he lives in Perth aka as 4 hours from nowhere. Melbourne is a backward place, Perth is literally a beach full of sharks. but it's closish to wave rock and margaret river so not all is lost.

Careful, your club is trying to move here
 
Every club has had a few bad ones you aren’t alone. The Stephens one last year wasn’t great either. Really like the two you did this year though love the Daniel trade
Personally I hate the Daniel trade. Not the player, he'll be useful, but WB didn't want him and we should have paid in future picks or walked. Losing our second rounder has compromised our draft hand and trading position.

I think that the Stephens trade in itself was fine, we gave up stuff all. The issue is the length of contract we offered. And I don't really understand how we identified Dyl as a player of any value.
 
Personally I hate the Daniel trade. Not the player, he'll be useful, but WB didn't want him and we should have paid in future picks or walked. Losing our second rounder has compromised our draft hand and trading position.

I think that the Stephens trade in itself was fine, we gave up stuff all. The issue is the length of contract we offered. And I don't really understand how we identified Dyl as a player of any value.

Sometimes you accept fraction overs to get a guy in, is Daniels the right one who knows but he’ll allow McKercher to move further into the middle.

Stephens was a shocking draft choice from us unfortunately just add it to our horrid first round selections
 
I don’t need to do jack sh!t when you post dribble like this. :rolleyes:
are you saying it's dribble that NM have been propped up financially by the AFL for years? Maybe this will open your eyes. It's a couple of years out of date but nothing has changed. Take particular note of the loss you would have incurred from 2017 - 2020 without the AFL's "variable" (prop-up) funding. Do you really think you could stand on your own 2 feet?
At least you can take some solace from the fact you aren't the worst Melbourne based club
 
Right so it was ok to lay down and beg by not winning games but trying to win games and asking for help is different??

If you think the late junk picks we got was anything like the pick you got for Judd then you're having a laugh.

If financial helps is embarrassing - give your club a call and ask them to hand back the 11 million dollars the AFL gave them last year.
I don't believe assistance picks should ever be given as it just bails out clubs for poor list management decisions. My motto is you f$%k it up, you fix it.
Yes clubs certainly did tank which was the precise reason they changed the rules in 2012.
Fact remains, to get assistance picks now you have to beg for them, which is precisely what NM did. I'm glad the WCE didn't stoop to that level!
 

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