Should have been Lance Franklin.
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2004 AFL Draft - Pick 3.
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Well it is a good argument. A forward that is tall and presents is what we need to go in the right direction. It just seems we have many players that are midfielders and not enough KPP. I have not seen much of Griffen so I would not say the pick is a mistake yet.
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Bentleigh said:
I shall reserve judgement until I see Ryan Griffen play.
But yes, we need talls, and we need them badly.
Does anyone know if Nick Reiwoldt or Chris Judd have little brothers around 16-17 years of age and can play a bit as it looks like we'll have 2 of the top 1/2 dozen picks in the draft again. Lets hope Adrian Anderson doesn't scrap the priority pick system before we completly bottom out.
Bentleigh said:
Absolutely
Does not matter how good griffen is that fact is we needed quality talls all we did was take punt on Williams at 6 (do not mind this at least he was a tall)
and another tall Wells at pick 22
Should have taken franklin, williams and mid fielder at 22. I know we took walsh at 4 in 2002 and might have got a good midfileldeR but that was just a bad selection. We need quality talls we have plenty of talls but not much quality that is why Bandy keeps getting a game
shoulda coulda woulda,
don't start on this just yet, young griff is alright, if he turns out to be the next buckley and we didn't pick him then you'd all be spewin.
He's alright he starred at werribee according to the paper, so it may not be long before he shows us his stuff. Just imagine cooney griffen and ray for the future, could be one hell of a midfield. Sure we don't have kpp, but i think we can find them, as long as we stop playing bandy and try some young guns.
don't start on this just yet, young griff is alright, if he turns out to be the next buckley and we didn't pick him then you'd all be spewin.
He's alright he starred at werribee according to the paper, so it may not be long before he shows us his stuff. Just imagine cooney griffen and ray for the future, could be one hell of a midfield. Sure we don't have kpp, but i think we can find them, as long as we stop playing bandy and try some young guns.
oh yeah i believe reiwoldt does have a younger cousin (correct me if i'm wrong) down in tasmania, blonde locks and all, apparently he's alright.
don't know about judd, they way we are going maybe his sister might be alright for us.
don't know about judd, they way we are going maybe his sister might be alright for us.
Great to see the illuminati on here comparing a guy who has played three games to a guy who has played none. Surely there is enough pornography on the internet to keep you otherwise occupied.
Bentleigh said:
Maybe he should have been number 1!!!!
More worried about the number 4 draft pick of 2002 at this stage.
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Turtleman3 said:
Dont be daft boy.
Walsh Bay said:
Want to send him over to Richmond?
So we were suppose to draft the supposed 5th best player over what many clubs thought was the best player?
I think anyone that says that can't see beyond yesterdays loss.
I think anyone that says that can't see beyond yesterdays loss.
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Please wait Grif will be special. Whether we should have gone for key position only Jade, Tim Walsh, Skipper, Tom Williams, Wil, Bowden, Morgan, Street, Wight can tell us that. By the way I keep an eye for Cam Wight I reckon he will come good.
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ErnieSigley said:
No. Thats not my logic behind it at all
Ray looks a good player whilst Murphy, Hahn, Gilbee, Giansiracusa and co. will be the clubs engine room for several years to come. Cooney is going to be an outstanding footballer. The bloke which will be a class above.
After watching yesterdays game I thought this young core was solid whilst KPP is you major problem. Street simply isnt AFL standard, Bandy is poor and now 30. Its unlikly Minson will be an A grade player. Walsh has huge question marks all over him.
Darcy, whilst great is also 30. That only leaves Grant which while a champion must be comming towards a end and Rawlings which is not getting any younger (27/28yoa).
Doggies have a good, maturing future midfield but KPP which I dont rate all that highly.
I thought Franklin would have been just what was needed, even if Griffin does turn out Buckley like.
If I was in charge of Doggies list management, and God willing some day I will be i'd have gone Franklin @ 3, Williams @ 6.
My 2 cents.
In time, Griffin will become the "Judd" of last year's draft. He is an elite player, and we are lucky to have both he and Cooney driving our engine room for the next 10-12 years.
Franklin has been impresive, but he has well-known attitude problems, which were the black mark against his name at draft time. Think a younger version of Tarrant. Hawthorn have taken a punt, a good luck to them for doing so.
Franklin has been impresive, but he has well-known attitude problems, which were the black mark against his name at draft time. Think a younger version of Tarrant. Hawthorn have taken a punt, a good luck to them for doing so.
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Sedat! said:
Not Deledio or Tambling?
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doggies said:
Got Franklin writting all over it.
Bentleigh said:Not Deledio or Tambling?
with all due respect I reckon Griffen is a better player that Deledio and a far superior player to Tambling. Franklin is a bit of a wildcard and certainly the type of player we need. I would have been happy to get him at 3 but with Griffen still there I think the logical and correct decision has been made. We need bigger midfielders who have classy disposal and Griffen fits that bill. Williams at 6 will help us in the talls dept anyhow.
Our problems in regards to talls relate a fair bit to trades we have done in the past which I have made a comment on in another thread.
It is the classic question of recruit who you believe is the best or you recruit what you need? I believe we have recruited what we believe is the best availaible which have been mid fielders and we tried to pinch hit and pick up taller players later in the draft with the hope they will be good value.
There seems be a number of threads saying this will work out in the long run
because we are developing a good mid field (no argument here). But I see week after week year after year no tall talented key position players( remember croft and kretuik used give height every week in the backline) now it is no height in the forward line.
Midfielders are important but so are key position players which we have not had for years sunday was just another day where we did not take contested mark in the forward line. If we had a gun tall forward it would improve us to the extent of being a genuine final 8 contender.
Grant was our last gun forward when he was younger and we have not got one now and Williams is the only chance. None of others could possibly make a gun tall forward.
There seems be a number of threads saying this will work out in the long run
because we are developing a good mid field (no argument here). But I see week after week year after year no tall talented key position players( remember croft and kretuik used give height every week in the backline) now it is no height in the forward line.
Midfielders are important but so are key position players which we have not had for years sunday was just another day where we did not take contested mark in the forward line. If we had a gun tall forward it would improve us to the extent of being a genuine final 8 contender.
Grant was our last gun forward when he was younger and we have not got one now and Williams is the only chance. None of others could possibly make a gun tall forward.
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INSIGHT said:
Being a Richmond fan we are in this excat situation nexr draft. My 2 cents:
Bentleigh said:
I haven't seen too much of deledio so i won't talk about him but tambling i've seen and he's a good player, electric and will fit in nicely in the right team. Should be great as long as youv'e got the in and under players to compliment him. He was probably the most obvious player to me that you knew what you were getting in the top portion of the draft. Griffen looked pretty good but looked more of a bucks/hard ruck rover type player. The dogs find a way of kicking goals but it would be nice to have a franklin or roughead that's for sure. I can see why we picked griffen and i'm sure he'll reward us.
Don't forget we also had pick six so it's hard to say what was going to go after us, hawthorn might have liked someone else and we might of got franklin at six. Any case i think tom williams will be alright. Needs a bit longer that's all
Don't forget we also had pick six so it's hard to say what was going to go after us, hawthorn might have liked someone else and we might of got franklin at six. Any case i think tom williams will be alright. Needs a bit longer that's all
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For what it's worth, l think you guys are on the right track. The one comparison l will make is West Coast Eagles. If you look at their strategy over the past 4-5 years, they stock piled quality midfielders, Fletcher, Cousins, Judd, Kerr, Embley, Butler, Waters, and the list goes on. Once they achieved their core 7-8 midfielders who will be driving their team for the next decade, they went about drafting key position players, the likes of McDougall, Hansen, Staker, Lynch, and the like.
You can see their plan unfolding nicely. The main differenc for them and you guys is that they don't bottom out as their home ground advantage gets them wins which you guys (like most teams) don't have the luxury of.
The next few drafts, l think you will find Eade will go for some exciting young KPP's and within 3-4 yrs have a team comparible to the Weagles of today.
Keep the faith, your club is on the right track for mine.
Wrath
You can see their plan unfolding nicely. The main differenc for them and you guys is that they don't bottom out as their home ground advantage gets them wins which you guys (like most teams) don't have the luxury of.
The next few drafts, l think you will find Eade will go for some exciting young KPP's and within 3-4 yrs have a team comparible to the Weagles of today.
Keep the faith, your club is on the right track for mine.
Wrath
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