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I was suggesting he could be one of, if not the best small defender in the comp if others rise around himHow good, number 1 draft pick could be ok if everyone does the work
I was his biggest backer early in the year but he has disappointed me more than any other player as we’ve fallen away. When Hep left the defence we needed a general with tactical nous and clear direction. He’s failed on that significantly and it’s cost us in close games and when momentum catches us out in transition. He’s capable as a small defender but I don’t think he’s the leader we hoped he’d be.I think people need to ease up on the criticisms, this is one of our leaders, when Zac retires he will be our captain, he is THE standard in this backline.
He has a 6 year contract, we wouldn't have done that if we weren't 100% sure he was going to be leading this group for a long time.
Work into it, it's gonna be like this for awhile.
I was his biggest backer early in the year but he has disappointed me more than any other player as we’ve fallen away. When Hep left the defence we needed a general with tactical nous and clear direction. He’s failed on that significantly and it’s cost us in close games and when momentum catches us out in transition. He’s capable as a small defender but I don’t think he’s the leader we hoped he’d be.
God help us we are truly ****edI think people need to ease up on the criticisms, this is one of our leaders, when Zac retires he will be our captain, he is THE standard in this backline.
He has a 6 year contract, we wouldn't have done that if we weren't 100% sure he was going to be leading this group for a long time.
Work into it, it's gonna be like this for awhile.
would love to know if he can actually seewould love to know if hes hurting
Managed to maintain the rage for the past 19 years, what's another 6?Totally get that, but he's who we have, and who we are going to have for the next 5 years.
So I just doubt we can maintain the rage for that long, might need to pace ourselves, he isn't going anywhere and he ain't gonna get better.
maybe you will get parole after 20Managed to maintain the rage for the past 19 years, what's another 6?
If he was a good decision maker, penetrative kick, made sure he didn’t lose his direct opponent, he could be a solid small lockdown defender. You could probably make him VC too as he could be reliable and could show great leadership through his actions.I was suggesting he could be one of, if not the best small defender in the comp if others rise around him
I think people need to ease up on the criticisms, this is one of our leaders, when Zac retires he will be our captain, he is THE standard in this backline.
He has a 6 year contract, we wouldn't have done that if we weren't 100% sure he was going to be leading this group for a long time.
Work into it, it's gonna be like this for awhile.
He is actually a pretty solid player truth be told. Yeah he make a few mistakes but he is a good, honest footballer.Totally get that, but he's who we have, and who we are going to have for the next 5 years.
So I just doubt we can maintain the rage for that long, might need to pace ourselves, he isn't going anywhere and he ain't gonna get better.
Because they don't care that he was taken at pick one, they just see what he's doing on the field right now which is at a fairly decent standard.How does the media see him so different?
He was given such a let off by commentators all night.
He’s the leader in that backline and he’s not up to it, take the VC off him.
He is actually a pretty solid player truth be told. Yeah he make a few mistakes but he is a good, honest footballer.
He’s better than that I think.He's an average footballer.
That's fine, he isn't alone, our team is full of them.
Agree.He's an average footballer.
That's fine, he isn't alone, our team is full of them.
He’s better than that I think.
He can go 1:1 with the best small forwards in the comp. He’s excellent defensively when focused on that part of the game.
He’s not top draw with ball in hand. Doesn’t have great poise under pressure but he gives it a crack and tries to create.
Overall he’s a good player, not what you want from # 1 pick but the least of our issues.
That’s as a player. He’s another who has no notion of real leadership however. From the Heppell school. Should be replaced as VC, give it to Caldwell.
He is actually a pretty solid player truth be told. Yeah he make a few mistakes but he is a good, honest footballer.
Agree to disagree on this one.He can match a small forward if that's all he's focused on, and even then the basics he gets wrong. Where to stand, following his man to wrong areas, going the wrong side of a pack.
He is a basic footballer with no weapons.
He is an average AFL footballer, a good footballer is a higher bar than what he is consistently.
Can he play good games? Have good moments? Of course, based on some of the athleticism he does have but so can Mabior Chol.
But he reverts to the mean on a large enough sample size.
He's been in the league awhile now, and still makes basic, fundamental errors.
Again all fine, he's not the core reason of why you point to our team and say they are poor due to his on field ability (his standards and leadership I won't comment on but I question those and how they impact a team), he's a back pocket who's largely inconsequential to how this build is going to do.
But he is not a good footballer.
I am wondering if he needs to step down as VC. the issue I have with him as when he gets the ball you know never know what you are going to get. Could be anything from nice kick to panicky handbal to dashing off up the ground where there are no options to go to. I wonder if the weight of VC is making him try too hard to make things happen. Sometimes it is like he can not see that far up the ground and just runs / kicks blindy out of defence. His defending is not too bad overall. Just needs to work out what he is doing with the ball.He is actually a pretty solid player truth be told. Yeah he make a few mistakes but he is a good, honest footballer.