2009 Trade Discussion Part 8

[samwise]

ill be getting mitch clarke due to his good form and i like his run home. fairly annoying that cox doesnt see the specialist until after lockout but i pretty much always trade out players in this situation like chornes and i cant remember it not paying off (going for overall ranking)

 

[dylan123]

I brought Carazzo in last week mate. He's a magnet and even though it's a slight risk, if they keep playing him in the middle then he's a winner.

And I'm bringing in Jolly for Cox this week as Cox will be out for 2-3 minimum and that's just too much at this stage of the comp.

Have 4 trades, will be down to 3 after Cox.

Thanks for the reply. Carazzo is a risk like you side but if he stays in the mid he will dominate. Do you think if Stevens gets back into the team he will go back to his tagging role? that is the only thing worrying me about picking him up. Jolly could be an alright target along with Mitch Clark now, his age puts me off Jolly a bit though

Regarding a replacement for Cox, I like this summary from footytragic.com:

For all the other teams with Dean Cox in your side & trades available, here are my thoughts on the most likely replacements:

Thanks for posting this article, gives a good summary of many of the options. did not know about the site, might have to start reading it a bit more.

I had not thought about Mitch Clark until this, he has been in great form and he could be a good option

 

[hess]

I have 6 trades left and $216 700 in the bank
I need to replace Adcock this week as I only have Suban as cover, and am looking at upgrading Beams either this week or in the next few.

Options for Adcock replacement are Goddard, Enright and Hargrave.
Going with Goddard leaves a budget of around $415 000 to replace Beams, leaving Mitchell, Pendlebury, Sewell and Thompson as options and could wait longer before needing to move on the upgrade with a wider range of targets.

If I take Hargrave I'll have around $440 000 and could go with Corey but with it being a tight squeeze I'd want to take him now.

With Enright I could afford Montagna this week, and obviously Corey and could wait and take Corey later on.

So basically, its Goddard + Mitchell/Pendlebury/Sewell/Thompson
v Hargrave + Corey v Enright + Montagna/Corey

St Kilda have a great run in the last 4 rounds so both Goddard and Montagna are attractive.
I'm leaning towards either Goddard + Thompson or Enright + Montagna/Corey.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I have 6 trades left and $216 700 in the bank
I need to replace Adcock this week as I only have Suban as cover, and am looking at upgrading Beams either this week or in the next few.

Options for Adcock replacement are Goddard, Enright and Hargrave.
Going with Goddard leaves a budget of around $415 000 to replace Beams, leaving Mitchell, Pendlebury, Sewell and Thompson as options and could wait longer before needing to move on the upgrade with a wider range of targets.

If I take Hargrave I'll have around $440 000 and could go with Corey but with it being a tight squeeze I'd want to take him now.

With Enright I could afford Montagna this week, and obviously Corey and could wait and take Corey later on.

So basically, its Goddard + Mitchell/Pendlebury/Sewell/Thompson
v Hargrave + Corey v Enright + Montagna/Corey

St Kilda have a great run in the last 4 rounds so both Goddard and Montagna are attractive.
I'm leaning towards either Goddard + Thompson or Enright + Montagna/Corey.

Would go that one if it helps!!

Otherwise i'd go goddard, wait a week or two and go hayes

 

[happy_eagle]

Everyone seems to be affected by the Cox situation, so i thought i would take a in-depth look at the trading options


Option 1- Aaron Sandilands
Price: 415,200
Average: 96
Standard Deviation (important for consistency):27.25

The Run home:
Brisbane, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Port Adelaide, Melbourne, Essendon, Geelong
A pretty good run home for Sandilands. This weekends game against Mitch clark will be very interesting. He should be able to ruck well against a cox-less D) West Coast. Sandilands should also be able to asert his dominance both in the ruck, and around the ground against the weaker ruck setups of Port Adelaide, Melbourne, Essendon and Geelong. The Western Bulldogs game is the only one which may halt Sandilands' scores (he got 85 in round 1 vs Bulldogs) A very solid run home for Sanilands should see him build or at least equal his current average

Injury Worry
He of course didnt play last week, due to Hamstring soreness. Not the best injury for a man of his size to have, and it has been sugested that this is an injury that may hamper his scores. Then again, he may be completley over the injury and return to his best. He managed 22 games for the first time in his career last season, but the whole debate of tanking, and sening players in for surgery, will defintnatly play on the Freo staff's minds.

Position in the Side
No one likes seing their ruckman go off for a rest on the bench. Sandilands has been the lone ruckman for Fremantle for a while now, and i dont think that the inclusion of Zach clarke will halt the big mans scores. He is the teams number 1 ruckman, and is rarely benched, instead rested up forward, which has proven to be a great move footy wise, and DT wise

Hit-Outs
Sandilands is the Hit-out king. You can always be assured that Sandilands can have a poor day, and still get a good 30-40 points alone from Hitouts. The more hitouts a ruckman gets, the less they are required to do around the ground, to get stats. Hit-outs are a very important part of Sandliands game, and in some cases earn him half his points. I dont see him getting shorter anytime soon, so this dominance should continue

Final Oppinion
Sandilands is probably the main option that people with the cash are considering. He has a generous run home, which should see him hold his average. If you trust the big fella's hammy's then he looks like a solid replacement for Cox. You can always know that he will have solid gametime, and wont be pushed out by any other ruckman. For those tight with cash, he is expected to fall to 380,000 within two weeks, so the more money tight coaches could wait untill then.


Option 2- Hamish Mcintosh
Price: 360,300
Average: 94.80
Standard Deviation :18.01

The Run home:
Richmond, Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne, West Coast, St Kilda, Port Adelaide
Those first 5 weeks are almost a ruckmans dream. Brisbane being the only tough team as far as ruck competition goes. Expect him to play incredibaly well against the tigers,blues, demons, west coast (i dont think Cox will return this season) and Port Adeliade. Similar to Sandilands, this run home will only help his average, and i would expect it to keep steady, or at best rise by a couple of PPG.

Injury Worries
The big mans knee injury last year, has been well publicised. However that seems to have been his only major injury. He has had a decent record previous to that. Its a big question of whether his knee will sucombe to another injury (as someone else pointed out in the thread earlier). I dont think injury is a serious problem with this guy

Hit-outs
Hamish Mcintosh isnt quite the dominant tap ruckman. He will still get a good 20-25 taps per game, but he does most of his Stats damage around the ground. Whilst this is a more risky way to earn points, it is the way that H-Mac plays, and has been proven to earn him alot of points.

Position in the Side
North Melbourne have finally realised that they cannot play 3-4 ruckman in the one side. David Hale moving forward, and Petrie back, has definantly helped Mcintosh's scores. If these other guys were looking like re-entering the ruck, then i would be wary, and would expect H-Macs average to fall. The new coach at North seems to like Hamish in the ruck, so i think he will stay there for the rest of the year

Final Oppinion
Hamish Mcintosh is pretty much a "Safe Bet". You know what to expect from him, and providing no change in the structure of the North Melbourne football club, he will fufill these expectations. Will ocasionly have the odd bad week, but all ruckman do. Has the lowest Standard deviation of all the options aswell, which shows consistancy. Also a nice $50,000 can be made out of this trade for the money concious.

Option 3 - Mitch Clark
Price: 358,500
Average: 83.67
Standard Deviation :25.50

The Run Home
Fremantle, North Melbourne, Collingwood, Essendon, Western Bulldogs, Port Adelaide, Sydney
Dosnt look to good does it. Only sides i see him having any great sucess is against the Bombers and the crows. Sandilands, Mcintosh, Fraser, Hudson, Brogan and Jolly should all beat him in the ruck, purely on experience alone. That being said, this season he has racked up a couple of Tons against these sides, so the writings not on the wall quite yet for Clark, but it does look like an uphill battle

Injury Worries
Younger players are always more prone to injury. Mitch clark hasnt played much senior footy over the past couple of years. Whilst some of his absence can be put down to his age, he has also had his injury problems. But the Mitch Clark of 09, looks alot different from the Mitch Clark of previous years, and i wouldnt expect Injury to play to much a part in his 2009 season. Has played all games this season, and looks fairly fit for a ruckman.

Hit-Outs
I havnt seen much of Mitch Clark this season in the Ruck, to be perfeclty honest. But from his stats, and DT reports, I can sense the fact that he is not a huge Tap-ruckman. Similar to Mcintosh, he prefers to do most of his DT damage around the grounds, with marks and possessions. Maybe once he grows more, he will develop high numbers of hit-outs into his game, and produce Dean Cox like DT numbers

Position in the Side
This is probably Mitchs Downfall. Mitch has been playing his best footy, in the absense of the other Brisbane ruckman. Injuries to Charman and Leuenberger have meant that Mitch has moved from his position as a key forward (where he wasnt going to get a game ahead of the two B's (Brown and Bradshaw that is)). His peformance looked more dominant (even though he got the same score) this week without Brennan. Mitch clark needs to be the lone ruckman, to be able to score well, and with Charman and Leuenberger unlikely to return soon, he should keep his spot in the Brisbane side, as the Lone ruckman

Final Oppinion
Mitch presents the highest Risk/Reward. He has the highest Standard Deviation (mainly due to position change). He is somewhat un-proven, and presents a huge risk for those selecting him. However he has shown this year, that any risks taken with him, turn into great rewards. At best, will probably only average the same as a Mcintosh, or Sandilands, but is a good $60,000 cheaper than Cox. Looks like he will maintain his average in the absense of the injured Brisbane ruckman


Option 4- Josh Fraser
Price: 341,400
Average: 92.07
Standard Deviation: 28.32

The Run Home
Hawthorn, Carlton, Brisbane, Adelaide, Richmond, Sydney, Western Bulldogs
Pretty Even run home for the magpie Ruckman. Expect him to ruck well against Hawks, Carlton, Adelaide, Richmond and maybe Brisbane. He also i immagine (i havnt checked) would be playing alot of his run home in Melbourne, which is a huge advantage. With that run home, i would think that he SHOULD hold his average, but wouldnt be suprised if it fell.

Injury Worries
He looks like a bloke who is very injury prone.....and he is. For him to stay on the park is an achievement. Almost every season, he has fallen down injured. He has played every game this season, but i wouldnt be suprised to see him injured at some point before seasons end. When he is on the park and fit, he is a very dominant ruckman (as shown by early this season). Its a question of whether or not you trust his body, to be able to work out the season.

Hit-Outs
This guy is not a tap ruckman at all. He does almost all of his DT work around the ground with marks and possesions. On some occasions he will only earn about 10-15 points from hit-outs. Whilst this may not be what the Magpies want from a Ruckman, it still hasnt affected his DT scores. Very few ruckman seem to be able to combine the points from Hit-outs and possessions around the ground

Position in the Side
Similar to Sandilands, in the fact that he is the one and only ruckman down at Collingwood. Leigh Browns attempt at being a ruckman, let alone a AFL footballer have been a laughable at best. The magpies refuse to draft young Ruckman, instead prefer to recycle used and useless Ruckman from other clubs (will be interesting to see how Mark Seaby goes there next year ). Being the only capable ruckman in the side, allows him to rack up the points

Final Oppinion
There is quite a bit of risk involved with Josh Fraser. The main question is his fitness, and whether or not he can last a whole AFL season, without breaking down. His possession style football will only put further pressure on his body. At his price, you stand to make close to $80,000 from the trade, which would be tempting to most coaches. Certantly plenty of upside to picking him, but the thing weighing him down is his injury run, and consistancy.

Option 5- Darren Jolly(good show)
Price: 348,800
Average: 88.53
Standard Deviaton: 26

The Run Home
Carlton, Melbourne, St Kilda, Richmond, Geelong, Collingwood, Brisbane
That looks like a pretty solid run home for Jolly. He should be able to assert his dominance over the Blues, Demons, Tiges, Cats, whilst breaking even against the Pies, and the Lions. I would expect his average to increase over the remaining rounds.

Injury Worries
This is a great string to Jollys game. He very rarely gets injured, and is one of the most consistant playing ruckman going around. What he lacks in average compared to some of the bigger name ruckman, he makes up for in his record of injuries. One of those blokes that is a certain starter almost every week

Hit-Outs
Darren Jolly is a hit out ruckman. There is no doubt in that. He can regularly earn you 40 PPG alone from hit outs. However he is not as strong around the ground. On a poor day, Darren Jolly will get about 60 DT points. At least 30-40 of these points are from Hit-outs, whilst the remaining 20 (yes 20 ) are from his almost non-existant around the ground work. However, on the odd ocasion, Darren has been known to combine both hit-outs and around the ground work. On these ocasions, he has netted scores of 144, 133, 113 and so on. Clear proof that when Darren Jolly can combine his hit-out work with around the ground work, he is dominant

Position in the Side
Darren is the only ruckman at Sydney. Similar to Collingwood, Sydney seem incapable of drafting ruckman, let alone anyone tall. As Jolly is the Number one ruckman, he receives almost the whole teams hit-outs, which is why his list is always very high. You would think that being the only ruckman in the side, would allow Jolly to do more work around the ground, but that is a string in his bow, that he has yet to perfect.

Final Oppinion
With all the posotives of Jolly that i had mentioned, you would have thought he would be one of the top rated ruckman. I was very suprised when i saw his average. There is a sense of reliability in his Hit-out numbers, and the fact that he is guarranteed at least 30-40 points alone from hitouts. However his around the ground work leaves him well short of the other ruckman in the comp. If you beleive that he can pull out more of those huge scores by combining the two elements of ruckwork, then he would be a great pick. At his price, you would gain $80,000 from the trade, and a durable ruckman





Well thats just my thoughts (apologies about the grammar, was very rushed)

 

[fatmungus]

Suban -> Post this week to free up some cash.

Will he keep his spot?

 

[Rod Stroker]

Suban -> Post this week to free up some cash.

Will he keep his spot?

I'd be wary of trading in Richmond players, who knows what Rawlings will do for the rest of the year. Silvester looked OK but he got dumped after 2 games. Cogs didn't do much wrong in firsts but has been languishing in he seconds for a month with Bowden.

 

[Brown Bottle]

Suban -> Post this week to free up some cash.

Will he keep his spot?

Yes!

He's looked really good.

 

[theone5]

Everyone seems to be affected by the Cox situation, so i thought i would take a in-depth look at the trading options


Option 1- Aaron Sandilands

Option 2- Hamish Mcintosh

Option 3 - Mitch Clark

Option 4- Josh Fraser

Option 5- Darren Jolly(good show)

Not bad for a "casual" DreamTeamer.

Obviously i cut out all your information as the quote would have been too long and too extensive.

You left out D.Petrie but you also should widen your thoughts and consider other options.
Maybe get some back-up in case D.Cox returns or maybe trade him down to a ruckman under $200,000 which will free up some cash for your final upgrades.

 

[happy_eagle]

I was going to add in Petire, and some other options, but the Chaser was on

 

[jimmyclean]

Hi, first post here (First year in DT and I Love BF)

I was looking to trade one of my 2 midfield bench warmers (Matt Austin BL 116k, Daniel O'Keefe Syd 86k) for a player that might be able to pull some decent safety numbers. Austin has scored very poorly and O'Keefe hasn't had a game.

My targets are Leigh Adams 86k(just played first game for NM with 67 and has a good record in the VFL 4 BOG from 8 games i believe) or Liam Shiels 136k (222 from 4 games, avg 55.5).

I have 5 trades left and 44,900 in the bank.

My biggest worry is that the player will stop getting game time and just waste a trade. Also I am considering just saving the trade come finals (ranked 3 in my only public league), but it might cut off my chances of snagging a player like Shiels if I do need the backup.

Here is my team in case you have suggestions.
Backs
Lockyer, Enright, Gilbert, Grima, J. Blake, Z Dawson, Grimes.
Dale Morris and Pettigrew on the bench.
Mids
Montagna, Gibbs, Power, McLean, K Simpson, L Anthony.
Austin and O'Keefe on the bench.
Rucks
Tippett, Sandilands.
Z Clarke, Natinui on the bench (lets hope Sandi's hammy pulls through).
Forwards
Davey, M Clarke, Higgins, Goodwin, Nahas, Jurrah, M Brown.
S Johnson and L Johnston on the bench (SJ obviously for now, loser or Nahas, Brown and Jurrah loses their spot).

That's it, thoughts would be greatly appreciated on any trade/selection ideas.
Oh and I scored 2023 in lasts weeks disaster week =D

 

[Wilso]

Adcock Trade Pondering

Option 1: Sam Fisher, 305,200, B/E 40. Been a solid Dreamteamer for many years, unlikely to average more than 85-90 for the rest of the year but his durability is a huge plus.

Option 2: Chad Cornes, 320,000, B/E 113. Dreamteam gun but big question marks over his fitness and form. Has the potential to average 95-100 for the rest of the year and could be the player that gives me the extra edge to take home the premiership.

I've got Suban cover so I'm considering waiting a week on this one, but it could cost me 15k and 40 points if Chad doesn't prove to me he's getting back to some form. Hmmmmm

 

[force65]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

ok guys because of greg broughton ive got a very good but tough decision to make...since broughton has been scoring so well i think he deserves a spot on my starting field but i still need to downgrade a defender for cash...which one should i choose here are the options:

Greg Broughton 335k avg 91.1
Sam Fisher 305k avg 83.1
Andrew Mackie 310k avg 80
Peter Burgoyne 283k avg 80.3

 

[Cynic]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

ok guys because of greg broughton ive got a very good but tough decision to make...since broughton has been scoring so well i think he deserves a spot on my starting field but i still need to downgrade a defender for cash...which one should i choose here are the options:

Greg Broughton 335k avg 91.1
Sam Fisher 305k avg 83.1
Andrew Mackie 310k avg 80
Peter Burgoyne 283k avg 80.3

Burgoyne

Injury prone and could well be dropped this week

 

[JuddyisGod]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

Hodge or Carrazzo?

 

[srv23]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

Ok guys. I have 1 trade left. I also have Cox.

This is my side

Lockyer, Cornes, Bock, Mackie, Fisher, Hodge, Broughton, Grimes, Petrenko

Ablett, Bartel, Swan, Gibbs, J Selwood, DeBoer, Muston, Hartlett

Cox, HMac, Jacobs, Browne

Riewoldt, Johnson, Pavlich, Deledio, ROK, Higgins, Aaron davey, Walker, W Thompson

Bolded players a fair chance to miss. Have been playing with 3 zeros the last few weeks. If these 3 miss and Walker doesn't play that's another 3 zeroes. If Bartel is rested that's 4. Only have 1 trade left.

By some miracle I am still in the top 1000 but sinking fast.

My thought processes are

A) Trade Cox now - will have no trades left but 2-3 weeks could mean West Coast putting him in cotton wool till next year. However he could just miss the 2 and be back.

B) Wait a week or 2 and see what happens. In that time he may come back or hopefully Jacobs gets a game for the Blues. Saves me a trade which I could need down the track. I have 50k in the bank which could allow me to get one more decent soring player in the midfield.

C) Go for broke. I'm not going anywhere but down in the rankings so take a chance that in the next 2-3 weeks either Cox will be back or Jacobs gets a game and try and get one more high scoring midfield into the side. Thinking of doing Muston for Anthony. Leave me with a starting 22 that when fit are all capable of big scores and will leave me with backup when Geelong invariably rest Bartel and Selwood in the same game,

 

[Cynic]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

A) Trade Cox now - will have no trades left but 2-3 weeks could mean West Coast putting him in cotton wool till next year. However he could just miss the 2 and be back.

B) Wait a week or 2 and see what happens. In that time he may come back or hopefully Jacobs gets a game for the Blues. Saves me a trade which I could need down the track. I have 50k in the bank which could allow me to get one more decent soring player in the midfield.

C) Go for broke. I'm not going anywhere but down in the rankings so take a chance that in the next 2-3 weeks either Cox will be back or Jacobs gets a game and try and get one more high scoring midfield into the side. Thinking of doing Muston for Anthony. Leave me with a starting 22 that when fit are all capable of big scores and will leave me with backup when Geelong invariably rest Bartel and Selwood in the same game,

I actually quite like C to be honest

I'd be more inclined to holding that trade though if you've turned your attention to a league victory.

 

[srv23]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

I actually quite like C to be honest

I'd be more inclined to holding that trade though if you've turned your attention to a league victory.

I like C too to be honest. I haven't really turned to a league victory. I want to win my league but it's just a public one and not particularly competetive. I'm top of my league with 12 wins no losses. I want to get the highest overall ranking I can which is why I'm leaning towards C too.

 

[Dalsantowhatastar]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

Hodge or Carrazzo?

That's who i'm thinking mate. Tempted to go Carrazzo right now as most in my league have just picked up Hodge, so Carrazzo could be a good pick up. Can't decide

 

[crazyman27]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

Ok guys. I have 1 trade left. I also have Cox.

This is my side

Lockyer, Cornes, Bock, Mackie, Fisher, Hodge, Broughton, Grimes, Petrenko

Ablett, Bartel, Swan, Gibbs, J Selwood, DeBoer, Muston, Hartlett

Cox, HMac, Jacobs, Browne

Riewoldt, Johnson, Pavlich, Deledio, ROK, Higgins, Aaron davey, Walker, W Thompson

Bolded players a fair chance to miss. Have been playing with 3 zeros the last few weeks. If these 3 miss and Walker doesn't play that's another 3 zeroes. If Bartel is rested that's 4. Only have 1 trade left.

By some miracle I am still in the top 1000 but sinking fast.

My thought processes are

A) Trade Cox now - will have no trades left but 2-3 weeks could mean West Coast putting him in cotton wool till next year. However he could just miss the 2 and be back.

B) Wait a week or 2 and see what happens. In that time he may come back or hopefully Jacobs gets a game for the Blues. Saves me a trade which I could need down the track. I have 50k in the bank which could allow me to get one more decent soring player in the midfield.

C) Go for broke. I'm not going anywhere but down in the rankings so take a chance that in the next 2-3 weeks either Cox will be back or Jacobs gets a game and try and get one more high scoring midfield into the side. Thinking of doing Muston for Anthony. Leave me with a starting 22 that when fit are all capable of big scores and will leave me with backup when Geelong invariably rest Bartel and Selwood in the same game,

I hope you aren't hit by something like the Didak/Shaw debacle last year. I got ruined by that because I had no trades.

 

[JuddyisGod]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

That's who i'm thinking mate. Tempted to go Carrazzo right now as most in my league have just picked up Hodge, so Carrazzo could be a good pick up. Can't decide

That was my thinking, because he's a bit more unique with everyone having Hodge. In saying that though he's a lot more expensive and with so few trades left cash will be important

 

[sherrin_footy]

might get rid of nathan brown (rich) and bring in franklin.
make around 100k doing so

 

[Notorious_29]

so cut with all the injuries and restings.

pulled the trigger with 2 trades.

cox ---> mcintosh
adcock ---> goddard

now leaves me with a finished team and 3 trades , as if 3 is anywhere near enough with the amount of injuries atm.

 

[smiths]

Re: 2009 Trade Dihttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1scussion Part 8

I need some advice:

I have cox and hmac as starting rucks, but I have Pyke on bench who has been named for this week.

If Pyke wasnt named id jump on Kurt Tippet in a heartbeat.

I have 35 k / 3 trades and am looking to do a Beams > Bartell trade in about 3weeks?

So should I keep cox/play Pyke or Trade cox > tippet and pocket the 100k cash?



Btw I have adcock as well but Mackie will cover him on field and Suban as an emg...so I wont trade him yet.

 

[Dimitri_Mishkin]

Like most people Im looking to trade Cox

Who would be the better option of of Jolly and Petrie? Im leaning towards Petrie as he's looked a little more consistent, and capable of kicking a bag.

PS how long will Cox be out for???