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Dean was a Saints supporter - may not help our cause. That said, they did delist him. Premiership player - hopefully that has consecrated him as a Navy Blue man for life.

GWS gave $6 million for a 2nd year, unproven midfielder ..........

Not sure it's been brought up, but if the reason Dawes will go is due to salary cap constraints, then Pies would only want draft pick(s), as they couldn't pay a comparable player anyway. Melbourne offer of about Pick 12 is probably about right. Blues would battle to trade into a position to...

Wellingham 66 career games - avg disposals - 17.9 per game - 1 game of 30+. Bastinac 27 career games - avg disposals - 18.8 per game - 0 game of 30 + possessions. Pretty similar really

As you allude, Carlton wouldn't trade him. But for the sake of the exercise, if Carlton traded Garlett, a 21yo rising AA goal kicking small forward to Melbourne, I struggle to see how the likes of: Frawley, Garland plus a pick, or Trengove weren't on the shopping list. Frawley is probably...

Young talls have a massive advantage as they are so slow to develop. That in mind, Zac Smith is miles in front. He'll win easily.

Josh Toy was as highly rated as David Swallow. Was clear best of 12 17yos taken and would have pushed Swallow for #1 had it been an open draft. Any club would have him and these dud trades offered up are laughable. If Essendon want Toy, they'd be saying good bye to one of Pears or Ryder...

Comprehension Kid, massive difference between 'talent' and 'output'. We're talking trading and I'm saying I would sooner keep the kids as they will ultimately be better than where Stanton is now. If the question is "...Who would you have line up tomorrow for greatest effect?..." the answer...

The question was who on North's list was 'more talented' than Stanton, that's my list. Comprehension not your strong point at school I'm guessing..... Modern day football asks for players to hurt oppositions by footskills. Brent Stanton will never be highly regarded in this category...

I'd take the following ahead of Stanton: Cunnington; Wells; Wright; Ziebell; Atley; Hansen; McIntosh;

Note that I am a Carlton supporter, but gee the job they've done with Yarran is exceptional. When you listen to his CFCTV interview, he is so confident and so much more polished. To see where he has come from to now, it really is a success story for all involved with him from 14yo and beyond...

Crow-Mo, he's your player now. No longer a need to put the skids on his reputation. You got him for a song. Are you making excuses for him already...??

I don't mind him. He is not a gorilla, but has decent size. Is not a Melbourne boy at all. He is from Bega. His nickname is Cheese. Good kick - perhaps just a tall Thornton. Had we moved T-Bird on, I'd be all over him.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/contrasting-youngsters-hope-they-caught-the-eye-of-afl-scouts-20100615-ydaj.html Article on Dan Noonan. Had played earlier as a forward in u19s too, kicking a few big bags. Not the worst suggestion ever heard. Late Pick, rookie?

Re: Tom Notte Class A Spud. Slow & skinny. Drafted at Pick 20. Has not played a game in 3 years. Apparently had a family member on the board. Was lucky to survive as long as he did. I suggest all 17 clubs look elsewhere.

Only issue is that Jacobs would more likely sign on at Carlton rather than go to Richmond. Sam has sought to head home, Richmond is not home. It does represent some opportunity, but Vickery was Pick #8 and they have employed Brendan Lade to develop him. If I were Big Sauce, I wouldn't be...

Well you give us the stat then. Justify your point.

You're not serious are you? Personally I'd give Scott Clayton sufficient kudos & respect to assume that he is sufficiently capable to not leave a player with a December 1992 to April 1993 birthdate that is good enough to be, say, a Top 30 pick in the draft pool. He's taken 12 players from...

OK. Shane Mumford Born: 05-Jul-1986 (Debut:21y 295d Last:24y 68d) 200 cm 102 kg Traded for Pick 28 when aged 23. Played 21 games averaged 9 disposals, 2 marks, 15 hit-outs, 4 tackles. Robert Warnock Born: 19-Jan-1987 (Debut:20y 107d Last:23y 229d) 206 cm 96 kg Traded with Pick 69...

Cos God knows you hate the slightest modicum of perspective on the forum.....

Sam Jacobs Born: 10-Apr-1988 (Debut:20y 350d Last:22y 148d) 200 cm 100 kg Darren Jolly Born: 06-Nov-1981 (Debut:19y 152d Last:28y 330d) 200 cm 105 kg Jolly picked up as a 28yo. When he was 22yo like Jacobs, he played 19 games and averaged 15 hit-outs. Jacobs this year played 13...

You clearly have only one item on your insults list. Dumb toad is hardly inspiring stuff. Warnock & Pick 69 was traded for Picks 24, 56 & 72 two years ago. Both Warnock & Jacobs at similar stages of promising careers when sought by a new club. Only difference is GC17 have already taken...

Must be true then

And yet Adelaide FC want to offer the same 17 game player $1 million over 3 years...?? I guess they must be ".. simply dumb toads.." too...?? If he's worth the coin, he's worth the pick. Trade him to Port for their 1st Pick

Warnock trade included pick 24 in the 2008 'SuperDraft'. I guess I am trying to 'gloss it up a bit', but also remember that there is only 9 months of 'new talent' in this year's draft, as GC17 have already taken the best 17yos last year from Jan 1 to Apr 30. Accordingly, with only 3/4s of...

Keep Walker. He still has upside. Played great in Elimination Final. Flew for marks, was good on the lead, good at ground level. Should have had a few extra free kicks and shots on goal for being held/impeded by Mattner. Kicked 3, should've kicked 5. Another pre-season and increased...

Adam Kingsley from Port Adelaide. Has been an assistant at Port for 4 years. Clarkson, Bailey, Hardwick & Primus all now head coaches from under Mark Williams regime. Brenton Sanderson annointed next coach at Geelong. Must be doing something right. Melbourne boy. Ask the question.

Where's Ben Griffiths??

Amazing how much in awe of Carlton's original ad that the Bombers management are to continue with the ".. I want to be like Carlton.." advertisements. Works for me. Good win.

I'd reverse the M. McGuane, S. O'Reilly, M. Mansfield, S. Charles, A. Eccles trades. Keep the players and draft picks we had and make better decisions. Draft Shaun Burgoyne & Daniel Kerr instead of Livingston & Sporn.