Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[And_ROOS]

Interesting watching on the couch Goodwin mentions in one of his breaks he told the team basically get it on the boot and go for distance. Common theme this year in finals with the other top teams is that they worked hard on both quick breaks from the centre clearances, and often getting territory especially up the middle of the ground.

Its a telling stat, in our only finals win we had 5914m gained against GWS.

Bulldogs V Essendon 6613, V Brisbane 6230, V Port 6245, V Melbourne 5659 (up on their average of 5718 for the season)

Melbourne V Brisbane 6840, V Geelong 6545 (we had a paltry 5273), V Bulldogs 6499 (up on their season average of 6083 for the season)

We probably need to realise while the 6-6-6 rule is here, we need players with either the ability to kick it quickly, long and direct, or who have run and carry and go long and direct.

In our QF loss to Port we went at 5360m gained (season average 5386) to Ports 6227 (season average 5600).

Hope the new assistants come in with some more progressive thinking because contested ball, contested clearances and metres gained are going to be the main things you look at in finals because long kicks take the pressure off the defence or mids.

 

[Partridge]

Interesting watching on the couch Goodwin mentions in one of his breaks he told the team basically get it on the boot and go for distance. Common theme this year in finals with the other top teams is that they worked hard on both quick breaks from the centre clearances, and often getting territory especially up the middle of the ground.

Its a telling stat, in our only finals win we had 5914m gained against GWS.

Bulldogs V Essendon 6613, V Brisbane 6230, V Port 6245, V Melbourne 5659 (up on their average of 5718 for the season)

Melbourne V Brisbane 6840, V Geelong 6545 (we had a paltry 5273), V Bulldogs 6499 (up on their season average of 6083 for the season)

We probably need to realise while the 6-6-6 rule is here, we need players with either the ability to kick it quickly, long and direct, or who have run and carry and go long and direct.

In our QF loss to Port we went at 5360m gained (season average 5386) to Ports 6227 (season average 5600).

Hope the new assistants come in with some more progressive thinking because contested ball, contested clearances and metres gained are going to be the main things you look at in finals because long kicks take the pressure off the defence or mids.

It's interesting, because to me, that's just going back to a more attacking mindset that other teams have had.

Case in point - 2007. Watch the finals, and particularly the Grand final. Chapman in particular gets the ball and moves it forward FAST. There were many goals we got that day purely due to the speed of movement and really putting defenders under pressure. And that long kick to the forward line is a massive part of that.

Good to see Goodwin mention it, we might hope other clubs might try and copy and play something close to entertaining footy next year.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

I can remember at the after match coaches press conferences at the conclusion of the 2011 GF - and Mick Malthouse said - quote

" This will be my last day at the football club "

Well when Scott says that - it will be music to my ears

 

[catempire]

Interesting watching on the couch Goodwin mentions in one of his breaks he told the team basically get it on the boot and go for distance. Common theme this year in finals with the other top teams is that they worked hard on both quick breaks from the centre clearances, and often getting territory especially up the middle of the ground.

Its a telling stat, in our only finals win we had 5914m gained against GWS.

Bulldogs V Essendon 6613, V Brisbane 6230, V Port 6245, V Melbourne 5659 (up on their average of 5718 for the season)

Melbourne V Brisbane 6840, V Geelong 6545 (we had a paltry 5273), V Bulldogs 6499 (up on their season average of 6083 for the season)

We probably need to realise while the 6-6-6 rule is here, we need players with either the ability to kick it quickly, long and direct, or who have run and carry and go long and direct.

In our QF loss to Port we went at 5360m gained (season average 5386) to Ports 6227 (season average 5600).

Hope the new assistants come in with some more progressive thinking because contested ball, contested clearances and metres gained are going to be the main things you look at in finals because long kicks take the pressure off the defence or mids.

Without checking, I’m near certain metres gained is very highly correlated with winning the ball. Win the ball and you gain metres.

 

[Cataholic]

Without checking, I’m near certain metres gained is very highly correlated with winning the ball. Win the ball and you gain metres.

Would be interested in the result of the speed with which those metres are gained if it could be measured.

 

[Seeds]

The other half of the side aren’t affected? Interesting

Well not in a negative way if they are under 29

 

[iameviljez]

I'm not referring just to finals. For too long, too much is expected and is done by our best 8 or so.
Danger, Guthrie, Selwood, Hawkins, Cameron, Duncan, Parfitt, Stewart
Of those, 6 had injuries interrupting their seasons and nobody else can step up. Just how it is.
We get cameos from Rohan and Tuohy had a good year, but again got injured

Our list reminds me a lot of our 1989 - 1995 list. Plenty of star power but five or six players who would not get a game in the teams that won the flag.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Our list reminds me a lot of our 1989 - 1995 list. Plenty of star power but five or six players who would not get a game in the teams that won the flag.

Is there much star power? You have Cameron and Stewart who are both high-end players still in their prime age bracket. Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood are big names who have performed to a high standard but are very much on their way down. Other than that, it's pretty barren. It's a long way from Melbourne or the Dogs, who have a group of top-end players who will be in their footballing prime for a number of years yet. We are yesterday's news, and our list has reflected that for some years now. We've been acquiring last generation talent and trying to use it to compete with the upper echelon of the current generation, the results of which were laid bare come finals.

 

[Wellsy35]

Is there much star power? You have Cameron and Stewart who are both high-end players still in their prime age bracket. Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood are big names who have performed to a high standard but are very much on their way down. Other than that, it's pretty barren. It's a long way from Melbourne or the Dogs, who have a group of top-end players who will be in their footballing prime for a number of years yet. We are yesterday's news, and our list has reflected that for some years now. We've been acquiring last generation talent and trying to use it to compete with the upper echelon of the current generation, the results of which were laid bare come finals.

Only thing I’d disagree with here is Hawkins - definitely a star still. Arguably playing career-best footy. Guy’s Coleman finishes over the last 4 years read: 3rd, 6th, 1st, 2nd. 1st in goal assists last year and 4th among forwards this year (#2 at the club - 1 behind Selwood).

 

[Shadow89]

Found this excerpt from Hock, very, very interesting - as I've thought for a while that he's already driving a lot of change:

"Hocking said he expected Geelong to be ‘progressive’ with its decision making during his reign.

“I am excited to be back at the club and this opportunity will provide me with further growth and development and enable me to share experiences and learnings I have gained along the way,” Hocking said.

Our club has an outstanding record in recent years and in many ways is much stronger both on and off the field.

“The AFL competition is a very competitive environment where we will need to be progressive in our decision making to continue our strength as a club.”

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[FredLeDeux]

Found this excerpt from Hock, very, very interesting - as I've thought for a while that he's already driving a lot of change:

"Hocking said he expected Geelong to be ‘progressive’ with its decision making during his reign.

“I am excited to be back at the club and this opportunity will provide me with further growth and development and enable me to share experiences and learnings I have gained along the way,” Hocking said.

Our club has an outstanding record in recent years and in many ways is much stronger both on and off the field.

“The AFL competition is a very competitive environment where we will need to be progressive in our decision making to continue our strength as a club.”

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Yes, yes, but what does it all mean, comrade?
- E.G.Whitlam

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Alright now I'm just confused:

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"Scotty was one person that I have worked with that I learnt an enormous amount from and I am really excited to continue working with him, he is a good person and a good coach,” Kelly said.

“Me spending time around him is only going to be a good thing.”

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Mad_Catter year of the cat , you're the guys with the intel - what do you guys make of this?

Scott and the club have agreed for him to see out the last year of his contract. Not sure whether they couldn't come to a payout agreement in the end, or whether Scott just decided to honour his last year in the end. Apologies for getting the hopes up of people that want to see him moved on, but the fact is a meeting did occur where Scott and the club discussed an early departure from his contract. That is factual information and I certainly stand by what I reported on here.

Personally, I am happy he is staying - I think even though he's clearly burned out, the man is an absolute professional, and I have no doubt he will give us his full commitment and dedication in what will certainly be his last year at the helm. Unless something drastically changes, this gives us a full year to prepare for a life after Scott. Clarkson, Buckley etc will be available and this gives us time to start assessing our options. Those guys will be hungry after a year out of the game IMO.

In any case, Scott is our man for the next 12-months.

 

[Shadow89]

Scott and the club have agreed for him to see out the last year of his contract. Not sure whether they couldn't come to a payout agreement in the end, or whether Scott just decided to honour his last year in the end. Apologies for getting the hopes up of people that want to see him moved on, but the fact is a meeting did occur where Scott and the club discussed an early departure from his contract. That is factual information and I certainly stand by what I reported on here.

Personally, I am happy he is staying - I think even though he's clearly burned out, the man is an absolute professional, and I have no doubt he will give us his full commitment and dedication in what will certainly be his last year at the helm. Unless something drastically changes, this gives us a full year to prepare for a life after Scott. Clarkson, Buckley etc will be available and this gives us time to start assessing our options. Those guys will be hungry after a year out of the game IMO.

In any case, Scott is our man for the next 12-months.

Appreciate the info and the clarity, and no doubts at all that what you reported was factual. Don't stop sharing and cheers again

 

[00VicWard001]

Yes, yes, but what does it all mean, comrade?
- E.G.Whitlam

In my opinion - it means that he's picked apart the top tier clubs while he was able to look into their operations. And he knows what the best practise is. The progressive part for me means that he is also willing to throw away the concept of needing to finish in the top 4 every year, which really was Cook's baby, and allow the recruiters and coaches to not just focus on the short term, but to set the club up to realistically challenge in future.

It's interesting - aiming for an 7-8/10 season for multiple years appears to statistically trump a 4/10, 5/10, 6/10 and a 10/10 season. It probably does in terms of commercial operations, and stability.

But the emotional high of 10/10 season and winning a premiership (no guarantee of this either) feels better for everyone and does actually impact the bottom line (as Melbourne have found out).

Geelong have been conservative for many many years, taking the safe option of playing finals. It just keeps the same thing going over and over again, protects jobs, maintains the status quo. Not necessarily a good or bad thing.

No matter what, there is no guarantee of success following 8/10 contending seasons or 6/10 development seasons. You can't undo decisions easily either. It's one or the other in my opinion and to switch, means radical changes, which can be good or bad.

Personally, I'm okay with whichever way the club goes, doesn't really bother me, I don't live and die by the club and it's decisions.

 

[00VicWard001]

Scott and the club have agreed for him to see out the last year of his contract. Not sure whether they couldn't come to a payout agreement in the end, or whether Scott just decided to honour his last year in the end. Apologies for getting the hopes up of people that want to see him moved on, but the fact is a meeting did occur where Scott and the club discussed an early departure from his contract. That is factual information and I certainly stand by what I reported on here.

Personally, I am happy he is staying - I think even though he's clearly burned out, the man is an absolute professional, and I have no doubt he will give us his full commitment and dedication in what will certainly be his last year at the helm. Unless something drastically changes, this gives us a full year to prepare for a life after Scott. Clarkson, Buckley etc will be available and this gives us time to start assessing our options. Those guys will be hungry after a year out of the game IMO.

In any case, Scott is our man for the next 12-months.

For Clarkson, living in Geelong will pretty much feel like he's living in Tasmania, only that it could happen right away, instead of waiting for 6 years.

 

[Cataholic]

Scott and the club have agreed for him to see out the last year of his contract. Not sure whether they couldn't come to a payout agreement in the end, or whether Scott just decided to honour his last year in the end. Apologies for getting the hopes up of people that want to see him moved on, but the fact is a meeting did occur where Scott and the club discussed an early departure from his contract. That is factual information and I certainly stand by what I reported on here.

Personally, I am happy he is staying - I think even though he's clearly burned out, the man is an absolute professional, and I have no doubt he will give us his full commitment and dedication in what will certainly be his last year at the helm. Unless something drastically changes, this gives us a full year to prepare for a life after Scott. Clarkson, Buckley etc will be available and this gives us time to start assessing our options. Those guys will be hungry after a year out of the game IMO.

In any case, Scott is our man for the next 12-months.

Thanks for the insight ......it's interesting to hear about the machinations behind the scenes.

Ignore anyone who mocks you for sharing it.

 

[My Tilly]

Our list reminds me a lot of our 1989 - 1995 list. Plenty of star power but five or six players who would not get a game in the teams that won the flag.

A lot of similarities:

Andrew Wills --> Gary Rohan
Steven Handley --> Mark Blicavs
Bill Brownless --> Tom Hawkins
Grant Tanner --> Cam Guthrie
David Mensch --> Rhys Stanley
Ronnie Burns --> Gryan Miers

And there is one common trait they all have in common . . . .

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Thanks for the insight ......it's interesting to hear about the machinations behind the scenes.

Ignore anyone who mocks you for sharing it.

Thanks Cataholic. No doubt many thought I made it up, and that's fair enough, but these discussions are quite complex and I thought I would pass on what I knew had occurred. I'd like to think many here can understand that I never go around making up rumours on here. In-fact, to the best of my knowledge, that's the first time I've shared any inside 'info' on here. Appreciate your support.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Appreciate the info and the clarity, and no doubts at all that what you reported was factual. Don't stop sharing and cheers again

Thanks Shadow89 I appreciate that. I wasn't sure whether to post the info initially, and despite others implying I made it up, I know the information was correct so I am contented with sharing what actually happened.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

For Clarkson, living in Geelong will pretty much feel like he's living in Tasmania, only that it could happen right away, instead of waiting for 6 years.

Lets hope he sees it this way. He'd be an amazing get. But I'd also be pretty happy for someone like Buckley to be given a shot too. The man was 90 seconds and a freak goal from Sheed away from being a premiership coach. He built that list after they fell away for a few years. That win against the Tigers in the 2018 prelim was the stuff of legend. I think he's a very good coach and with the right support, I think he'd really be a huge asset.

 

[God Mode]

Is there much star power? You have Cameron and Stewart who are both high-end players still in their prime age bracket. Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood are big names who have performed to a high standard but are very much on their way down. Other than that, it's pretty barren. It's a long way from Melbourne or the Dogs, who have a group of top-end players who will be in their footballing prime for a number of years yet. We are yesterday's news, and our list has reflected that for some years now. We've been acquiring last generation talent and trying to use it to compete with the upper echelon of the current generation, the results of which were laid bare come finals.

You can take Hawkins out of that, but your sentiments are on the money.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Is there much star power? You have Cameron and Stewart who are both high-end players still in their prime age bracket. Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood are big names who have performed to a high standard but are very much on their way down. Other than that, it's pretty barren. It's a long way from Melbourne or the Dogs, who have a group of top-end players who will be in their footballing prime for a number of years yet. We are yesterday's news, and our list has reflected that for some years now. We've been acquiring last generation talent and trying to use it to compete with the upper echelon of the current generation, the results of which were laid bare come finals.

Dont give me this utter craap linking the Dogs with Melbourne

Melb are an outstanding side - and if anyone is primed to win a string of flags its them - and it is probably a god send to - for the competition - because they play exciting attractive football

Melb flogged them by 74 pts in GF - the Dogs are a long way off Melb

They were very average against Ess - Dons could have been 4-5 goals up at h/t . Haw beat them comfortably in the 2nd last round. The Tigers earlier in the year with half a team - gave them 3 goals start a h/t - and then killed them

But all you read on big footy is the Dogs the Dogs the Dogs the Dogs

Melb are the Premiers and then you have got daylight to the rest

 

[My Tilly]

Lets hope he sees it this way. He'd be an amazing get. But I'd also be pretty happy for someone like Buckley to be given a shot too. The man was 90 seconds and a freak goal from Sheed away from being a premiership coach. He built that list after they fell away for a few years. That win against the Tigers in the 2018 prelim was the stuff of legend. I think he's a very good coach and with the right support, I think he'd really be a huge asset.

Buckley's terrible!
Look at all the talent he has to work with since taking over from Malthouse.
Arguably the best ruck in the game. Top 3 midfield for many years on end. A dynamic back line and has some of the best small forwards you could only dream off.
He has never had an elite key forward to work with. Travis Cloke was the closest thing and the game quickly passed him by four years into the Buckley era

Buckley would be no different to Scott.
Two champion players who took over great playing lists.
You watch how well Collingwood go next year with a much better tactical coach at the helm.

 

[catempire]

Scott and the club have agreed for him to see out the last year of his contract. Not sure whether they couldn't come to a payout agreement in the end, or whether Scott just decided to honour his last year in the end. Apologies for getting the hopes up of people that want to see him moved on, but the fact is a meeting did occur where Scott and the club discussed an early departure from his contract. That is factual information and I certainly stand by what I reported on here.

Personally, I am happy he is staying - I think even though he's clearly burned out, the man is an absolute professional, and I have no doubt he will give us his full commitment and dedication in what will certainly be his last year at the helm. Unless something drastically changes, this gives us a full year to prepare for a life after Scott. Clarkson, Buckley etc will be available and this gives us time to start assessing our options. Those guys will be hungry after a year out of the game IMO.

In any case, Scott is our man for the next 12-months.

I level no criticism at you personally. I share information here that I get from sources and sometimes it’s right and sometimes wrong.

You say they agreed for him to see out the final year, that’s one thing. But all the signs were that an extension was also coming. I can’t find the quote but Hocking said at one point it would be his “first order of business”. Are you saying that plan has been shelved?

 

[you pick one]

Lets hope he sees it this way. He'd be an amazing get. But I'd also be pretty happy for someone like Buckley to be given a shot too. The man was 90 seconds and a freak goal from Sheed away from being a premiership coach. He built that list after they fell away for a few years. That win against the Tigers in the 2018 prelim was the stuff of legend. I think he's a very good coach and with the right support, I think he'd really be a huge asset.

I'd be happy with Bucks I've had my share of fun over the journey with Nathan no flags but I see him as a decent coach hungry as all **** and a real mans man,bit worried Clarko might just see it as easy money and nothing to prove.