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He’s the least of our problems
On overall output, yeah, probably. On expectation vs. production, he's a major letdown.He’s the least of our problems
He is but also isn't.He’s the least of our problems
would love to know if hes hurting
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He's not a problem as a small defender when he sticks to his job. Probably a best 22 back pocket in most AFL sides i think.
He tries to do too much as VC though and i dont think he should be VC.
He is overpaid, and we gave him too many years on his latest contract.
But i think taking the VC off him could humble him somewhat and take some pressure off and just let him concentrate on being a small defender.
Not sure whether Scott would do that though or whether its a player voted thing. Zach clear captain but the VC choice is less obvious due to botched list management the last 10 years. McGrath has got it almost by default, rather than displaying any natural leadership qualities
He's a perfect club man off field as you say, organises the training, stays out of trouble, works fairly hard. But i think you've nailed it where on game day when there's pressure on, he's not a natural game day leader that can turn things around through sheer will, skill and ability. The weight of VC/LG removed could definitely have a positive impact on his game, even if his ego is a little bruised initially.Agree, seems to be trying to do too much which creates issues.
I'd take him out of the leadership group entirely and just let him focus on playing for a bit. Maybe he'll come back in down the track, maybe not.
Is your typical private school prefect kind of leader; speaks well, keeps out of trouble, and I'm sure he's a professional in his training and preparation. But is that the same kind of person that thrives on-field with expectations of leadership? Can he drive the group on game-day when things aren't going their way?
Merrett has gone up a level with the weight of leadership on him, I'm not sure it's had the same impact on McGrath's game.
There wouldn’t be much value to opposition clubs. He’s not making the 22 of a competing team, a rebuilding team isn’t going to give any draft value up for a 27 year old (27 next year).Trade him
It also has to do with development, but McCluggage was expected to be the number one pick in the months leading up to the draft in 2016. The club made the decision to go with McGrath instead.how he became the #1 pick still amazes me to this day
I think he would be ok in a decent backline group. The fact he needs to be the number 1 or 2 banana in that group exposes his flaws and becomes the pinup boy for all our problems..
Is he really no worse than Jed Bews? what about Blake Hardwick? Brandon Starcevich is a good small defender but McGrath could be at that level.
What I am getting at is he is being asked to do more than he can deliver. Beef up the others in the back 6 and he could improve as well
Because the media actually watch the totality of things, unlike so many on here.How does the media see him so different?
He was given such a let off by commentators all night.
He’s the leader in that backline and he’s not up to it, take the VC off him.
Yes they are. Starcevich doesn't have to be the main driver out of defence in his team as well. Brisbane have McKenna, Zorko and Wilmot to do that.Starcevich is arguably THE form small defender in the competition. They aren't even in the same galaxy.
Because the media actually watch the totality of things, unlike so many on here.
He leads. He defends first and is the best help defender we have. He gives options running out of defence when nobody else does. People on here see the last part followed by a turnover and bitch and moan about it. He's trying to be a lockdown small and driver out of defence at the same time which doesn't work.
Yes they are. Starcevich doesn't have to be the main driver out of defence in his team as well. Brisbane have McKenna, Zorko and Wilmot to do that.
Actually watch defence before you talk about shit like this.
Because the media actually watch the totality of things, unlike so many on here.
He leads. He defends first and is the best help defender we have. He gives options running out of defence when nobody else does. People on here see the last part followed by a turnover and bitch and moan about it. He's trying to be a lockdown small and driver out of defence at the same time which doesn't work.
Yes they are. Starcevich doesn't have to be the main driver out of defence in his team as well. Brisbane have McKenna, Zorko and Wilmot to do that.
Actually watch defence before you talk about shit like this.
Where did I say that was the reason?I watch defence, in fact that's the main thing I focused on today at the ground. McGrath being "lockdown" is the biggest con in football and I think you need to actually watch defence if you think he's anywhere near as good as Starcevich. Being drafted #1 in 2016 doesn't make him a good player.
No, I'm not. Starcevich is a gun. But as I've explained above, he has it much easier with guys like McKenna, Zorko and Wilmot driving it out of the back line.You’re very, very wrong here. Starcevich is 10x better than McGrath, it’s not anywhere near close
How good, number 1 draft pick could be ok if everyone does the workI think he would be ok in a decent backline group. The fact he needs to be the number 1 or 2 banana in that group exposes his flaws and becomes the pinup boy for all our problems..
Is he really no worse than Jed Bews? what about Blake Hardwick? Brandon Starcevich is a good small defender but McGrath could be at that level.
What I am getting at is he is being asked to do more than he can deliver. Beef up the others in the back 6 and he could improve as well