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if my maths is correct both coaches gave davies votes but i find it more interesting that one coach gives murphy 2nd best on and the other does not have him in the votes. Judd 5-5 Scotalnd 3-3 Gibbs 4-1 Murphy 4 Davies 2-1 Warnock 2

5 Murphy 4 Gibbs 3 Duigan 2 Judd 1 Ellard ( his work rate without the ball is a lesson for the team )

Yarran did not train with the group last night and it has been very wet up here since i arrived yesterday morning but it is reasonable weather right now. i would expect who ever comes in to play as the Sub(marine).

i absolutely agree that watson needs a tag but i think ellard at 177cm and 78kgs is to small for watson at 190cm and 94kgs, i do think ellard will come in but will be very surprised if he goes to watson especially considering watson has been "resting" forward.

gibbs has polled votes in both rounds from the coaches and it is possible that ratten is yet to have given him a vote. ( a single 2 in round 1 and a single 4 in round 2 )

White for Jamison Armfield for Tuohey or collins the 2nd change i base on, I do not think a guy playing as a sub one week who plays very limited game time will be selected the following week unless there were injuries to the guys selected in front of him, they will go back to the VFL for a...

regarding duigan : i would be amazed and somewhat disappointed if we have drafted a 26 year old without the intention of him playing very regular senior football, i believe the only real reason for bringing him into the system in the first place was that you have a role specifically in mind for him.

When are Simpson, Gibbs and Betts expected on deck for pre season after the international rules series ?

at running the risk of getting carded from my own board for agreeing with collingwood fans i think your comment that ball would not be missed is plain wrong. the last 2 seasons he has played for the team with the best home and away record ( st kilda 2009 , collingwood 2010 ) and was among the...

i like the draw for the club and 18 free to air games is a real bonus without taking time off work for monday, thursday or friday night games i will be able to attend 2 of the first 11 rounds which is truly disappointing.

i know it is good for the club and the sponsors and maximises exposure but that makes 5-6 games i can not go to because i can not take that many fridays off work. Shame for me great for the club and channel 7's ratings.

i do not to this day understand why but i always thought sean charles was going to be a really good get for us, 1 game later he was never to be seen again in navy blue.

Re: General AFL Disussion - Carlton Supporters Only!! Just a quick question relating to the guys involved in the international rules series. Does their involvement in the series mean that they get extra time off before preseason, as is the case with the lions and demons players in shanghai...

My take on it is this, The 7-4 start to last season was an exceptional effort and raised expectations externally but on the other side of the coin the 4-8 finish was well below expectations while this ends up as a pass mark some are focusing on the overall season and some on the back end of the...

I would argue neither have the players in those two cases sometimes parting ways can work for club and player. Griggs apparently deceptive behaviour though puts him in a completely different category to Ball in my opinion though

i like some of those trades and they would be a positive result for us. We need to remember that under AFL rules each club is only allowed to trade 5 players during any exchange period. Grigg Jacobs Walker Thornton are at the very least on the table right now,

If my mail is correct and i believe it is, the richmopnd offer has been on the table for a while, carlton re-visited their offer and presumably improved it, grigg has chosen the richmond offer with the gold coast as a fall back. Swann yesterday said he was hopeful grigg would re-sign this...

wow 16 pages on grigg whose leaving is not totally unexpected (tried to warn you all in the vfl grand final thread) this place is going to go into meltdown if the another player with uncertainties about their role within the team decides to move on also. this type of thing happens when you...

Bradley turned 39 two months after his last game and arguably should have played the following year, that being said given where we are as a group i am inclined to say no to mcdonald as a player but as an assistant coach?.

my mail was he would stay if thompson did not ? which now appears likely.

Are we seriously considering both McKinley and Warnock or are we down to one ?

i will let you get back to the "what is walker worth" debate but can we just take a quick pause and sum up for a minute the list so far as far as possible trades is walker (contracted) but appears likely jacobs (out of contract) but seeking more opportunities, likely grigg (out of...

i was at the grand final yesterday too and i was hearing tambling's name mentioned as part of a deal involving grigg

how about "The time for talk is over"

i think this is the most important part of the entire article that started this thread "I haven't been moved around as much (in the past)," Gibbs said, referring to the defensive role he has assumed this year. we are talking about a young and extremely talented midfielder who was taken as...

from what i have heard the injury he is carrying has been steadily improving and he is close to full fitness but your point on kicks in the back half seems to be the over riding factor, my question is are we causing a lot of the pressure being placed on the back 6 ourselves by not playing him in...

i guess it is a matter of perspective i have been at the last 2 games and share the frustration being vented here but this talk of dropping gibbs and or murphy is beyond me. They have both been very poor the last two weeks ( although all anger seems to be pointed at gibbs ) with our season...

here are the coaches votes North Melbourne v Carlton 10 Lindsay Thomas (NM) 5 Scott Thompson (NM) 4 Bryce Gibbs (Carl) 3 Michael Firrito (NM) 3 Scott McMahon (NM) 1 Ryan Bastinac (NM) although i must say some basic maths says there are 4 votes missing so they may have gone to grima.

o'k i will try and tread carefully here. I am a religious person but i see no real reason for good friday football to not be played The Celebration of the Passion of the Lord takes place in the afternoon, If the AFL would agree to a night time fixture that would allow for the observation of...

the triple m mid season team is http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/news//blog/the-rubs-2010-all-australian-team/20100605-8sa6.html FB:Jarrod HarbrowDustin FletcherHeath Grundy HB:Bryce GibbsBrian LakeLuke Hodge Centre:Brendon GoddardLenny HayesJoel Selwood...