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I am amending this this after basically everything of significance ended in 2008 (i.e. drafts / lists lodgements / etc.)

1. Geelong - I'd be silly to pick them elsewhereHas happened before.
2. Port Adelaide - 2008 was a down year without much cause.... Don't underestimate Josh Carr - (if & ) when he comes back to Port, expect Choco to make the best use of him. Chad Cornes was injured and Tredrea was rested in quite a few games. Add that to Travis Boak / Steven Salopek / Shaun Burgoyne / # 4 pick, and you have the biggest upset of 2009 staring on your faces. It is also worth noting most of the games lost were due to fade outs.
3. Bulldogs - Status Quo
4. Hawthorn – Although they are primed for a fall just on account of a hangover & loss of croad for first half.
5. Adelaide - Porplyzia and others should keep Adelaide in contention if they remain fit. Their age old problem has just been go all out for NAB cup – which is silly considering the past.
6. Carlton - I know some ppl will say Carlton would be higher, but I am still not certain of improvement in Carlton's backline. Expect some big names to have downers.
7. North Melbourne - I tossed between North /Sydney / Carlton for this one. Laidley is crafty and terribly underestimated. You have to remember also that 2008 was the last year of Gold Coast for them. Expect them to improve (yet stay roundabouts in top 8) despite the stupid things said & done during the trade season.
8. Sydney - I've got Sydney in top 8, but only just because of Barry Hall & Paul Roos. They depend a lot on being super fit – let’s see how their injury issues go with their aging stars.
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9. Richmond - I have to change my predictions due to addition of Ben Cousins – however much Richmond improves – I still expect them to make the 9th spot though. The only caveat is how they play against Sydney, North & St Kilda. I reckon they are the weak sides for 2009 – and depending on the results Richmond can sneak in to the 6th – 8th spot.
10. St Kilda - I shake my head and put St Kilda here. Loss of Harvey should ensure a position lower than top 8.
11. Brisbane Lions - First year new coach - hard to see them making the top 8.
12. West Coast - Are away from being back in the top 8 by one good midfielder and one good forward. Will be in contention in 2010. (now even more so with Naitanui & Swift coming along).
13. Fremantle - Good players, bad coaching, terrible current culture. However, 2009 will be a bellwether for 2010 form for them. If they finish strongly, they might be in contention for top 8 in 2010.
14. Essendon - To be honest, I like Matthew Knights. I hope I am proven wrong, but it appears Essendon will be doing a Hawthorn trajectory.
15. Collingwood Another shaky performer. Let's see how Cloke and Rocca go and Collingwood's midfield without Burns. I think this is Malthouse’s last year.
16. Melbourne - Dean Bailey has done little to inspire confidence. Keeping Brad Green was a mistake. It would hve made more sense had they kept Travis Johnstone around as well. But given his departure, they should have got rid of Brad Green as well and gone for a full rebuild. But oh well, Brad Green will retire a good servant of Melbourne.
 
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1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Carlton
4. Bulldogs
5. St Kilda
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Port
9. North
10. Adelaide
11. Sydney
12. West Coast
13. Brisbane
14. Collingwood
15. Essendon
16. Melbourne
 
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1. Bulldogs
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. Hawthorn
5. North Melbourne
6. Collingwood
7. Adelaide
8. St. Kilda
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9. Richmond
10. Port Adelaide
11. Sydney
12. Fremantle
13. Essendon
14. West Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
 

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1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. St Kilda
4. Bulldogs
5. Carlton
6. Adelaide
7. Richmond
8. Collingwood
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9. Sydney
10. Brisbane
11. Essendon
12. Kangaroos
13. Port Adelaide
14. West Coast
15. Fremantle
16. Melbourne
 
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1 - Hawthorn
2 - Bulldogs
3 - Geelong
4 - Adelaide
5 - Carlton
6 - Brisbane
7 - Collingwood
8 - Sydney
9 - St Kilda
10 - Essendon
11 - Richmond
12 - Port Adelaide
13 - Fremantle
14 - Melbourne
15 - North Melbourne
16 - West Coast
 
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1. geelong- they will only lose to collingwood once again
2. hawthorn- premiers from 08 will be up there a few more years
3. western bulldogs- i dont know why i put them there
4. collingwood- they deserve it
5. north melbourne- wildcard
6. sydney- still annoying people for being in the finals once again
7. adelaide- still a good team
8. saint kilda- played good in 2008, deserves another chance

9. carlton- mayb their 3 first draft picks might come to use
10. richmond-give them 1 more year
11. brisbane- does anyone care...... honestly?
12. fremantle-deserves to finish this side of the ladder for all those winnable losses
13. essendon- rebuilding
14. port adelaide- wont have a chance having those westhoff girls prance around
15. west coast- gonna be there for a while
16. melbourne- rebuilding... should start by getting a new coach

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1. hawthorn
2. geelong
3. kangaroos
4. w bulldogs
5. carlton
6. st kilda
7. port
8. adelaide
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9. richmond
10. sydney
11. lions
12. essendon
13. fremantle
14. westcoast
15. collingwood
16. melbourne

GF geelong vs hawks = hawks by 14 points
norm smith = lance franklin
brownlow = joel selwood
coleman = lance franklin goals: 123
 
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1. Hawthorn Hawks
2. Geelong Cats
3. Western Bulldogs
4. Carlton Blues
5. Brisbane Lions
6. Richmond Tigers
7. Collingwood Magpies
8.St Kilda Saints

9. Adelaide Crows
10. North Melbourne Kangaroos
11. Essendon Bombers
12. Sydney Swans
13. West Coast eagle
14. Port Adelaide Power
15. Fremantle
16. Melbourne
 
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1.Hawthorn
2.Geelong
3.Western Bulldogs
4.Carlton
5.St Kilda
6.Richmond
7.Kangas
8.Brisbane

9.Port
10.Collingwood
11.Essendon
12.Sydney
13.Adelaide
14.Fremantle
15.West Coast
16.Melbourne
 
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theres too many pages to read all posts.. so this might have been mentioned. But it is a realistic chance of the final 8 being made up of Victorian teams, wouldnt that be just awesome.

However if things dont go our way..
port, adelaide, sydney and brisbane could all make it. very wide open from 3rd-13th.
 
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Geelong
Hawthorn
St Kilda
Western Bulldog
Collingwood
Essendon
Carlton
Richmond


Adelaide
North Melbourne
West Coast
Brisbane
Fremantle
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Melbourne
 
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was i talking to you? no.
Dude, I'm gonna cut you some slack cause you're probably about nine years old but seriously you can't just come on here and have a go at everyone and personally attack them cause they think your opinion is shithouse or vice versa. If you are older than 16, grow up, if you are younger than 16, pipe down til you get older and have something of value to say on here.
 
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1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. North Melbourne
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Carlton
6. St Kilda
7. Collingwood
8. Richmond
9. Adelaide
10. Essendon
11. Fremantle
12. Port Adelaide
13. Sydney
14. Brisbane
15. Melbourne
16. West Coast
 

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1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. St Kilda
4. Carlton

5. Brisbane
6. Western Bulldogs
7. Freomantle
8. Sydney

9. Richmond
10. Port Adelaide
11. North Melbourne
12. Essendon
13. West Coast
14. Adelaide
15. Collingwood
16. Melbourne
 
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very early prediction, but oh well ill give it a fair crack,
1 hawks
2 cats
3 pies
4 lions
5 saints
6 dogs
7 eagles
8 blues
9 tigers
10 swans
11 freo
12 crows
13 port
14 roos
15 bombers
16 demons

one thing is for sure tigers wont make the eight guarantee that one
 
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Hawthorn
Geelong
St Kilda
Western Bulldogs
Brisbane Lions
Carlton
Sydney
Collingwood

Nth Melbourne
Richmond
Essendon
Fremantle
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
West Coast
Melbourne

Obviously hard to predict and I bet none of us get it right. As the lists stand at this point thats where I would rate them. I notice alot of people are backing Carlton to make it, I would be shattered if this isn't the case, but regardless, we have some exciting times ahead. It feels great that we are nearly back as a heavyweight of the comp. :thumbsu:
 
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I wont even bother with predictions of 1-16.. its almost laughable.. look at any predictions from 1-16 last year to end of this year and almost all would be embarrased.. a few things though

1) I think Carlton are on the up.. definately.. but to suggest a serious top 4 finish is laughable.. They have no defence and minimal up forward options (Shut down Fev and their attack is over).. im still dumbfounded (as much as Carlton supporters will crucify me for this) that they Kept Fev over Kennedy.. Realistically Carlton can be a power in 3.. 4 .. maybe 5 years.. in that time Fev is over.. if youd have kept Kennedy he will be at his prime when Carlton will.. the issue of having no defence is a serious concern though..

2) Just because Hawthorn won the flag does not make them better than Geelong (im sorry to all those who picked Hawks @ #1.. theyre side is unbelievable.. but not better than Geelongs..)

3) Sides such as Sydney, St Kilda etc are in dire trouble as they dont have a side that can win them a flag.. but will struggle to find rebuilding draft picks in coming years due to the GC coming in.. they will finish far and beyond above Essendon.. but have no further potential with their current list

4) Essendon supporters.. You are rating Essendon ridiculously highly (some of you).. To anyone who knows Football understands some of our playing group is unreal.. but they need time not only to develop.. but to play in MATCH conditions along side each other.. 2010 will be a telling year for the club more so than 2009 will..Also.. other supporters rating Essendon in the bottom 2 (or even 4) have got to be joking.. have you ever watched a game of footy?

5) Richmond again is on the up.. but their defence will struggle significantly (not to suggest Essendons wont).. but its an area that is exposing them..ALso... they need a Ruckman fast to make the 8 and actually contribute..

I hope I make some shred of sense to someone.. =P
 
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4) Essendon supporters.. You are rating Essendon ridiculously highly (some of you).. To anyone who knows Football understands some of our playing group is unreal.. but they need time not only to develop.. but to play in MATCH conditions along side each other.. 2010 will be a telling year for the club more so than 2009 will..Also.. other supporters rating Essendon in the bottom 2 (or even 4) have got to be joking.. have you ever watched a game of footy?

5) Richmond again is on the up.. but their defence will struggle significantly (not to suggest Essendons wont).. but its an area that is exposing them..ALso... they need a Ruckman fast to make the 8 and actually contribute..

I hope I make some shred of sense to someone.. =P

Where are Essendon supporters rating their team "ridiculously" highly?

Essendon out of all the teams vying for a top 8 position have the largest scope for improvement because so many of our key players were injured for large portions of the season - not to mention a very large part of the list are =< 23 years of age and naturally will improve

This season from about 4th spot to about 10th there was literally nothing in it, to suggest that rating Essendon as a potential final 8 contender as "ridiculous" is absurd.

Furthermore, suggesting Richmond's defence will struggle is drawing a very long bow. Their defence is the most promising out of all the bottom 8 teams, only injury will see a change to that.
 
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4) Essendon supporters.. You are rating Essendon ridiculously highly (some of you).. To anyone who knows Football understands some of our playing group is unreal.. but they need time not only to develop.. but to play in MATCH conditions along side each other.. 2010 will be a telling year for the club more so than 2009 will..Also.. other supporters rating Essendon in the bottom 2 (or even 4) have got to be joking.. have you ever watched a game of footy?

5) Richmond again is on the up.. but their defence will struggle significantly (not to suggest Essendons wont).. but its an area that is exposing them..ALso... they need a Ruckman fast to make the 8 and actually contribute..

I hope I make some shred of sense to someone.. =P

geez have you ever watched a game of footy? thats the most uninformed statement i have read today are you campaining for Palin?
 
Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Geelong
Western Bulldogs
Hawthorn
Richmond
Sydney
Brisbane Lions
Nth Melbourne
Adelaide

Port Adelaide
St Kilda
Fremantle
Collingwood
Essendon
Carlton
Melbourne
West Coast

The top 3 teams in the comp are easily Geelong Hawthorn and Doggies, Geelong are still by far the best team and will most likely win the flag next year.

Then a group of teams that are fairly even Sydney, Richmond, Brisbane, Nth, Adelaide, Port. Richmond are improving and could finish anywhere from 4th to 8th but defintly not 9th.

I can see Melbourne and West Coast staying down the bottom for another year as I just cant see were the improvement will come from, Carlton are improving but to relient on to few they are one injury from a bottom 4 team. Essendon are the same they have a bad spread of ages and are very susceptible to injuries they have a long way to go IMO and will get worse before they begin to get better.

Just my thoughts so don't get on your high horses because you don't like the truth
 
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Geelong are still by far the best team and will most likely win the flag next year.

Not having a go at you but how do you come to that conclusion?

I can understand when people say Geelong is still a better side, but don’t give me this rubbish that they are miles in front of any other team.
 
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geez have you ever watched a game of footy? thats the most uninformed statement i have read today are you campaining for Palin?

There's just no way that Essendon will finish bottom four if we have a good run with injury
 
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Not having a go at you but how do you come to that conclusion?

I can understand when people say Geelong is still a better side, but don’t give me this rubbish that they are miles in front of any other team.
These are the impartial fans buddy, you and I are biased.
 
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I wont even bother with predictions of 1-16.. its almost laughable.. look at any predictions from 1-16 last year to end of this year and almost all would be embarrased.. a few things though

1) I think Carlton are on the up.. definately.. but to suggest a serious top 4 finish is laughable.. They have no defence and minimal up forward options (Shut down Fev and their attack is over).. im still dumbfounded (as much as Carlton supporters will crucify me for this) that they Kept Fev over Kennedy.. Realistically Carlton can be a power in 3.. 4 .. maybe 5 years.. in that time Fev is over.. if youd have kept Kennedy he will be at his prime when Carlton will.. the issue of having no defence is a serious concern though..

2) Just because Hawthorn won the flag does not make them better than Geelong (im sorry to all those who picked Hawks @ #1.. theyre side is unbelievable.. but not better than Geelongs..)

3) Sides such as Sydney, St Kilda etc are in dire trouble as they dont have a side that can win them a flag.. but will struggle to find rebuilding draft picks in coming years due to the GC coming in.. they will finish far and beyond above Essendon.. but have no further potential with their current list

4) Essendon supporters.. You are rating Essendon ridiculously highly (some of you).. To anyone who knows Football understands some of our playing group is unreal.. but they need time not only to develop.. but to play in MATCH conditions along side each other.. 2010 will be a telling year for the club more so than 2009 will..Also.. other supporters rating Essendon in the bottom 2 (or even 4) have got to be joking.. have you ever watched a game of footy?

5) Richmond again is on the up.. but their defence will struggle significantly (not to suggest Essendons wont).. but its an area that is exposing them..ALso... they need a Ruckman fast to make the 8 and actually contribute..

I hope I make some shred of sense to someone.. =P
Well said :thumbsu:
 
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Well said :thumbsu:

Not really... Our defence is quite good. I'd say it's the best young backline in the league. Mid-field is quite solid too.

Our forward-line needs work, however. Our efficient disposal % needs to go up by a ton. Otherwise, we're alright.
 
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