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No profit? you're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? There was never any doubt about profit, the only question was - just how much?

The call was good enough but the camera work was terrible.

Another race another profit. Pop Rock true odds were 2.80 and TAB offered a massive $9 & 2.8 and just barely missing the win in a photo finish. Meisho Samson was a very unlucky neck away in third place, clear of fourth. Top race that panned out almost perfectly.

Yet another negative, boring, bland, snoozer of a loser post from Angus1. This thread is for winners, not whiners. Keep it topical or don't post here.

Lee is getting the rewards he deserves, pace is still there ask Jayawardene. His average was only so high because he came on with the old ball as first/second change with McGrath and co. That, and Warney/McGrath would clean up the tail and distort Lee's figures. His true average is around 25.

Let's hope those posters took a hint then. Keep it on topic and leave the whinging and personal attacks out of it. It is typical of the beaten brigade, when you're at the top everyone's a critic.

What a super Spring and plenty of winners. The racing and betting was superb. Last week was the biggest feature race stake, double that of the previous highest and saw Zipping rated a 1.30 chance and paid 2.50 a very easy winner. Previous highest stakes were Marasco rated 1.65 in the Makybe...

Keep on whinging you paranoid bore. No point talking pedigree when you don't even look at half of it. I'm sure nobody clocks up as many hours as you do on here. Easy to see why you don't bet on thoroughbreds.

29 posts in this thread and only a few on topic, par for the course with sethlad & the_fresh/fadge around. Let's keep it on topic from now on.

No problem with that but with keeping a profit/loss... I suppose it's easier to give yourself a big headstart and pay to $2, coming in handy now.

I've only pointed out a fact which you didn't mention. Whether you knew it or not is beside the point. Perhaps you can look it over and tell me what exactly is bothering you? "Wouldn't pay too much attention to that, they usually race on the fastest tracks in the world too."

So what are you doing here apart from stalking someone from thread to thread, you don't add anything but negativity to the forum. Like you said, " I don't give tips" "I don't bet on thoroughbreds" All you ever do is whinge, moan and hijack threads it's sad really. I guess that sums you up.

I'm glad you told me that, I thought you'd disappeared and sent fadge to do your dirt-y work.

This thread isn't about Zipping, regardless you ignore Danehills outstanding staying results and completely disregard the dam side, so talking pedigree with you is a pointless exercise. This thread is about the Japan cup, nobody cares about your petty bickering.

You said it's the fastest run mile and a half, I clarified because they race on the fastest tracks, there is a difference.

If you’re going to start keeping a record on results at least start from scratch not fantasy 9/11. Do you always get $2 on your lines?

Wouldn't pay too much attention to that, they usually race on the fastest tracks in the world too.

He'll start favourite around $2.70 i'd say. His jockey Yutaka Take is lucky to skip a suspension after the Tenno Sho autumn a few weeks back, nearly brought down the field at the top of the straight. Not sure what they have to do to get suspended over there.

Do you have anything to add here or just more whinging, lying, complaining and hijacking threads?

You haven't seen the_fresh have you? lol By the way, did you take any of that $3.10 win & $1.00 to place you saw last Saturday on Zipping?

Pop Rock certainly is one of the Worlds best stayers he's been on fire for 18 months and should start second favourite here. He's the value runner after a cracking fourth last start from a wide barrier. 2006 Japan cup was won by the horse that got done for drugs - Deep Impact, why? Anyway...

Nothing wrong with a brief accurate - to the point opinion/summary of the race and field. It was only a 3000 word article. I doubt many others here follow Japanese Racing. Lighten up, all you ever seem to do is whinge, moan and complain.

Haradasun wasn't injured in the MacKinnon either, just well beaten. Of course they're going to ramp injury he's worth $40mil.

El Segundo only clashed with Zipping once when running side by side, El Segundo was on the outside in the faster part of the slow zone, was 1 length clear but Zipping made up a length and beat him going away. The Cox Plate was decided at the start. It's just one of those irrelevant and...

All of the big group 1's Zipping raced in he drew the widest barrier winners didn't. The times he can reel off at WFA are unrivalled. He's already beaten the A graders this Spring in unsuitable circumstances, El Segundo - 1-1 but 1-0 to Zipping on merit Miss Finland - sent her to the...

This year's Japan Cup is a quality field, it's one of the best staying races on paper this year. Joining the Japanese entrants are Dylan Thomas the Irish trained Danehill - winner of the 2007 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe and the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes who was named Europe's...

Zipping did a mountain of work, at least 10 lengths more than any other runner. Had to from barrier 22. Started his run at the 800, 3 wide back there with Master OReilly who put up the white flag.

Plenty of Danehills have won at 2000+ surely you know that. As has his dam side, isn't that the issue here, pedigree? Feel free to post evidence if you disagree... thought not.

I was delighted to get $2.50, that was the opening quote and some put up 2.70 which was also hit hard.

Absolutely, it's good to hear some informed opinions. Danehills have won the big staying races all over the world. You also got to look at the dam side, non-issue for some..but that's half of it. Zippings dam side also has outstanding staying results across Europe and the world.