Past #20: Drew Petrie - NM '01-'16 (324gms/428gls) - WCE '17 (8gms/16gls) - thx for everything Drew

[Thewlis Dish]

He had a similar season to 2003 statistically, but obviously after 2003 he has been graded more harshly, and rightly so.

 

[RooRuckle]

In regarding his Tackle count...he was rated 3rd highest got Kangaroos in 2004.

Further evidence to boost the argument

 

[out_we_come]

1 Contested Mark

Fora tall forward of his size not good enough

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Two contested marks average isn't too great for a tall forward either, but I think that was the point - his 2004 year (generally considered ordinary) wasn't much different to his 2003 year (generally considered stellar), except in much higher expectations.

 

[X-Gen]

I guess the general perception is that most of us expected Drew to continue steadily improving (non necessarily comparing him to Carey). I also would expect a key position player to gather more than one contested mark per game and contribute more than 20 something goals.

Having said that, Drew is young and I don't believe his application to the game can be questioned. I love his hardness at the ball and player and truly believe that he will become a great player for our club. We just need to give him time to develop.

 

[benno87]

He really came together in the last few rounds and began playing more competitive football at CHF, and I know this is where he should play. The stats really say that he hasn't improved in 2003, which is slightly dissapointing but not dreadful, 2005 is an important year in terms of Drew's leadership capabilities, and his ability to lead the team from CHF.

I feel confident he can break the competition open in 2005 much like Harris and Wells did this season.

 

[mav-1]

As a 20 year old kid, 2003 stats look good. As a VC, 2004 stats don't. Its all about improvement and he has gone backwards. I love the Dish but if he displays the same sort of form early next year he may find himself getting a run with Port. Time to stand tall.

 

[Star]

As a 20 year old kid, 2003 stats look good. As a VC, 2004 stats don't. Its all about improvement and he has gone backwards. I love the Dish but if he displays the same sort of form early next year he may find himself getting a run with Port. Time to stand tall.

Yep, agree.

My fav player at seasons start, just looking for improvement and possibly went backwards 5% compared to 2003.

One contested mark less per game equals 20 odd for the season. As most of these result with a shot at goal the long bow would be to say this 'minor' stat cost us about 10 goals this year.

That said, I also think his 1% are a great example to others. He is busting his gut out there and I think he will only get better.

 

[Darky]

Why do people still compare him to Wayne Carey ??

Who compares him to Wayne Carey?

For the record, Carey didn't show more than spasmodic form until late 1992, at which time he was a few months past 21. Drew will be 22 in October.

 

[mightymax]

Who compares him to Wayne Carey?

For the record, Carey didn't show more than spasmodic form until late 1992, at which time he was a few months past 21. Drew will be 22 in October.

you have to be joking !

carey was a gun from the first season he played.

sure he was inconsistent being young and playing in a crap team. but drew's best form has never been as good as carey, even if we only count carey of 89 to 92.

 

[Darky]

you have to be joking !

carey was a gun from the first season he played.

sure he was inconsistent being young and playing in a crap team. but drew's best form has never been as good as carey, even if we only count carey of 89 to 92.

Read my post again. Then read yours.

"Sure he was inconsitent being young" - which is what I said (that's what spasmodic means)

The first season Carey played, he played four games. Got injured a few times, and dropped. Yeah, gun season that. Nobody doubted how good he would become, but you're arguing that results are results, and after 4 games Carey didn't have them on the board.

Carey from 89-92 was average. Showed potential, but played a lot of footy at CHB, andwhen forward was in a potent three man forward line with Longmire and McCarthy. It wasn't until late 1992 that he started taking the better defenders.

If Carey's 90-92 form was so great, you'd think we'd have made the finals, what with Longmire kicking 98, 91 and 64 goals as well.

 

[mightymax]

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If Carey's 90-92 form was so great, you'd think we'd have made the finals, what with Longmire kicking 98, 91 and 64 goals as well.

can you get carey's stats between 90-92 ?

i wonder if they were as impressive as

drew petrie - 2003 (2 contested marks)
2004 - (1 contested mark)

you have a short memory. whats your next post. comparing shane clayton to keith greig ?

 

[Tas]

The only comparisons between Drew and Wayne is... they both played for the NMFC.

As players they are poles apart, both in style of play and effectiveness.

I was harsh on Drew this year, not because I expected him to play like the Duck, but because he went backwards this year after standing up and taking the responsibility of being a team leader.

Team leaders lead by example.

His attack on the ball was often shyte, his reading of the play was crap aswell. Don't give me he had the best defender this year, he played on a number of donkey defenders this year and he made them look like AA defenders.

I have no problem whatsoever when he is beaten by a good player, but to get his pants pulled down by some very average defenders was extremely disappointing this year. Don't worry, he was far from alone, most of our team just did not come out to play against the crap opposition and we made them look good. It was not just Drew, but I have more expectation on team leaders than I do of those who are not.

I am very disappointed with ALL our team leaders this year. Too often we saw no backbone. I know Drew is young but if he is not ready for that responsibility then don't take it.

In 2003 most of his marks were within goal kicking range, in 2004 he got a lot of marks chasing stats in the midfield, be it contested or not those marks in that place of the ground are almost useless from our CHF. If you look at the statistics alone you can make anyone look better than they actually were.

In the games where we needed to put scoreboard pressure on the opposition he wasn't doing the job most of the time. He should be a 40-50 goal player, 20 is very poor given we only have 2 tall forwards most of the time and the ball IS directed at him a fair amount of the time, it was just turned over far too often and far too easily.

I'm hoping for a much improved 2005. We just do not have the luxury of carrying ineffective players throughout the whole year, we do not have enough players playing at their best to carry so many underperforming players.

 

[Darky]

can you get carey's stats between 90-92 ?

W.Carey 1992 - 21 games 278k, 155m, 107hb, 46 goals
W.Carey 1991 - 14 games 132k, 84m, 56hb, 27 goals

Your point?

You keep pointing out a comparison between Petrie and Carey is ridiculous, but nobody has made that comparison.

 

[Scottroo]

For what its worth id strip Drew of the DVC, on a temporary basis, too much pressure on the kid i reckon, give it to someone like rawlings or harris and let drew just run around and get his hands on the ball for port melbourne, we know what hes capable of but i just dont think he can handle the pressure of the job...

thoughts?

 

[RooBoyz24]

Hi guys been busy at work the last 2 days since the bad defeat.I was not happy with drews game but he has to put his over the ball and put in.I saw him pull out durin the game and i was ropable.I hope he finds form soon cause we need him playin well.My advise to u drew do the hard things.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I don't think stripping it now would be a great idea, would only dent his confidence more. In hindsight we gave him the title too early, but what's done is done.

 

[gokangas]

Drew had a bad game but he wasn't alone.
He is looking more and more like Corey McKernan - thats a worry.
Can't strip him of the DVC as it would send a bad message. Just hope the club is able to help him through a rough patch and let his footy do the talking.

 

[RooBoyz24]

The thing that is worrying me about Drew is that Sav is in his last year and we need him playin well to take over some of the load.Even last yr he did nothin and i think this yr he has to show wat he can do for this footy club.

 

[Grendel]

An outsiders two cents. Has he been tried at CHB? From what I was watching of the game, he seemed unsure of when or where to lead to. Given what I've seen of him in the past that was surprising to me. Always struck me as a very natural forward who knew his way around.

Maybe a stint down back being led to the ball rather than leading for it might be worth a go for a short while til he gets some confidence back in his hands (which again on what I've previously seen were very clean normally).

Fwiw we've done similar in the past with blokes like Holland (back when he had decent shoulders and could play) even Brereton way back mid-eighties was given (and played very well) a spell down back.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

The thing that is worrying me about Drew is that Sav is in his last year and we need him playin well to take over some of the load.Even last yr he did nothin and i think this yr he has to show wat he can do for this footy club.

Deadset?

 

[Dingster]

An outsiders two cents. Has he been tried at CHB? From what I was watching of the game, he seemed unsure of when or where to lead to. Given what I've seen of him in the past that was surprising to me. Always struck me as a very natural forward who knew his way around.

A few people here are of similar mind, but I don't think that's the answer. Drew has been tried there against a couple of hacks in Riewoldt and Brown and he does his best, but he's not quick enough in both body and mind to cover the better players. He'll bust his rear end, but that's not going to take us deep into the finals in the future. Maybe a run in the ruck is his best bet (outside a run with Port), but he'd have to come off the bench imo as Hale is our future there.

The other issue with Drew at CHB is that Leigh Brown could be one of the better CHBs in the comp. He reads the play well and also has an attacking side to his game that you need these days from that possie. I'd prefer to stabilise the defence if possible.

 

[True_Roo]

IMO it's time to give him a run in the ruck

 

[Moti]

A few people here are of similar mind, but I don't think that's the answer. Drew has been tried there against a couple of hacks in Riewoldt and Brown and he does his best, but he's not quick enough in both body and mind to cover the better players. He'll bust his rear end, but that's not going to take us deep into the finals in the future. Maybe a run in the ruck is his best bet (outside a run with Port), but he'd have to come off the bench imo as Hale is our future there.

The other issue with Drew at CHB is that Leigh Brown could be one of the better CHBs in the comp. He reads the play well and also has an attacking side to his game that you need these days from that possie. I'd prefer to stabilise the defence if possible.

Great post!

It seems a lot of people forget that while Drew tried hard, Reiwoldt took 17 marks while Brown took 10. Either forward or ruck for Drew and at the moment, the ruck is the only place I would have him.

 

[Z_K]

Let me say, I don't he is a CHB at all.

But, I thought was pretty good against Brown. I thought he was very good early when the game was semi-hot, and did much better than i expected in some one on ones. Of course, when they got on top he was in trouble.

Physically, he simply couldn't go with Reevoldt.