Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[kickazz]

Funny when we win no one says a word but when we lose...
F&#KIN Game Plan!!!!

Nah this year in particular we had poor wins against the Saints, Blues and Pies that did little to instil us with confidence that the game plan could crank it up the gears required for big finals.

 

[kickazz]

He's/We've had pretty much a controlling footy game plan from 2011 and i'd say prior to an extent with minor and major tweaks along the way depending on the cattle we've had on the paddock.

2021 was particularly worse. 19 and 20 we belted more sides and attacked more. Yes it was never Mark Thompson kamikaze, but we did attack over the years more than last year. We would play dynamic forwards like Motlop and Caddy who were threatening, and get the ball to them quickly.

 

[BORIS332]

And what is the implication of this?

Scott wasn't happy with how things were going or vice versa?

Vice versa

 

[AndyMac05]

Scotty is Geelong through and through. The bloke worked for nothing last year and took us to a grand final. He’s not perfect but none of us are. I think we are bloody fortunate to have him. We can all sit back and criticise from afar and in hindsight. None of us can do what we do and if you think you can then put your bloody hand up and do it. Clearly the club has identified issues and are making changes in the coaching ranks. Scotty isn’t one of them. He represent and leads our club fantastically.

 

[Danger handballs we win]

I think it comes down to whether you believe there is such a thing as a game plan that on percentage will win you 60-70% of home and away games but against the best of the best in pressure doesn’t cut it.

I think that exists but I also think if Scotty’s ego isn’t cured by the last month it’s terminal!

I still don’t understand why he needs three more years though.. I see the logic in every pro Scott argument for a one year extension giving him two to go

But If he wouldn’t stay without a guarantee of three years then he isn’t the man for the job!

Strange times - we will be top 6 as always

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[My Tilly]

If you could get Clarkson or Hardwick - and even Hardwick hasn’t shown that he can mould a gameplan that doesn’t revolve around ‘staying in the game and letting the cream rise to the top’ - and full credit to him for doing it - than maybe you could say yeah this is an upgrade but at the moment anyone we replace Scott with is literally at exactly the same starting point as he is: seeing if he can oversee a changing of the guard (a bigger one than he’s already seen)

You did not see much of Richmond 2010-2014?
They were young and in rebuild mode for quite some time. Hardwick always had them playing a very attractive brand of football.

To even lump Chris Scott in the same class as him is somewhat perplexing. He also evolves his list. He played 6 new players this year when they were very much in it to win it.
Unlike Scott heading into season 2022, I have a feeling he will be refreshing their list by playing a lot of the next generation.

 

[Cataholic]

I've always said that Scott is a very good coach. But I've said in the same breath that I think of a lot of his attraction to the club is the way he presents commercially.

We need sponsors. We needed the stands built.
He definitely puts across an impression that we are strong, resilient, and player welfare minded.

So on the back of that, here's something for the people that want him out.
Do you know what relevance the end of this new contract brings?

Fords 99th year.
If he's going ok. Let's say top 5. Do you actually think they'll remove a coach of his standing and presence, and also the longest serving coach at the club before the 100th year?

Scotty is Geelong through and through. The bloke worked for nothing last year and took us to a grand final. He’s not perfect but none of us are. I think we are bloody fortunate to have him. We can all sit back and criticise from afar and in hindsight. None of us can do what we do and if you think you can then put your bloody hand up and do it. Clearly the club has identified issues and are making changes in the coaching ranks. Scotty isn’t one of them. He represent and leads our club fantastically.

Through and through he is.

A great H & A coach he is.

The weight of evidence says he's not a good finals coach however.

Hocking has made the peripheral changes. It remains to be seen if Scott's approach - the most crucial change of all - can be amended.

 

[BUSTER29]

Do it properly and get your hatin’ pants on.

Those pants were well & truly on and buttoned up half way thru the last qtr of Preliminary Final..

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[BUSTER29]

It was a tongue in cheek comment

Yeh mate, as was mine.
I've been on the change the Coach bandwagon for a while.
Unfortunately, looks like its not happening.
Again.

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[PhatBoy]

You did not see much of Richmond 2010-2014?
They were young and in rebuild mode for quite some time. Hardwick always had them playing a very attractive brand of football.

To even lump Chris Scott in the same class as him is somewhat perplexing. He also evolves his list. He played 6 new players this year when they were very much in it to win it.
Unlike Scott heading into season 2022, I have a feeling he will be refreshing their list by playing a lot of the next generation.

Very attractive and unsuccessful football. When they started succeeding they got ugly and won exactly as I said - on 17-18 decent players and a handful of guns, one in particular, getting them across the line. Hardwick wasn’t starting with nothing he was starting with a talented but directionless team.

Scott debuted 4 in a team that was in the top 4 all year. So what?

 

[AndyMac05]

Through and through he is.

A great H & A coach he is.

The weight of evidence says he's not a good finals coach however.

Hocking has made the peripheral changes. It remains to be seen if Scott's approach - the most crucial change of all - can be amended.

I agree but name more than a handful of great finals coaches.Scotty puts us in a position to contend every year. 15 years ago we all would have been begging for a coach to do that.

 

[My Tilly]

Very attractive and unsuccessful football. When they started succeeding they got ugly and won exactly as I said - on 17-18 decent players and a handful of guns, one in particular, getting them across the line. Hardwick wasn’t starting with nothing he was starting with a talented but directionless team.

Scott debuted 4 in a team that was in the top 4 all year. So what?

What do you think Scott was given?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Came in for the melts, not disappointed so far.

Seems no one here likes to give anyone the benefit of the doubt.

For all we know, Chris had to present his plan for the future no different to any coach trying to get a gig - and the club have liked his new ideas that have come at the same time as our existing assistant coaches departed.

We are all so quick to jump to the negative on this forum it's astounding at times.

I'm not Chris Scott's biggest fan but given what I've been seeing happen surrounding GFC at the moment I am keeping an optimistic idea about the next 3 years.

He's been getting the benefit of the doubt for the past 5 years.

 

[Cataholic]

I agree but name more than a handful of great finals coaches.Scotty puts us in a position to contend every year. 15 years ago we all would have been begging for a coach to do that.

We don't really contend though. We've been knocked out with considerable ease for 10 years now.

We were begging for a coach to do the deed for 40 odd years, then Bomber came along.

Exciting, attacking footy got it done, but since then we've invested in slow, hesitant footy, and whilst its made our H & A record look awesome its reduced our finals performance to rubbish.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The biggest, most important change to be had is in Scott's approach and the gameplan he decides to employ.

Whether he changes any of that, or not, remains to be seen.

Most importantly, it has to be one that players are capable of executing under all conditions. No point having a plan that requires precision in a team of poor kicks.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I agree but name more than a handful of great finals coaches.Scotty puts us in a position to contend every year. 15 years ago we all would have been begging for a coach to do that.

We had that 15 years ago, most importantly, we had the cattle too.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Nah this year in particular we had poor wins against the Saints, Blues and Pies that did little to instil us with confidence that the game plan could crank it up the gears required for big finals.

Ummm so without Stewart MOC Parfitt a banged up Danger and maybe a virus hanging around you expected the team to perform to a level to topple the best in September? Seriously?

2021 was particularly worse. 19 and 20 we belted more sides and attacked more. Yes it was never Mark Thompson kamikaze, but we did attack over the years more than last year. We would play dynamic forwards like Motlop and Caddy who were threatening, and get the ball to them quickly.

Dynamic forwards like Motlop and Caddy?? lol Yep you lost me right there. Sorry. Cheers

 

[kickazz]

Ummm so without Stewart MOC Parfitt a banged up Danger and maybe a virus hanging around you expected the team to perform to a level to topple the best in September? Seriously?



Dynamic forwards like Motlop and Caddy?? lol Yep you lost me right there. Sorry. Cheers

Well that's what it's come to, we just don't have that small forward scoring threat anymore. And I don't know what a virus in September has to do with poor H&A games against Carlton and Collingwood

 

[00VicWard001]

I will see rolling out the same gameplan or even a slightly tweaked one in 2022 as an ego issue.

Too many variables to provide a clear picture.

If we didn’t have illness, had Stewart back, O’Connor, Parfitt and we got the same smashing - sure you could say - this game plan doesn’t work.

But unfortunately, we just don’t know. I’m sure the coaches and internal experts have a better idea, but even they may be struggling because of how Geelong limped into that game.

If they run the plan again, it may be because they think it works and hair failed due to unexpected events outside of their control. And yes, ego is involved - as it should be. however, the coaches are very data driven too. Especially CS.

If we see wholesale changes - then that would confirm that the data does not support the chances of success.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Well that's what it's come to, we just don't have that small forward scoring threat anymore. And I don't know what a virus in September has to do with poor H&A games against Carlton and Collingwood

poor? they never got outta 3rd gear Vs Carlton & Collingwood and didn’t need to.
as for small forwards kicking goals… we have big forwards kicking goals. What we need is mids that kick goals.

 

[PhatBoy]

What do you think Scott was given?

And what did he do with it? Remind me because you seem to have forgotten

 

[My Tilly]

And what did he do with it? Remind me because you seem to have forgotten

You just said Hardwick was handed a talented team and the main reason why they have been successful is because they hang around in matches before 'the cream rises to the top'.
If only Scott's talented teams in recent years could do something similar instead of getting blown out of the park and game over by halftime.

Just imagine actually being in the game heading into the last quarter.

Isaac Smith said it best, the most embarrassing game he has ever been apart of. That coming from a person who only knows what winning and success means.

 

[Stab Pass]

You just said Hardwick was handed a talented team and the main reason why they have been successful is because they hang around in matches before 'the cream rises to the top'.
If only Scott's talented teams in recent years could do something similar instead of getting blown out of the park and game over by halftime.

Just imagine actually being in the game heading into the last quarter.

Isaac Smith said it best, the most embarrassing game he has ever been apart of. That coming from a person who only knows what winning and success means.

Oh like when we were 2 pts down at 3 qtr time in the the 2020 Grand Final?????

 

[My Tilly]

Oh like when we were 2 pts down at 3 qtr time in the the 2020 Grand Final?????

Oh please tell me if we can have 16 minute quarters and 17 rounds a year for the next two years of Scott's contract extension. I will take back everything I ever said about the bloke. Just as long as we stick with mature oldies and the laws of the game are completely compromised.

I loved listening to you lot this year when we were firing on all cylinders and hit round 17 as premiership favourites. Always knew we'd drop off the face off the earth once the finals began

 

[foodles05]

You did not see much of Richmond 2010-2014?
They were young and in rebuild mode for quite some time. Hardwick always had them playing a very attractive brand of football.

To even lump Chris Scott in the same class as him is somewhat perplexing. He also evolves his list. He played 6 new players this year when they were very much in it to win it.
Unlike Scott heading into season 2022, I have a feeling he will be refreshing their list by playing a lot of the next generation.

I think you may have embarrassed yourself a bit there by highlighting a ridiculous anti scott bias. Scott transitioned an entire dynasty list and kept us in Premlims and GF's almost every single year despite losing champions year in year out. I mean you literally can't get a more complete example of transitioning an entire list of that quality (which is always the hardest as hawthorn and brisbane have shown) than scott and the list management have done since he took over in 2011.