The only thing that is measurable is premierships - how well a coach 'manages' players etc is difficult to accurately measure IMO since it's likely to vary person to person.
Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes
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I think it’s still measurable. How many players do we get actively asking to leave the club? Particularly guys who’s sole motivation to leave isn’t more game time?
How many scandals do our players find themselves in? Aside from the possibility of a pissed Jeremy Cameron breaking a cow’s leg and having to get it put down, our off field standards are sky high. That owes something to lots of people but it starts with Scott.
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He was the man most blamed for Geelong’s problems. He ended up being the solution
He was the man most blamed for Geelong’s problems. He ended up being the solutionwww.foxsports.com.au
Great writeup.
Puts forward a case that Scott is a more successful coach than Bomber and other coaching legends - just a matter if you define success solely through premierships.
Personally, I think winning two premierships over a decade apart with totally different teams while maintaining an insane win% throughout is convincing enough.
Add to the fact that over the Selwood/Scott era, Geelong has turned into a real destination club renowned for its culture. If Scott is good enough for Selwood, he's good enough for me.
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It would be amazing and well deserved if he can coach this side to another flag before he finishes …I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility but it would cement him as one of the all time greats imo
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I never went to the point of potting Chris Scott as generally over the years where we fell down, we were still a competitive beast against the likes of clubs like Carlton, Essendon, NM, etc to which a few of my friends follow so I felt in general I had much to be grateful for in terms of which team I followed.
I also had to question - if not Chris Scott, who? There are no guarantees as some of the clubs I just mentioned have shown that simply turfing your coach will result in a replacement destined for success.
Admittedly, I lost faith in 2020 post GF and even at the end of last year, lost the faith. Not in Chris but in the club in general. Chris is not 100% of the club.
The fact that Chris, the club and whomever involved had the ability to reflect, review and adjust things in the right direction is something that needs to be truly highlighted. Until it is written, we won't know all the ins and outs of this.
This has truly cemented Chris Scott's position now of a man who deserves and commands respect and he surely has mine!
Also; I would also just like to highlight the maturity and the way he has actually changed over time. Listening to him speak this year and over the past couple of days have shown what an inspirational leader of his team he is. In my opinion, of course.
I also had to question - if not Chris Scott, who? There are no guarantees as some of the clubs I just mentioned have shown that simply turfing your coach will result in a replacement destined for success.
Admittedly, I lost faith in 2020 post GF and even at the end of last year, lost the faith. Not in Chris but in the club in general. Chris is not 100% of the club.
The fact that Chris, the club and whomever involved had the ability to reflect, review and adjust things in the right direction is something that needs to be truly highlighted. Until it is written, we won't know all the ins and outs of this.
This has truly cemented Chris Scott's position now of a man who deserves and commands respect and he surely has mine!
Also; I would also just like to highlight the maturity and the way he has actually changed over time. Listening to him speak this year and over the past couple of days have shown what an inspirational leader of his team he is. In my opinion, of course.
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Amazing interview with Scott on AFL360 now.
Admits he approached Danger, Selwood and other senior players after last year’s prelim and asked if they still had faith in him as senior coach. Said he would have walked away if they said no.
Admits he approached Danger, Selwood and other senior players after last year’s prelim and asked if they still had faith in him as senior coach. Said he would have walked away if they said no.
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Loosest I've ever seen him. This is great.
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Says A LOT about the character of the bloke.
Hard to think that Chris Scott has now coached more games then Thompson, and has the most wins of any Geelong coach all time.
Weird. Feels like Bomber Thompson has coached more games.
Scott is still only 46. Crazy
Weird. Feels like Bomber Thompson has coached more games.
Scott is still only 46. Crazy
Get your POV on premierships.
Another thing to consider could be to measure a human based on the impact they have on others. Joel and Chris seem to be in a class of thier own in terms of positive impact on people. Naturally.could say the same for other peeps at other clubs, but hey, I am biased and ours are the best.
The human element of this flag is very moving and has a multiplying effect.
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I think he has always been an inspirational leader, it's just for a lot of supporters on here that jarred or didn't resonate with continued disappointment. The "change" is possibly as much to do with our own relief... although I do admit CS would have grown in many ways since 2011. We all have, though.
One of the common criticisms was that the club just wanted top 4 each year, keep memberships up, but never actually require the effort to truly "threaten". Contend without ever really exerting.
Watching the players and CS before, during, after the game and in the days following, it's clear how ridiculous that was.
He spoke on 360 about the toll on the relationship with his daughter that being a driven coach has taken. His plan that is now clear in hindsight and that the coaches and club knew may never pay off.
I know I said many times on here and in this thread (probably each of Parts 1 through 5) that CS and the players want success far more than we do...
However, I did also say maybe we need "a new voice"... which in hindsight is sort of a nothing statement, plucked from what felt like purgatory to us, but would have been heaven to clubs like Essendon and Carlton.
Perspective can easily be lost.
And they ultimately got that success they were striving for. Seeing Selwood's emotions, seeing Hawkin's emotions... Dangerfield, Blicavs, Guthrie. Yet the QF final shows how close we could have been to another year of "not again!"
Such fine margins between success and failure. But it was never the desire or effort.
These are hard to win, and again - it was never lack of desire or effort. It was never "accepting mediocrity". I think we now see no one at our club "accepts mediocrity".
Absolutely ridiculous that there was a sort of attitude on here for years that "if only the club wanted a flag as much as WE do"...
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Been thinking of the eternal question…. Is Scott better of a coach than bomber?
Different teams at their disposal but the longevity and evolution, player management and culture I can’t go past Scott as geelongs best ever coach.
I thought he was always a good coach but really didn’t pay attention to how good until this year. I didn’t give them a chance this year. Boy he showed me. It was a Masterclass in player management, evolution and getting every bit of improvement out of every player on the list. Scott is the MVP of 2022 for mine.
Ridiculous that there were continual calls to replace him (I was in the camp pre-season as many others were). I just couldn’t see anymore improvement
Different teams at their disposal but the longevity and evolution, player management and culture I can’t go past Scott as geelongs best ever coach.
I thought he was always a good coach but really didn’t pay attention to how good until this year. I didn’t give them a chance this year. Boy he showed me. It was a Masterclass in player management, evolution and getting every bit of improvement out of every player on the list. Scott is the MVP of 2022 for mine.
Ridiculous that there were continual calls to replace him (I was in the camp pre-season as many others were). I just couldn’t see anymore improvement
I can't say I'd ever heard much about his family or whether he even had one. I thought it was great that he had his daughter with him at the parade and how she spoke, just another one of those wholesome things that was added to the overall wholesome weekend really.
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I would of said yes prior to the win on Saturday. Even though he had one less flag than Bomber.Been thinking of the eternal question…. Is Scott better of a coach than bomber?
Different teams at their disposal but the longevity and evolution, player management and culture I can’t go past Scott as geelongs best ever coach.
I thought he was always a good coach but really didn’t pay attention to how good until this year. I didn’t give them a chance this year. Boy he showed me. It was a Masterclass in player management, evolution and getting every bit of improvement out of every player on the list. Scott is the MVP of 2022 for mine.
Ridiculous that there were continual calls to replace him (I was in the camp pre-season as many others were). I just couldn’t see anymore improvement
There is no doubt that he is easily better IMO. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Bomber, but that freak team he had at his disposal was a huge reason for our success.
As good as this year's team is, I truly believe we don't win the flag this year without Scott. Yes he has made mistakes over the years, but he has learnt from them and continued to evolve and adapt. The game plan was elite and the way he managed players and ensured we peaked at the right time, that's a credit to him and our medical department.
Despite what many believe here, I don't think our team has been good enough for the most part over the years. I agree with our presidents comments after the game, previously we have had too many holes in various areas. But Scott still found a way to get us into a position to contend.
As much as our finals heartbreak has been hard for us fans, what we have seen is strong membership levels, great crowd attendances (aside from COVID obviously) and us remaining a destination club due to not just our location but our ability to contend every year.
We have to attribute a lot of our strong offield position to Scott, and after years in the making we have again achieved the ultimate under his leadership.
He is a great coach and his appointment at the end of 2010 was a stroke of genius by Cook and Costa.
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What a magnificent read.He was the man most blamed for Geelong’s problems. He ended up being the solution
He was the man most blamed for Geelong’s problems. He ended up being the solution
I think bomber is overrated like you said because of the extremely strong team he had even though he was responsible for building this team.
I think his time at bombers proved he relied on that strong cats team and didn’t really have plan b or c (like 2010 proved). good coach though but yeah Scott is better and probably was even before this year. I think he has continually evolved as a coach, admitted failure and rolled with it.
I had this convo before round 1 and said he was statistically the most successful Geelong coach but that second flag was an asterisk on his record. Not anymore.
I agree with the good points about Scott but you're underselling Bomber. The team were absolutely in no man's land when he arrived. Yet not low enough to be given a golden ticket collection of top 5 picks over several years - unlike other coaches before creating dynasty teams etc.
You can say he had a super talented list but he and his assistants developed most from below top 20 picks where they easily could've gone either way. Wells simply got even better at finding value late in the draft or via obscure means later on.
Building a team from scratch that can go on to win 2 flags (should've been 3 but for one disastrous day) and play some of the best footy in the club's history while finally breaking our drought - it deserves so much credit. And the core squad to go on and win a third - I still give Scott all the credit in the world for that but appreciate it also as an after glow of Bombers legacy.
Around 2006 Thompson was perhaps around his Scott 2021 moment. Not age profile wise for the list but as far as was he going to be able to take this group to glory. He did it and sometimes we take that for granted because "it was a team of superstars" in hindsight.
Yes Thompson got two generational father sons in Ablett and Scarlett, then the early stages of another in Hawkins. But Scott got the peak years of the latter, plus Selwood, and a club now immersed in success heading into the free agency era where the dream of keeping a club at the top was possible.
So the era of success I think lands Danger, Cameron and a few others to give Scott that second chance at glory. Which again, he's done a magnificent job of. But my point is the two go hand in hand and we should just gladly look at the whole package of the past 20 odd years. With two incredible coaches and teams around them, with dedication of the players to match, we get 4 flags and 6 GFs, almost constantly thereabouts and a club now affiliates with success + top notch culture.
I give my thanks to both of them equally.
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just a reminder that Scott gave up his entire 2020 wage so that GFC could keep a few of the peripheral staff on the books
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I have thought he was already our greatest coach in my lifetime- 66 today!- and this premiership is perfect icing on the Cake!.Been thinking of the eternal question…. Is Scott better of a coach than bomber?
Different teams at their disposal but the longevity and evolution, player management and culture I can’t go past Scott as geelongs best ever coach.
I thought he was always a good coach but really didn’t pay attention to how good until this year. I didn’t give them a chance this year. Boy he showed me. It was a Masterclass in player management, evolution and getting every bit of improvement out of every player on the list. Scott is the MVP of 2022 for mine.
Ridiculous that there were continual calls to replace him (I was in the camp pre-season as many others were). I just couldn’t see anymore improvement
CS is more than a coach. He is the voice of Geelong. He commands respect without demanding. Most true footy supporters of other clubs really appreciate his greatness, and others who dislike him admit their envy.
I love what he said about Selwood- how great it is to coach a team with Joel as the Captain.
Happy birthday!
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I was just thinking a bit more.
People say going b2b is hard enough. Scott can put forward the case that two premierships 11 years apart is even harder. Still not a shade on Sheedy tho who won as coach in 1984 and then again in 2000 for a total of 4 across the whole period.
Imagine if we went b2b next year tho. That surely puts him at least past Hardwick (lol, the Tiger melts) and reaching Clarko-levels (racism scandal aside).
None of this "lightning in a 2-3 year bottle" built by draft picks and then steep drop off either. Just sustained excellence for over a decade.
People say going b2b is hard enough. Scott can put forward the case that two premierships 11 years apart is even harder. Still not a shade on Sheedy tho who won as coach in 1984 and then again in 2000 for a total of 4 across the whole period.
Imagine if we went b2b next year tho. That surely puts him at least past Hardwick (lol, the Tiger melts) and reaching Clarko-levels (racism scandal aside).
None of this "lightning in a 2-3 year bottle" built by draft picks and then steep drop off either. Just sustained excellence for over a decade.
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The level of preparation has been incredible. Players with injury have been more team than strictly needed, mid-season block for danger, weeks off for basically every 30+ somehow all without compromising game results.
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