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Acka and Black did.

The only thing that worries me is that Young has had an interrupted pre season so far. It's all fine, even teams with good injury runs still have at least one. But I won't expect him to improve on last season initially.

It can never be said enough: everyone looks better in purple

Welcome Sparkle. Hope to see you get the chance to light up Optus.

Darcy's surgery and recovery must have gone so well that we've let Knobel walk for nothing! The Darcy/Jackson supremacy is finally upon us!

2 big talents with well-defined weaknesses. If they mitigate those weaknesses, watch out.

He's got enough time on his side though that he probably gets one more crack at the flag with Eagles

Usually in Tasmania

That's amateur positivity levels, we're going undefeated.

The thought of Simpson carrying the ball at top speed and delivering to a one-out Treacy or Shai. I'll need to invest in kleenex

If players peaked at 25 then the Geelong and Collingwood premiership teams from the past 3 years would never have existed.

Why do you want to go backwards next year?

So ****ing excited. We paid a premium, but he's going to make Optus Stadium his own. Bring on 2025

And if it's just 10?

SO what are you holding out for now?

Given the trades gone through today, pick 10 or pick 11 by itself should be plenty.

Chased Barrass all year, promised him the money, and couldn't even front up with their first round pick. Hawthorn the new Dodoro.

Nice try, but I don't remember Bell every targeting another team's in contract full back only to chuck a fit and pull out during trade week. Real ugly areas around this one now.

Hawks not covering themselves in glory here.

Despite the posturing on here, I actually thought this deal would have been done by now.

The derby was a week ago son, away with you now.

Deathride must continue though.

Warner probably the better player but Bolton fills an area that we are significantly deficient in.

Weird that Bolton managed to win a second one. Everyone knows that all desire for success disappears after the first.

Winning VFL BnF gets you selected in the mid-season draft or as a delisted free agent. Winning VFL MOTY/GOTY adds nothing to a trade.

I'll let you know at the end of next season.

No no, Tiger_of_old is right. Every premiership team should delist all their players and start again immediately. No one ever wants to win a second premiership.

Ok then why did Richmond go after Tom Lynch then.

2 years but who's counting? We paid our first rounders the previous two years to acquire a 20 year old ruckman and future first round picks. All while trading out established b22 players in their mid to late 20s. At some point the investment in youth has to end.

Absolutely we do.