News Grigg requests a Trade

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A lot of people on here saying we are losing experience, something must be wrong at the club etc, but in reality the players that want out haven't been in our best 22 all year and most of them people during the year were happy they were dropped.

Thorton, weak, can't play 1 on 1 and i doubt there was anybody on this board that wanted him in the team

Grigg, very inconsistant and kicked more hospital balls than anybody, not in our best 22

Walker, not in our best 22 this year, but think with a full preseason he would be after his performance in the EF.

Sauce, most would have him behind Kreuz and Warnock, so although he had a few great games, he may have been in the Ants for part of 2011 so hopefully the club gets the best deal for him.

So our team was fairly settled this year, few more games nto our young defenders, our forward line fired later in the year, our mids are fantastic, so if the backs stay solid we will be just fine, minus the 4 names above (but hopefully Walker stays)

Well said BH. I think it's just a bit of a shock that so many players are wanting to leave in one season, but in reality none of them are really our core players. Perhaps in years gone by we would have paid an extra 100k to hold onto fringe players, but now we're not trying as hard to retain players we don't really need.

Turning over the list is a healthy thing. Freeing up more spots means we'll have a greater chance of unearthing quality in the draft or rookie draft that will actually improve our list.

Still hope we keep Walker though. Not too fussed about the other 3 going.

The real test now is optimizing our outcome in trade week.

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True, but if your best 22 is avalable the fill in players like Grigg move back to the Ants, thats just football, but every team has a desired best 22, fringe players, and young inexperienced players.

No loss on Grigg.

Players like Grigg provide competition for spots (only positive) and depth in case of injury. Losing 3 or 4 experienced players in the one season and replacing them with 18 year olds will set us back in the short term.

Not happy about losing all of Jacobs, Thornton and Grigg. And potentially Walker.
 

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Very dissapointed to see Grigg go. He will be a top 100 player in the AFL and is a massive loss to the club.

He was very hard done by at the selection table the last 2 years IMO, and being a high pick Ratts should have given him more of an opportunity.

Still, he is a w***er for leaving and I will boo the sh!t out of him for as long as he plays. :mad:
 
This pissed me off when I heard it on the Footy Show. But it may be a blessing in disguise, do we really want an idiot who isn't willing to earn his spot?

Walker's the same. He puts in shit performances and when he gets dropped he has a sook and wants to be traded but "happy to stay if a deal can't be done"! Really? Well you do have a contract with us so of course you'll stay if a deal can't be done. He's just saying that because if a deal falls through he doesn't want to end up having a full year at the Bullants.

Everyone has had a go at how dissappointed they are at Grigg, but not Walker when they are essentially doing the exact same thing. Problem for Walker is, he's contracted so he's trying to cover his tracks if he doesn't get traded.
 

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This pissed me off when I heard it on the Footy Show. But it may be a blessing in disguise, do we really want an idiot who isn't willing to earn his spot?

Walker's the same. He puts in shit performances and when he gets dropped he has a sook and wants to be traded but "happy to stay if a deal can't be done"! Really? Well you do have a contract with us so of course you'll stay if a deal can't be done. He's just saying that because if a deal falls through he doesn't want to end up having a full year at the Bullants.

Everyone has had a go at how dissappointed they are at Grigg, but not Walker when they are essentially doing the exact same thing. Problem for Walker is, he's contracted so he's trying to cover his tracks if he doesn't get traded.

Difference being Walker wants a spot in the midfield while Grigg wants $$$
 
Players like Grigg provide competition for spots (only positive) and depth in case of injury. Losing 3 or 4 experienced players in the one season and replacing them with 18 year olds will set us back in the short term.

Not happy about losing all of Jacobs, Thornton and Grigg. And potentially Walker.
True, but this is also provides an opportunity.

In a limited draft these players value increases particularly for teams looking for specific needs like Adelaide, Bulldogs, Hawthorn and others. Swann & Ratts now have 4 possible trades to work with and hopefully will trade smart and get the right picks/players to meet our specific needs.

The worst thing would be to lose our uncontracted players (Jacobs and Grigg) in the PSD for nought. Sorry, I know principles are important but do we really want to lose 2 players for no return at all?
 
Difference being Walker wants a spot in the midfield while Grigg wants $$$

Well really? So he is demanding where we play him or he walks pardon the pun. Sorry but if you are contracted to a club you do what they tell you to do on the field.

The club has shown faith in him by contracting him and he still has the decency to ask for a trade because he can't get into the midfield ahead of Judd, Murphy, Simpson, etc? Heck if any Defender is going to be played in the midfield it's going to be Bryce Gibbs.

How does him demanding where he plays and having a sook about not getting his way any less dirty than walking out for money? The coach makes the decisions on where players play not him.

People don't go to work and demand to their boss what job they do because they'll find that they get the arse soon after.
 
Disappointing. Weak. Where is the sacrifice for this great club? Does not realise it is a privelage to wear the navy blue. Has hardly been able to string games together because of injury, and when he does come in it takes him 3 weeks to get going. He's able to finally string half a dozen games together - then asks to be traded. Piss off.

He is a product from what has become our darkest era. Go on, go join B.Fevola, N.Stevens, C.Cloke.. We don't need you.
 
He was very hard done by at the selection table the last 2 years IMO, and being a high pick Ratts should have given him more of an opportunity.

Bullshit.

Where a player is selected in the draft should have no impact on whether or not they get a game.

If they are performing well enough to play senior football, you play them. If they aren't, you don't.

If a player thinks he's in the best 22 at a club, isn't getting a game, and isn't prepared to put in the hard yards to prove his coach wrong, then he doesn't deserve to get a game.

In this game, talent will only take you so far. If you don't have the right mentality, sooner or later that'll catch up with you and it'll smack you in the face.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud club that should not be playing players because they think they deserve to be playing. That's why I was a strong advocate of dropping Gibbs early in 2010, and that's why I now want Grigg shipped off to any club that is willing to give up the most for him.

I like Grigg as a player and I think he has what it takes to be a long term player in the AFL. However, if he doesn't want to be here and work hard for his spot in the team, then he can take the easy option and play for a club holding up the ladder for all I care.

To blame this on Ratten is completely ridiculous. He is not at fault in the slightest.
 
Bullshit.

Where a player is selected in the draft should have no impact on whether or not they get a game.

If they are performing well enough to play senior football, you play them. If they aren't, you don't.

If a player thinks he's in the best 22 at a club, isn't getting a game, and isn't prepared to put in the hard yards to prove his coach wrong, then he doesn't deserve to get a game.

In this game, talent will only take you so far. If you don't have the right mentality, sooner or later that'll catch up with you and it'll smack you in the face.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud club that should not be playing players because they think they deserve to be playing. That's why I was a strong advocate of dropping Gibbs early in 2010, and that's why I now want Grigg shipped off to any club that is willing to give up the most for him.

I like Grigg as a player and I think he has what it takes to be a long term player in the AFL. However, if he doesn't want to be here and work hard for his spot in the team, then he can take the easy option and play for a club holding up the ladder for all I care.

To blame this on Ratten is completely ridiculous. He is not at fault in the slightest.

:thumbsu: This
 
Grigg would want a midfield spot too.

The dollars are just the clincher.

Might even struggle to be a walk up start with Martin, Cotchin, Jackson, Edwards, Deledio, Foley, Tuck, Morton, Connors, Collins and possibly even Tambling ahead of him.

Good luck at that team of world beaters.

Gold Coast will have a better midfield than Richmond, so he's no walk up start there either.

It mightn't be Walker wanting to be traded, but that the club and Walker might not see eye to eye as to him being in our best 22.

Or they might think that a fresh start is best for both parties.

Walker has shown more than Grigg this year and in his career.

Has x factor.

In all honesty, Carlton probably can't play Walker, Carrazzo, Robinson, Joseph, Hadley and Grigg in the 22.

They're not the best kicks.

Grigg's miss from the goal square was one of the worst kicks I've seen in the last eight seasons.

Every cloud has a silver lining if we can use this opportunity to recruit players who are better kicks.

And want to play with Carlton.

This isn't a disaster given we've made the finals without Grigg and Walker playing a huge part in 2009 and 2010.
 
Bullshit.

Where a player is selected in the draft should have no impact on whether or not they get a game.

If they are performing well enough to play senior football, you play them. If they aren't, you don't.

If a player thinks he's in the best 22 at a club, isn't getting a game, and isn't prepared to put in the hard yards to prove his coach wrong, then he doesn't deserve to get a game.

In this game, talent will only take you so far. If you don't have the right mentality, sooner or later that'll catch up with you and it'll smack you in the face.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud club that should not be playing players because they think they deserve to be playing. That's why I was a strong advocate of dropping Gibbs early in 2010, and that's why I now want Grigg shipped off to any club that is willing to give up the most for him.

I like Grigg as a player and I think he has what it takes to be a long term player in the AFL. However, if he doesn't want to be here and work hard for his spot in the team, then he can take the easy option and play for a club holding up the ladder for all I care.

To blame this on Ratten is completely ridiculous. He is not at fault in the slightest.


Spot on J :thumbsu:

I was upset when I found out last night but have since accepted the fact that he has requested to be traded for his own selfish reasons.

From a couple of the posts that I have read, it appears that he is going for the $$$$$$$$ instead of loyalty & committment to the CFC.

If he was at the B&F Tuesday night, he obviously took no notice of Stick's opening & closing statements in his speech ..........

“Together we must grow this club and we cannot afford to have any passengers - on or off the field,” Kernahan said to the 1,400 Carlton people in attendance at the 2010 John Nicholls Medal.

“The Carlton Football Club is about success and for this club to enjoy a successful future we all have an important role to play, we cannot afford to have any passengers - on or off the field,”

So Grigga don't slam the door on the way out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










And he wants to be traded to Richmond
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People don't go to work and demand to their boss what job they do because they'll find that they get the arse soon after.

Have you ever had a job??

People do this. All the time. I've done just that several times in my career. And those times when the boss said 'no', there are two choices: lump it or leave. Grigg's taking the second option and good for him.

He hasn't managed 50 games over 5 years at Carlton due to injury or form. For his career a new scene is probably what he needs, because if he stays here and nothing changes he'll be delisted in two years anyway with very little to show from a 7 year AFL career.
 
wow 16 pages on grigg whose leaving is not totally unexpected (tried to warn you all in the vfl grand final thread) this place is going to go into meltdown if the another player with uncertainties about their role within the team decides to move on also.

this type of thing happens when you are emerging as a competitive force again, those on the fringe who have been getting games find it hard to adjust to the changing landscape.
 
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