Past #1: Jack Mahony - drafted w #34 in '17 ND - delisted end '23 - 40 NM games/17 NM goals - thx Mahns

[pupstar]

There is a good lesson there I think ...
“ don’t write off a kid that is 18-19 & has less than 50 games under his belt “
We have quite a few of these kids on our list with a handful of games & (some even yet to play AFL) .
Lets try to put a bit of trust & faith in our current recruitment staff. I reckon you will all agree that we would never of dreamt debuting 3 first year players & possibly a 4th soon in Ford in one year ! This would have never of happened under BScott .

Do you know the actual numbers that debuted under Scott. What was the most in one season.

 

[DuckYeah]

People get confused about Jack.. he looks 30, so people think hes been on the list for over a decade and played 250 games

 

[RossHenshaw]

Do you know the actual numbers that debuted under Scott. What was the most in one season.

You might just be correct ,
But the difference with Noble is that he gives the kids time / games to prove themselves...
How quickly we forget BScott’s revolving door ,,, play them for a game after languishing in the reserves 1-2 years... drop them after 1 game & play 30+ year olds instead ,,, Delist them ...
Because um ..” we aren’t rebuilding , .. we are um .. heck knows “

 

[Liam Boy]

Do you know the actual numbers that debuted under Scott. What was the most in one season.

Not including players who had already debuted for other clubs, players who are stil on the list in bold:
in 2010 we had 7: Ryan Bastinac, Ben Cunnington, Nathan O'Keefe, Robbie Tarrant, Jamie Macmillan, Ben Speight, and Marcus White
another 7 in 2011: Shaun Atley, Cam Pedersen, Cam Richardson, Kieran Harper, Luke Delaney, Aaron Mullett, and Aaron Black
3 in 2012: Cam Delaney, Brad McKenzie, and Sam Gibson
3 in 2013: Majak Daw, Will Sierakowski, and Taylor Garner
6 in 2014: Dan Currie, Joel Tippett, Ben Brown, Max Warren, Kayne Turner, and Mason Wood
1 in 2015: Trent Dumont
2 in 2016: Corey Wagner and Ryan Clarke
11 in 2017: Mitch Hibberd, Declan Mountford, Braydon Preuss, Jy Simpkin, Sam Durdin, Ed Vickers-Willis, Dan Nielson, Cameron Zurhaar, Nick Larkey, Josh Williams, and Ben McKay
5 in 2018: Luke Davies-Uniacke, Paul Ahern, Tom Murphy, Alex Morgan, and Will Walker
3 in 2019: Bailey Scott, Tarryn Thomas and Curtis Taylor (I haven't forgotten Kyron Hayden, he debuted under Shaw)

Interesting trends. Scott tried all kinds of guys at first, then the debutants started to get older and more mature for a few years followed by extremely lean years in 2015 and 2016, an absolute explosion in 2017 as Scott did his semi-rebuild, then back down in the following years. All I can say is: geez we had a lot of players who didn't make it, but I'm sure other clubs would have similar lists like this. Seeing which years have multiple players that are still on the list is interesting, none from 2012 or 2016, only 1 each year from 2013-2015, only 4 from 2017 out of 11 debutants.

 

[giantroo]

Had a direct hand in 5 of our goals.

Our 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th goals

 

[pupstar]

Not including players who had already debuted for other clubs, players who are stil on the list in bold:
in 2010 we had 7: Ryan Bastinac, Ben Cunnington, Nathan O'Keefe, Robbie Tarrant, Jamie Macmillan, Ben Speight, and Marcus White
another 7 in 2011: Shaun Atley, Cam Pedersen, Cam Richardson, Kieran Harper, Luke Delaney, Aaron Mullett, and Aaron Black
3 in 2012: Cam Delaney, Brad McKenzie, and Sam Gibson
3 in 2013: Majak Daw, Will Sierakowski, and Taylor Garner
6 in 2014: Dan Currie, Joel Tippett, Ben Brown, Max Warren, Kayne Turner, and Mason Wood
1 in 2015: Trent Dumont
2 in 2016: Corey Wagner and Ryan Clarke
11 in 2017: Mitch Hibberd, Declan Mountford, Braydon Preuss, Jy Simpkin, Sam Durdin, Ed Vickers-Willis, Dan Nielson, Cameron Zurhaar, Nick Larkey, Josh Williams, and Ben McKay
5 in 2018: Luke Davies-Uniacke, Paul Ahern, Tom Murphy, Alex Morgan, and Will Walker
3 in 2019: Bailey Scott, Tarryn Thomas and Curtis Taylor (I haven't forgotten Kyron Hayden, he debuted under Shaw)

Interesting trends. Scott tried all kinds of guys at first, then the debutants started to get older and more mature for a few years followed by extremely lean years in 2015 and 2016, an absolute explosion in 2017 as Scott did his semi-rebuild, then back down in the following years. All I can say is: geez we had a lot of players who didn't make it, but I'm sure other clubs would have similar lists like this. Seeing which years have multiple players that are still on the list is interesting, none from 2012 or 2016, only 1 each year from 2013-2015, only 4 from 2017 out of 11 debutants.

That is a pretty good list Liam Boy and very good work. I realize there are not to may Scott fans on here but he gets a raw deal AT times on some subjects i believe but i am probably bias cause i did not dislike him as so many on here did.

 

[The acurate one]

Inacurate.

Well spelt

 

[Liam Boy]

Had a direct hand in 5 of our goals.

Our 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th goals

I believe he would've had a direct hand in a couple more if his teammates hadn't missed gettable shots

 

[The acurate one]

yes I may have gone a touch early;



We should build our team around Jack. Jokes aside good on those backing him in and we'll see aye.

 

[pupstar]

yes I may have gone a touch early;

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We should build our team around Jack. Jokes aside good on those backing him in and we'll see aye.

Yeah i suppose at the end of the day we all want the same thing flags and then some more of them so lets hope all our players work out.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

I think people get confused with Crafty. He was 19 before he turned 20. He is 1 second into his football career. Still growing too from what I've heard. He could end up being the 6ft 4in wingman from hell we've been yearning for. Watch this space.

 

[RobZombie]

yes I may have gone a touch early;

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We should build our team around Jack. Jokes aside good on those backing him in and we'll see aye.

Tends to happen with players who get more of the ball.

 

[hundini]

I believe he would've had a direct hand in a couple more if his teammates hadn't missed gettable shots

Anyone notice he was collected high in the dying seconds, directly in front. Unfortunately for Jack, umpires had put their whistles away

 

[Lomas]

Anyone notice he was collected high in the dying seconds, directly in front. Unfortunately for Jack, umpires had put their whistles away

Well, he did choose to be short. That's on him.

 

[Shinboner1]

How about that Mahony handball to start off the passage of play.

 

[The Nostradamus]

yes I may have gone a touch early;

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We should build our team around Jack. Jokes aside good on those backing him in and we'll see aye.

Lol yep good to see you on the anti Mahony wagon also
Currently averages 11 touches a game at 67% efficiency which is drawing praise

 

[Merlin007]

How about that Mahony handball to start off the passage of play.

yeah, he has some nice touch for a kid with no future

 

[Swallow_Wood]

Had a direct hand in 5 of our goals.

Our 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th goals

Yeah but he isn't kicking them, so delist.


Edit post the Ziebull like: Rolliest of rollie eyes thingy

 

[Shinboner1]

yeah, he has some nice touch for a kid with no future

no future?

 

[Merlin007]

Tends to happen with players who get more of the ball.

Yep, always best to tell the whole story - you have to get the ball, before you can make a mistake; top ten in the categories that count for comparable players, and 25-50% improvement year on year across the key metrics. Going nowhere, fast

 

[Ligma]

He was skyrocketing torps today


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[The Nostradamus]

Yep, always best to tell the whole story - you have to get the ball, before you can make a mistake; top ten in the categories that count for comparable players, and 25-50% improvement year on year across the key metrics. Going nowhere, fast

Quite literally the bolded

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Seems that looking at the stats is pointless with Mahony. Watching him, seventy percent of the good stuff he does can never be measured via the spread of stats we have available to us, as his little toe-pokes, taps, blocks etc start a chain of play that may register a traditional stat 4-5 seconds later by another teammate.

He has nous and is only getting better.

 

[Caracas]

yes I may have gone a touch early;

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We should build our team around Jack. Jokes aside good on those backing him in and we'll see aye.

I’m sure people were saying that about Ats in 2011. They’re still saying it and nobody is happy!


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[Liam Boy]

I’m sure people were saying that about Ats in 2011. They’re still saying it and nobody is happy!


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Atley and Mahony are polar opposites. Atley has the perfect football body with no football brain, and you can figure the other half out yourself