Player Watch #11: Jason Castagna - signed to 2023

[Grrr]

It came as no surprise to come on to this thread and find a chorus line of my blocked posters all over it like a rash.

I've seen enough football to know a spud. George is out of form and deserves to be sent to the twos to get his form back - but that is quite different to being a spud. duck, Richo deserved to be sent to the twos at various times for being out of form. I suspect the hot heads deep down do know the difference between talent and form but don't want to join the dots.

The thing about George is he is mercurial and mercurial players run hot and cold. But here is the important part; they demand an opponent because if you pay him no attention, next thing you know he's got 3 goals.

It should be completely obvious (but I suspect it isn't to the hot heads), that this is the complete opposite of Jake Aarts, who is not up to AFL level no matter how hard a trainer he might be. Aarts is pretty much exactly the same as Morris; he wasn't up to it either. I see George as more of a Chris Naish type.

George is one of my favourite players, I reckon he's hilarious. Not denying he's out of form and I back the coaching staff to make the right call.

I can't see replies from blocked posters so don't cry if I don't reply.

Agree. You can't call a triple premiership player a spud no matter what. In one of those games he could have had a Normy but for kicking 1.5 and at least another on the full. He is obviously a limited player, and those types usually get exposed in the end, which I think he has. Being out of form just adds to that. It's a natural progression.

George bobbed up at the right time and with his speed and decent marking ability (took the second most inside 50 marks in 2018 from memory behind Jack) he helped form the pressure game that took us to the flags. Whether it is the new rules or just a trailing off, he has been on the cusp for a while now and it does him no favours being named every week. He must be feeling the pressure which eventually affects performance.

Nothing but respect for him, and I know he's a really nice bloke, but footy is a tough environment.

 

[beema limapep]

Yes, but the SCG is like as crowded phonebox. All the forwards were shite…

It's the grounds fault Castagna played rubbish? Guess he had no space to guard?

 

[GhostofJimJess]

i don’t think he has the skills by hand or foot to do this , the three you mentioned have well above average disposal quality, putting him there would open us up to the opposition really badly, unfortunately it’s hard to improve your skill after you become an established footballer in any code, you learn them at a much younger age (skill) his kicking is deplorable does not look at the ball and always twirls it when walking in, surely the coaches have said your not JR or Mabior Chol stop twirling the ball prior to the kick

I suspect you're probably right SB, but it's always going seem a bit strange that we're obligated to play a bloke in the forward half because we can't trust his disposal. I'd still be keen to send him back to the VFL to try and rejuvenate his self confidence a bit, whether that's in a new role out of defence or not.

 

[beema limapep]

Agree. You can't call a triple premiership player a spud no matter what. .

You can for a number of reasons. One being if you believe the game has changed (which it has) and has gone past him. He's gone from just best 22 in a predominantly fwd systems based era to well outside best 22 based on a fwd skills based era.

His lack of adaptation to changes in the game is staggering and highlights how shallow his skill set runs. He is not a footballer.

He is holding us back.

 

[Grrr]

You can for a number of reasons. One being if you believe the game has changed (which it has) and has gone past him. He's gone from just best 22 in a predominantly fwd systems based era to well outside best 22 based on a fwd skills based era.

His lack of adaptation to changes in the game is staggering and highlights how shallow his skill set runs. He is not a footballer.

He is holding us back.

I agree with all those points. He was a fair player, bottom 22 for sure through those Premiership years, but still good enough to hold his place mainly due to the system we played. Times change and Hardwick is too loyal and unwilling to experiment at times. But spud is a bit harsh and should be reserved for opponents, not his fault he is a sp...

 

[beema limapep]

I agree with all those points. He was a fair player, bottom 22 for sure through those Premiership years, but still good enough to hold his place mainly due to the system we played. Times change and Hardwick is too loyal and unwilling to experiment at times. But spud is a bit harsh and should be reserved for opponents, not his fault he is a sp...

You say potato I say potatoe.

It's semantics. He is at where he is at.

 

[Boston tiger]

Played his role beautifully against the Swans. One of his most unselfish disciplined games for the year . Undisciplined players around him lost it for us.

 

[Boston tiger]

Loved his grand finals . Let’s just let this one go out with some dignity and respect. I doubt Dimma tells his forwards to just go out and get as many kicks and handballs as you possibly can. Dimma has coached 3 premierships . George has always been a handful for opposition backman. If his time is up then let’s cheer him off.

 

[SunshineBoy]

I agree with all those points. He was a fair player, bottom 22 for sure through those Premiership years, but still good enough to hold his place mainly due to the system we played. Times change and Hardwick is too loyal and unwilling to experiment at times. But spud is a bit harsh and should be reserved for opponents, not his fault he is a sp...

Still good enough to hold his place IMac was unlucky to miss one , sidni was unlucky to miss one , both those players have skill sets greater than marking space George who got a small forward does very little small forward stuff, people on here get on MRJs case but he has only just debuted whereas the other small forward is allowed to guard space and finish with 2 (two) possessions , sorry guys but his time was up last year , iirc correctly we were missing our legendary forward half pressure all last year and we had Jack and the other small forward Tom lunch chasing player last year, whilst our smallw were guarding space

 

[Sol23]

It came as no surprise to come on to this thread and find a chorus line of my blocked posters all over it like a rash.

I've seen enough football to know a spud. George is out of form and deserves to be sent to the twos to get his form back - but that is quite different to being a spud. duck, Richo deserved to be sent to the twos at various times for being out of form. I suspect the hot heads deep down do know the difference between talent and form but don't want to join the dots.

The thing about George is he is mercurial and mercurial players run hot and cold. But here is the important part; they demand an opponent because if you pay him no attention, next thing you know he's got 3 goals.

It should be completely obvious (but I suspect it isn't to the hot heads), that this is the complete opposite of Jake Aarts, who is not up to AFL level no matter how hard a trainer he might be. Aarts is pretty much exactly the same as Morris; he wasn't up to it either. I see George as more of a Chris Naish type.

George is one of my favourite players, I reckon he's hilarious. Not denying he's out of form and I back the coaching staff to make the right call.

I can't see replies from blocked posters so don't cry if I don't reply.

He’s not mercurial lol he’s just had a charmed run in an unbelievable good team filled with stars. We are now seeing the real George…. The biggest spud to win a flag.

 

[Goshka]

I stand by my assessment that he’s one of, if not the worst football players I have ever seen. No hyperbole. If you have no skill and no football IQ, then you are not a competent footballer. Even the spuds we have drafted during our dark years offered something. George? Zero. People say pace, but that’s not a football skill. Why not recruit some amateur sprinter if you want someone with pace but lacks in every other area?

The only reason he’s not playing at Marcellin is because Dimma has created some f***ing ridiculous role for him and he’s too stubborn to concede that it’s not working. It’s as simple as that. And it never worked. He’s always been dog shit. He’s just been surrounded by great players and has been fortunate enough to be in a great team that hid all of his deficiencies. Nathan Gordon

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, Matt Arnot and Adam Maric would all have three medallions if they had Castagna’s luck. Because on pure football ability, they all have him covered.

 

[tigerdan]

He’s not mercurial lol he’s just had a charmed run in an unbelievable good team filled with stars. We are now seeing the real George…. The biggest spud to win a flag.

Amazing isnt it, how the match committee kept selecting a spud in three premiership teams.

 

[beema limapep]

Loved his grand finals . Let’s just let this one go out with some dignity and respect.

Let him go out? He's 25! How many more years do you want him in the side stinking it up whilst everyone's dignity and respect (including his) is peed upon?

 

[beema limapep]

Amazing isnt it, how the match committee kept selecting a spud in three premiership teams.

Yeah, amazing isn't it.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, you think Castagna is 3 times the player than Matty Richardson.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, Matt Spangher is a better player than Gary Ablett Snr.

Probably also believe that The Bombers would beat Richmond because a war plane can annihilate a tiger in real life.

 

[Wooden Robot]

It came as no surprise to come on to this thread and find a chorus line of my blocked posters all over it like a rash.

I've seen enough football to know a spud. George is out of form and deserves to be sent to the twos to get his form back - but that is quite different to being a spud. duck, Richo deserved to be sent to the twos at various times for being out of form. I suspect the hot heads deep down do know the difference between talent and form but don't want to join the dots.

The thing about George is he is mercurial and mercurial players run hot and cold. But here is the important part; they demand an opponent because if you pay him no attention, next thing you know he's got 3 goals.

It should be completely obvious (but I suspect it isn't to the hot heads), that this is the complete opposite of Jake Aarts, who is not up to AFL level no matter how hard a trainer he might be. Aarts is pretty much exactly the same as Morris; he wasn't up to it either. I see George as more of a Chris Naish type.

George is one of my favourite players, I reckon he's hilarious. Not denying he's out of form and I back the coaching staff to make the right call.

I can't see replies from blocked posters so don't cry if I don't reply.

Comic gold ... although I'm probably banned.
Guessing it says more about you than anyone else that you ban supposed 'hot heads'.
Why challenge your little utopia?
But back to George ... LOL ... mercurial.
Daicos was MERCURIAL; Ablett Snr MERCURIAL; Darren Jarman MERCURIAL; McLeod, Cyril Rioli, Peter Matera, Michael Mitchell, all MERCURIAL?
Castagna, mercurial?
Surely a piss-take.
Hot and cold? He hasn't been hot in two years and only then he was ever hot twice a year.
It's saying nothing, but Aarts is better value and he's no good.
Castagna should have wnt before him, at least Jakey gets to the fall of the ball and grabs it every once in a while.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Yeah, amazing isn't it.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, you think Castagna is 3 times the player than Matty Richardson.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, Matt Spangher is a better player than Gary Ablett Snr.

Probably also believe that The Bombers would beat Richmond because a war plane can annihilate a tiger in real life.

Settle down HOT HEAD

 

[Sol23]

Amazing isnt it, how the match committee kept selecting a spud in three premiership teams.

People like you will never get it. I’ll just second whag beema said below

 

[Goshka]

Stop.
Using.
Team.
Accolades.
To.
Talk.
Up.
An.
Individual.

 

[beema limapep]

Settle down HOT HEAD

Apparently the more people you ban yourself from listening to and the less opinions and ideas you expose yourself to, the more correct your opinions must be.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Now read it again.

We have reached 'Peak Castagna', where those seeking sober open discussion are dispensed as 'hot heads' and even the mildest of opinions are apparently a 'rash' on the flanks of ones utopia.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Apparently the more people you ban yourself from listening to and the less opinions and ideas you expose yourself to, the more correct your opinions must be.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Now read it again.

We have reached 'Peak Castagna', where those seeking sober open discussion are dispensed as 'hot heads' and even the mildest of opinions are apparently a 'rash' on the flanks of ones utopia.

Funniest thing is said Poster makes a point once or twice a week that he has 'so many people' on Ignore; and every four weeks has the need to tells us that 'oh, I peeked at who I had on Ignore, but now I'll put them back on Ignore'.
Just f****** weird. Or is that 'mercurial'??
Must be great having no room to listen to others.

 

[beema limapep]

Funniest thing is said Poster makes a point once or twice a week that he has 'so many people' on Ignore; and every four weeks has the need to tells us that 'oh, I peeked at who I had on Ignore, but now I'll put them back on Ignore'.
Just f****** weird. Or is that 'mercurial'??
Must be great having no room to listen to others.

 

[beema limapep]

It came as no surprise to come on to this thread and find a chorus line of my blocked posters all over it like a rash.

I've seen enough football to know a spud. George is out of form and deserves to be sent to the twos to get his form back - but that is quite different to being a spud. duck, Richo deserved to be sent to the twos at various times for being out of form. I suspect the hot heads deep down do know the difference between talent and form but don't want to join the dots.

The thing about George is he is mercurial and mercurial players run hot and cold. But here is the important part; they demand an opponent because if you pay him no attention, next thing you know he's got 3 goals.

It should be completely obvious (but I suspect it isn't to the hot heads), that this is the complete opposite of Jake Aarts, who is not up to AFL level no matter how hard a trainer he might be. Aarts is pretty much exactly the same as Morris; he wasn't up to it either. I see George as more of a Chris Naish type.

George is one of my favourite players, I reckon he's hilarious. Not denying he's out of form and I back the coaching staff to make the right call.

I can't see replies from blocked posters so don't cry if I don't reply.

If you can read this, add me to your ignore list please.

No longer interested in participating in anyone's whimsical self indulgent utopia.

 

[Sol23]

George is mercurial….

 

[tigerdan]

Yeah, amazing isn't it.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, you think Castagna is 3 times the player than Matty Richardson.

Amazing isnt it that by your logic, Matt Spangher is a better player than Gary Ablett Snr.

Probably also believe that The Bombers would beat Richmond because a war plane can annihilate a tiger in real life.

You're not very bright are you.

Out of all the other players on our list that the committee could have named on grand final day they went with a spud every single time.

Good on ya Einstein.

 

[beema limapep]

You're not very bright are you.

Out of all the other players on our list that the committee could have named on grand final day they went with a spud every single time.

Good on ya Einstein.