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Only hole being dug here is that which sees you demanding a bunch of spuds would walk over triple Premiership players.
I'm demanding that am i?
You english good no?
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Feel free to share your credentials with us kid.
Only hole being dug here is that which sees you demanding a bunch of spuds would walk over triple Premiership players.
Feel free to share your credentials with us kid.
Only hole being dug here is that which sees you demanding a bunch of spuds would walk over triple Premiership players.
So the collingwood side of 1927, 1928, 1929, and 1930 would beat melbourne 2012?
There's a bit of a difference between the 1920's and the 1980's.
That Carlton team would probably not win the flag these days, but they'd be a final 8 team quite easily.
So the saints, essendon, Carlton and Richmond miss the 8 but a team from the early 80's wouldn't? Lol
You would need more then one preseason just to build up body mass.
Yeah, probably. Particularly so if they had a modern preseason and were updated on tactics. A guy like Bruce Doull would have been made for today's game. You say "a team from the early 80's" like the time period speaks by virtue of itself, but there would be a number of teams from the 80's that would likely spank those sides.
And no amount of pre season would make them taller.
You cant give the 1982 team modern tactics and training otherwise you'd be elevating them to that of a modern AFL team and that's not what this hypothetical is about.
And IMO that's what will kill the teams from the 80's and even 90's, the level of tactical awareness in the modern game added to the fitness of the modern players would not be matched by the earlier players no matter how strong or skilful they were.
You would need more then one preseason just to build up body mass.
I sometimes wonder if a modern day cellar dweller would beat a premiership team from a different era.
Would, say Melbourne, beat the 1982 Carlton Premiership team (for example) if both were in their respective playing / training / fitness conditions and levels?
Considering the big gap in the speed and skill in the game between now and then would the modern day dees run 1982 Carlton off their feet? Or would Carlton's raw talent be enough?
There are alot of variables like tactics and playing styles and umpiring standards / interpretations.
Just some off season wondering
I think body mass would probably be more of an issue for the Melbourne kids tbh. The Carlton side would be more worried about skin folds and endurance, in which significant gains could be had over one preseason.
Has someone already quoted the fact the melbourne side was far heavier than the carlton team of the 80s?
I think the difference between both last game teams is something like 3.63kg p/player. I'm imagine given the height of the Carlton team the BMI would actually be giving them greater body mass relative to height.
I think the difference between both last game teams is something like 3.63kg p/player. I'm imagine given the height of the Carlton team the BMI would actually be giving them greater body mass relative to height.
You have to factor in the skin folds of the Carlton guys which would be far greater.
The Carlton side would be more worried about skin folds and endurance, in which significant gains could be had over one preseason.
nearly 4kgs is huge.. plus the 80's players would have WAY more fat on them, meaning the current players would probably have on average 4 kgs more muscle than 80's players, plus height speed and endurance.
That's just an assumption which re the midfield anyway, I don't think carries the WAY measure that you're claiming here. Yes, 3.6kg isn't anything to be sneezed at for sure, but you see guys who are 4kg heavier lose contests all the time in the modern game. It's not as simple as the heavier bloke wins. And guys like Trengove and Jones aren't all that heavier than guys they'd be lining up against. Jones is actually lighter than Harmes for instance and probably not as fast either.
However, all this comes from the context of a comment ... that one preseason would not account for the additional muscle mass, to which I replied the Melbourne kids probably would struggle as much for muscle mass; which as I noted with BMI considered, is actually a fair enough comment.
BMI has nothing to do with muscle mass. According to your BMI most afl players would be way over weight. It's a simplistic tool for the mum at home to roughly calculate her ideal weight.
That's just an assumption which re the midfield anyway, I don't think carries the WAY measure that you're claiming here. Yes, 3.6kg isn't anything to be sneezed at for sure, but you see guys who are 4kg heavier lose contests all the time in the modern game. It's not as simple as the heavier bloke wins. And guys like Trengove and Jones aren't all that heavier than guys they'd be lining up against. Jones is actually lighter than Harmes for instance and probably not as fast either.
However, all this comes from the context of a comment ... that one preseason would not account for the additional muscle mass, to which I replied the Melbourne kids probably would struggle as much for muscle mass; which as I noted with BMI considered, is actually a fair enough comment.
BMI has nothing to do with muscle mass. According to your BMI most afl players would be way over weight. It's a simplistic tool for the mum at home to roughly calculate her ideal weight.
You aren't taking into account the fact 80's players had much more fat on them ...