2009 AFL Ladder Prediction - Not a discussion thread

[Ricketts]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Stkilda
4. Carlton
5. Bulldogs
6. Collingwood
7. Essendon
8. Richmond
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9. North Melbourne
10. Adelaide
11. Sydney
12. West Coast
13. Port Adelaide
14. Brisbane
15. Fremantle
16. Melbourne

 

[Parallel Andy]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

After 22 rounds

1 - Geelong
2 - Hawthorn
3 - Collingwood
4 - Bulldogs
5 - Carlton
6 - St.Kilda
7 - Brisbane
8 - Adelaide
9 - Richmond
10 - Sydney
11 - Kangaroos
12 - Port Adelaide
13 - West Coast
14 - Essendon
15 - Fremantle
16 - Melbourne

 

[Not a Wellman]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1- Hawks
2- Geelong
3- Collingwood
4- Adelaide
5- Essendon
6- Bulldogs
7- Port
8- Brisbane
9- Sydney
10-North
12-St Kilda
13-Carlton
14-Richmond
15-West coast
16-Melbourne

3rd-12th is a lottery, still don't rate rich or Carl, that's because of my hatred towards those clubs.

 

[KissStephanie]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

After Round 22:

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Geelong
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Carlton
6. Fremantle
7. Adelaide
8. Richmond
9. Brisbane
10. St.Kilda
11. Sydney
12. Port Adelaide
13. West Coast
14. North Melbourne
15. Essendon
16. Melbourne

Premiers: Collingwood

 

[SurreyBlue]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Geelong
Carlton
West Coast
Hawthorn
Brisbane
Western Bulldogs
St. Kilda
North Melbourne
Richmond
Essendon
Collingwood
Adelaide
Fremantle
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Melbourne

Geelong is still the team to beat.
North Melbourne will probably make the eight again. I have no idea how or why, but …
West Coast will not tank.
Hawthorn to have the biggest hangover yet. I’m being generous and cautious however.
Sydney will be the biggest losers with Adelaide following.
I have probably overrated my team a little again but I'm allowed too!!! (sticks tongue out to JD)

 

[BLPC08]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Port Adelaide
4. Collingwood
5. Western Bulldogs
6. North Melbourne Kangaroos
7. Carlton
8. Richmond
9. Sydney
10. Adelaide
11. St.Kilda
12. Fremantle
13. West Coast
14. Brisbane Lions
15. Essendon
16. Melbourne

 

[BLUE BLEEDING]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. geelong--{will bounce back}
2. hawthorn--{second best imo}
3. western bulldogs--{no one else looks good in this position}
4. st. kilda--{probably won't happen as they were lucky to be here this year}
5. collingwood--{solid finals team, should be good in 2009}
6. North Melbourne--{can win games even if they were under-maned, shinboners}
7. Carlton--{i think this is fair}
8. Richmond--{they have to make the eight}
9. Sydney--{this is where its hard- placing regulars of finals out of the eight, sydney are a bit old}
10. Adelaide--{same as above except it would not suprise me if they make the eight at all}
11. brisbane--{cant see them making the eight if they didn't this year, i also see coaching difficulties arrising in 2009 for them}
12. Essendon--{i know i will look hateful here but i don't see them passing any of the above teams}
13. port adelaide--{could go higher just not into the eight}
14. Fremantle--{they could go a fraction higher, should stay low though}
15. West Coast--{they are a good team and will get some more good picks before GC17 and tasmania dominate the draft. i think it's smart}
16. Melbourne--{sorry, but you will have some rough days ahead}

 

[RPetterd15]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Richmond
6. Sydney
7. North Melbourne
8. Collingwood
9. St Kilda
10. Adelaide
11. Brisbane
12. Essendon
13. Fremantle
14. Port Adelaide
15. West Coast
16. Melbourne
Premiers- Hawthorns should go back to back but if they don't it will be Geelong
Brownlow- Joel Selwood

 

[nathanfoley]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong
2. North Melbourne
3. St. Kilda
4. Hawthorn
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Adelaide
7. Richmond
8. Collingwood

9. Sydney
10. Brisbane
11. Port Adelaide
12. Carlton
13. Essendon
14. Fremantle
15. Melbourne
16. West Coast
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[force65]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

my 2009 prediction

Geelong
Hawthorn
Collingwood
St Kilda
Carlton
Western Bulldogs
Richmond
Fremantle

North Melbourne
Brisbane
Adelaide
Port Adelaide
Essendon
Sydney
Melbourne
West Coast

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Geelong - Best team in the comp by far
Hawthorn - Another terrific season. Back to back highly probable
W Bulldogs - Good H & A but will fail in the finals
Sydney - Their last good season before their veterans finish. No to flag.
Collingwood- Value for money, but they'll drop games to crap teams
St Kilda - Needs to learn to beat the good teams
Adelaide - Ever consistent. May bat deep in September
Brisbane - Will just make the finals with 12 wins. Still reek of class.

Richmond - Will start the season like a rocket, but fall off dramatically
North Melb - Will beat the rubbish teams, have a horror draw in 2nd half
Port Adel - Will learn to win at AAMI again. 10-11 wins likely
Carlton - Why would they make finals this year if they missed last year?
Fremantle - Massive turnover of list. Will win 1 or 2 more games in 09
Essendon - Will win some games in style, but tend to go off the rails.
West Coast - Clearly the 2nd worst team in the league
Melbourne - Would be negligent to win more than 4 games.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Bulldogs
4. Collingwood
5. Richmond
6. Carlton
7. Adelaide
8. Port
9. St. Kilda
10. Brisbane
11. Kangaroos
12. Sydney
13. West Coast
14. Essendon
15. Freo
16. Melbourne

 

[Swampfox]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong - Still the team that will win the most games but could be found out again if it makes the GF without a gun forward

You would think it will start Favourite

2. Hawthorn - Will improve and be hard to beat in the GF no matter who it might be

3. Adelaide - Expecting improvement in consistency which will find it this high on the ladder and with some luck could play in a GF

4. Western Bulldogs - Won the close games last year without winning the important ones but has enough class to still finish top 4

5. Carlton - Will start their decade of finals appearances this year although lose some games when it shouldnt mainly though a poor defence

6. Richmond - Will win more games than it loses but not finals competitive at this stage , last gasp for Wallace

7. St Kilda - The most underperforming team in the AFL talentwise should still make the 8 and who knows from there

8. Port Adelaide - Dissaponting last year and should win enough games to make the 8 like its talent on the park suggests

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9. Collingwood - Consistently plays above themselves but i think that is going to change this year due to a lack of ball winners and KPP,s

10. Brisbane - Will still win games but not enough to make the 8

11. North Melbourne - Expect it to slide this year as the shinboner myth wont help them this year

12. Essendon - Same as my own team Melbourne but with more class and less clangers

13. Sydney - Expect you guys to slide badly this year but will still be dangerous on their day

14. Fremantle - Will not learn from last year and when the tail stops wagging the dog only then will the penny drop for Mark Harvey

15. West Coast - Dead in the water side i doubt will win many games

16. Melbourne - My team i expect will have less blow outs although will lose most games due to clangers by hand and foot


GF - Geelong
Norm Smith - Gary Ablett Jnr
Brownlow - Luke Hodge
Coleman - Brendan Fevola
Rising Star - Rohan Bail

 

[swans4eva]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Bulldogs
2. Hawthorn
3. Geelong
4.Richmond
5. Carlton
6. St. Kilda
7. Sydney Swans
8. Collingwood
9. Port Adelaide
10. Essedon
11. North Melbourne
12. Brisbane
13. West Coast
14. Adelaide
15. Melbourne
16. Fremantle

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Way too early, but here goes.

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Western Bulldogs
4. North Melbourne
5. Richmond
6. St Kilda
7. Essendon
8. Brisbane

9. Collingwood
10. Adelaide
11. Sydney
12. Port
13. Carlton
14. West Coast
15. Fremantle
16. Melbourne

Geelong and Hawthorn are pretty much certainties. While one or both may drop, you'd be foolish to try and predict that.

The Dogs and North I think are pretty clear cut. Both should be a couple of game clear of Richmond. I think the lack of a key forward will hurt the Dogs, but with another year into Grant et al. they might just wing it. North will always be there or thereabouts.

Richmond are my big improver. Even if they don't get Cousins, or he doesn't give them much, I think that they have too much talent to fall away. Terry saves his job.

St Kilda will be thereabouts again, but the lack of a CHF to free Riewoldt up will hurt them.

Essendon and Brisbane should both improve this year. Essendon with a better run with injuries, and another year under the new coach will improve on last year, and should get some consistancy. Brisbane will have Dalziell playing from the start, as well as Rich into the middle, which means that Travis Johnstone will be able to play forward more, and make the forwardline less two-dimensional. Aaron Cornelius could help that is small bursts as well.

Collingwood don't have enough class around the ground, and grunt on the ball to make the eight. They have some great players like Pendlebury, Davis, Didak et al., but will miss Scott Burns' attack on the ball and leadership, as well as Reece Shaw's (yes, I mean that) gut running off half back. Unless Mick frees Heath Shaw up, clubs will shut down their only run from the backline with relative ease, given that Harry O'Brien will need to help fill the void left by Wakelin's retirement.

Adelaide have a very interesting list. They have some great older players (McLeod, Burton et al.) and some great kids (Dangerfield, Tippet and the like) but they don't have much in the middle. I think that they will drop off for one or two years as the older players wind down, but will pick back up when the kids start to develop. They are the classic example of how to build a list without tanking, but will drop for a couple of years before that happens.

Sydney have some good kids like Veszpremi, but don't have enough. They will start to drop off as Hall, O'Loughlin, Kirk et al. get older but aren't replaced.

Port will improve, but will struggle for talls as Brogan, Lade and Tredrea all head towards retirement. They are the real enigma, as they could finish anywhere.

Carlton still have too many gaps in their list. Their top 6 or so are brilliant, but from there, it really crumbles away. A serious injury to Fev, and they are genuine contenders for a spot in the bottom two.

Fremantle, West Coast and Melbourne are all improving with some great kids, but still need to develop their kids a bit more before they begin to climb the ladder.

I found it really hard to pick an order for each eight, especially the bottom eight. I knew which eight teams I thought would make the finals, and which eight teams I thought would miss, but I struggled with the order. Any one of the teams from 9-14 could make the finals and I wouldn't be shocked.

 

[The Dice Man]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong
2. Richmond
3. Bulldogs
4. Hawthorn
5. Collingwood
6. St. Kilda
7. Sydney
8. Port Adelaide
9. Brisbane
10. North Melbourne
11. Carlton
12. West Coast
13. Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Essendon
16. Melbourne



Boomark it

 

[rooke33]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Western Bulldogs
4. St Kilda
5. Collingwood
6. Richmond
7. Carlton
8. Adelaide

9. Port
10. Brisbane
11. North Melbourne
12. Sydney
13. Essendon
14. Fremantle
15. Melbourne
16. West Coast

 

[MP_]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Geelong
Hawthorn
Western Bulldogs
Adelaide
St Kilda
Collingwood
Nth Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Richmond
Brisbane
Carlton
Sydney
Essendon
West Coast
Fremantle
Melbourne

 

[Bloods Rule!]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Hawthorn - young and good
Geelong - good
Western Bulldogs - good and will mature more
Sydney - better in 2008 than 2007 and likely to improve as young players get more experience
Collingwood - Malthouse coaches well
Adelaide - another well coached team
Port Adelaide - over their shattering GF performance
Brisbane - probably

North Melbourne
Richmond
Carlton
St. Kilda
Essendon
West Coast
Fremantle
Melbourne

 

[SM]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Hawthorn
Richmond
Carlton
Port Adelaide
Geelong
Sydney
Western Bulldogs
Saint Kilda
Collingwood
North Melbourne
Brisbane
West Coast
Adelaide
Fremantle
Essendon
Melbourne

 

[punt road army]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1.Cats
2.Dogs
3.Hawks
4.St.K
5.Tigers
6.Pies
7.Crows
8.Roos

9.Blues
10.Bombers
11.Syd
12.B.L
13.Freo
14.WCE
15.Port
16.Melb

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1 - Geelong
2 - Hawthorn
3 - Brisbane
4 - Carlton
5 - Port Adelaide
6 - St.Kilda
7 - West Coast
8 - Richmond
9 - Adelaide
10 - Collingwood
11 - Fremantle
12 - Melbourne
13 - Bulldogs
14 - Sydney
15 - Kangaroos
16 - Essendon

 

[Axle17]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. WCE
4. St.Kilda ( quit finishing 4th!)
5. Collingwood
6. Brisbane
7. Sydney
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Richmond (For the next 10 years)
10. Carlton
11. Adelaide Crows
12. Essendon
13. North Melbourne
14. Fremantle
15. Port Adelaide
16. Melbourne

Premiers: Hawks
Norm Smith: Buddy
Wooden Spooners: Melbourne
Brownlow: S.Mitchell, Hodge or J.Selwood
Coleman: Buddy
Rising Star: Rich or Swift

Edit: Amazed no one rates Carlton or Richmond still.

 

[bomba4eva]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

Geelong-09 Premiers
Hawthorn-Will only get better over the next couple of years
Dogs-Only team that can displace the top 2
Saints-Still plenty of talent though we have said that for years
Richmond-Don't have any respect for them but should make finals
Essendon-Improving
Pies-Stagnating, lack of class
Blues-May finish a bit higher but should sneak into the 8
North-Workmanlike players will have a solid season.
Brisbane-Unsure over the level of young talent at this club
Port-Poor team
Adelaide-Lack of talent. Too many average players
West Coast-Developing side
Sydney-Rapidly ageing side. Will definitely fall out of the 8
Fremantle-Rabble
Melbourne

 

[lovedal26]

Re: 2009 AFL Ladder Prediction

1.Geelong
2.Hawthorn
3.Western Bulldogs
4.St Kilda
5.Collingwood
6.Richmond
7.Sydney
8.North Melbourne
9.Carlton
10.Adelaide
11.Brisbane
12.Essendon
13.Port Adelaide
14.Fremantle
15.Melbourne
16.West Coast

Premiers: Geelong.