2010 Playing List & Fixture

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Final 2010 List:

1.
2. Will Thursfield
3. Brett Deledio
4.
5. Troy Simmonds
6. Graham Polak (rookie)
7.
8. Jack Riewoldt
9. Trent Cotchin
10. Shane Edwards
11.
12.
13. Jordan McMahon
14. Dean Polo
15. Mitch Farmer
16. Luke McGuane
17. Chris Newman (C)
18. Alex Rance
19. Daniel Connors
20. Mitch Morton
21. Shane Tuck
22. Alroy Gilligan (rookie)
23. Daniel Jackson
24. Andrew Collins
25. Angus Graham
26. Robin Nahas
27. Tom Hislop
28. Jake King
29. Tyrone Vickery
30. Richard Tambling
31. Adam Thomson
32. Ben Cousins
33. David Gourdis(Rookie)
34. Andrew Browne
35. Matthew White
36. Dustin Martin
37. Jayden Post
38. Ben Griffiths
39. David Astbury
40. Kelvin Moore
41. Nathan Foley
42. Jamie O'Rielly (Rookie)
43. Matt Dea
44. Troy Taylor
45. Robert Hicks (rookie)
46. Jeromey Webberley
47. Ben Nason
48. Dylan Grimes
49. Pat Contin (rookie)
50. Relton Roberts (rookie)
51. Nicholas Westoff (rookie)

 

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Re: Current Situation Regarding Playing List

2010 NAB Cup Fixture:
Saturday 13th Feb vs Hawthorn @ Aurora Stadium Launceston.

2010 Fixture

1 CARLTON THU March 25th MCG 7.10 HOME
2 WESTERN BULLDOGS SUN April 4 MCG 4.40 HOME
3 SYDNEY SWANS SAT April 10 SCG 7.10 AWAY
4 MELBOURNE SUN April 18 MCG 1.10 HOME
5 FREMANTLE SUN April 25 Subiaco 6.40 AWAY
6 GEELONG SUN May 2 Skilled 1.10 AWAY
7 ADELAIDE SUN May 9 AAMI 4.10 AWAY
8 HAWTHORN SUN May 16 MCG 1.10 HOME
9 ESSENDON SAT May 22 MCG 7.30 AWAY
10 PORT ADELAIDE SAT May 29 AAMI 2.40 AWAY
11 ST. KILDA FRI Jun 4 Etihad 7.40 HOME
12 WEST COAST SUN Jun 13 MCG 1.10 HOME
13 BRISBANE SAT Jun 19 Gabba 7.10 AWAY
14 SYDNEY SUN Jul 4 MCG 2.10 HOME
15 FREMANTLE SAT Jul 10 Etihad 7.10 HOME
16 NORTH SUN Jul 18 MCG 2.10 HOME
17 COLLINGWOOD SAT Jul 24 MCG 2.10 AWAY
18 ADELAIDE SUN Aug 1 MCG 1.10 HOME
19 MELBOURNE SUN Aug 8 MCG 2.10 AWAY
20 CARLTON SAT Aug 14 MCG 2.10 AWAY
21 ST.KILDA SAT Aug 21 Etihad 2.10 AWAY
22 PORT Etihad Floating Fixture HOME

 

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With the list finalised and no doubt people keen to start selecting their best 22 and round 1 line ups, it would be appreciated if posters would use this thread for doing just that.

 

[Jhzz]

B: Moore - Newman - Thursfield
F: Betts - Henderson - Waite

HB: Edwards - McGuane - Rance
HF: Yarran - Kreuzer - Lucas

C: Cousins - Cotchin - Martin
C: Simpson - McLean - Walker

HF: Collins - Deledio - Tambling
HB: Grigg - Bower - Russell

F: Nahas - Riewoldt - Morton
B: Thornton - Jamison - Davies

Followers: Graham - Jackson - Foley
Followers: Hampson - Murphy - Gibbs

Interchange: Vickery - Post - Tuck - King
Interchange: Warnock - Joseph - Houlihan - Austin

Emerg: Simmonds - Polo - Farmer
Emerg: Robinson - Scotland - Armfield

Unlucky to miss: Hislop, Thompson, Polak, McMahon
Unlucky to miss: Johnson, Garlett, Carrazzo, Hadley​

http://afl.allthestats.com/statistics/alltime.php?t2=&yrfm=1997&yrto=2009&gnd=0&inat=4&gms=0

 

[Jhzz]

The rest of the draftees i tip to start playing games from round 5 onwards.

 

[TigerGlory]

B Moore - Thursfield - King
HB Newman - Rance - McGuane
C Tambling - Cousins - Cotchin
HF Tuck - Post - Edwards
F Morton - Riewoldt - Nahas
R Vickery- Deledio - Foley
INT Simmonds - Thomson - Jackson - Martin

If Polak is fully fit, chuck him straight at full forward and move around the side accordingly.

 

[Almighty tigers]

1.
2. Will Thursfield
3. Brett Deledio
4.
5. Troy Simmonds
6. Graham Polak (rookie)
7.
8. Jack Riewoldt
9. Trent Cotchin
10. Shane Edwards
11.
12.
13. Jordan McMahon
14. Dean Polo
15. Mitch Farmer
16. Luke McGuane
17. Chris Newman (C)
18. Alex Rance
19. Daniel Connors
20. Mitch Morton
21. Shane Tuck
22. Alroy Gilligan (Rookie)
23. Daniel Jackson
24. Andrew Collins
25. Angus Graham
26. Robin Nahas
27. Tom Hislop
28. Jake King
29. Tyrone Vickery
30. Richard Tambling
31. Adam Thomson
32. Ben Cousins
33. David Gourdis(Rookie)
34. Andrew Browne
35. Matthew White
36. Dustin Martin
37. Jayden Post
38. Ben Griffiths
39. David Astbury
40. Kelvin Moore
41. Nathan Foley
42. Jamie O'Rielly (rookie)
43. Matt Dea
44. Troy Taylor
45. Robert Hicks (rookie)
46. Jeromey Webberley
47. Ben Nason
48. Dylan Grimes
49. Pat Contin (rookie)
50. Relton Roberts (rookie)
51. Nicholas Westoff (rookie)

Numbers For next year
As you will see gilligan has been elavated to Number 22

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/88191/default.aspx

 

[Almighty tigers]

B: Farmer, Thursfield, Mcguane
HB: Webberly, Rance, Edwards
C: Newman, Martin, Collins
HF: Tambling, Post, Nahas
FF: Morton, Riewoldt, Gourdis
Foll: Graham, Deledio, Thomson
Inter: Vickery, Foley, Cousins, Cotchin

Emg: Jackson, Hislop, Polak

Polak could easily replace one of Mcguane, Thursfield, Rance or Gourdis

 

[Rayzorwire]

B: Collins McGuane Rance
HB: Martin Tuck Tambling
C: Connors Cousins Cotchin
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne McMahon White Thomson

Alternate Rance and Tuck depending on who suits the 2nd/3rd tall forward(s) best. Moore would be in the mix at 2008 fitness (I do rate him ahead of Rance at this stage on his best form, but Rance has more upside and should be played)...be interesting to see if Thursfield can finally put on some weight, strength and build his fitness base to required levels over the summer. I think it would be worthwhile trying a big midfielder like Tuck with a midfielder's fitness at CHB ahead of them and see how it goes. He's 1cm shorter than Moore and 6kg heavier, 2cm shorter than Thursfield and 5kg heavier, way fitter than either and a way better competitor body on body and at ground level, and he's always been quite strong in the air.

Martin, Tambling and Collins would all have bursts on the ball and bench but mostly play as rebounding defenders. Too few of our past sides have blooded good potential young midfielders with a defensive apprenticeship first while they build their fitness base and physique. I hope Hardwick will remedy this and get us away from using players who lack the pace and tank to attack hard from defence.

I'm hopeful Connors can step up this year and fulfill his talent, so I've played him as a defensive winger linkman, Cousins in the centre and Cotchin forward of the ball delivering inside-50.

Newman will play, so as I've maintained for some time, he needs a position with less fitness requirement where he can be encouraged to take some risks, spot up deep targets, nail most short passes inside-50 and take shots on goal from outside-50. He's no Nathan Brown in his prime, but he'd be good for 25+ goals, plenty of scoring assists, and best of all, he no longer holds up our transition from defence. As I've said before, I'd love to see Deledio trialed as a high CHF. With Richo gone he's our toughest individual match-up; he should be played where he can hurt the opposition most on the occasions we have a full compliment of our best mids available. The few stints he had at FF were very encouraging for his age and CHF gives him more space to work in and more opportunity to beat opponents with just his pace and stamina. Morton on the flank is a bit of a gimme.

Nahas will have some stiff competition for the FP spot coming his way over the next few years - especially considering his glaring fitness deficiencies last season don't give him much of a maturity advantage at the selection table - but he was encouraging enough when he had something left in the tank to get a starting 22 defensive forward role. Like Reiwoldt best at FF, he's a better one on one marking forward than an athlete capable of dominating CHF at ground level and in the air. Very strong chance Post could make a great CHF or CHB, but probably a year or so off trying him out there...even part-time it's a big ask in your 2nd year, so slotted him into the pocket as a big roaming marking target.

Traing reports on Graham are encouraging so he will likely get a crack as starting ruckman. Be happy to see us play Browne ahead of Simmonds, but don't be surprised if Simmonds can ges back to much better form than last year - surely the only reason we would have kept him is that he won't have the same injury problems. Jackson has the makings of an excellent tagger at a minimum and will have plenty of natural improvement from last year. At his best, Foley is our best rover, though he will surely be challenged in the future. Foley is close to being our most important player and without him fit and firing I'd say we're a 10% worse side - more than enough in this comp to land you in the bottom-4.

Interchange is a real raffle and we'll no doubt use a lot of different players next year. Many of the options are either at the crossroads of their career or just starting out and not ready.

If he's going well on the track and ticking all the boxes I'd like to see McMahon included for a couple of weeks at least at the beginning of the year. We lack everything he's capable of providing at his best and he's one of only a few non-core midfield players we have who can genuinely run out full games week in week out. Until that changes and the young kids can offer more, I'd be happy to see him playing supporting roles off the bench...little doubt he's blown his chance as a starting 22 designated kick rebounder[FONT=&quot].


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[Kapital city TIGER]

B: Collins McGuane Rance
HB: Martin Tuck Tambling
C: Connors Cousins Cotchin
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne McMahon White Thomson

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most of the day goes by without a reply - you mustve nailed it RZ - better take it down before opposition coaching gets across it!

FWIW, I havent seen anything of Conners to pop him in the 22, certainly not outside of our fwd1/2, but do need to see if there is ANY hope left on this kid.
Collins at BP should work out well I reckon all of a sudden it just makes sense ! poise and skills where we have struggled, rather than trying to work him undersized into the midfield- free up more pacey players Edwards, Whitey to the wings / -- ? take your point about a defensive apprentiship - swap Cotchin to hbf for his, until Martin is ready. Like to have a look at some new blood asap - ? Webberly on the wing?
Tuck too tough to leave out he is built for Aussie rules but where to put him? I have been thinking fwd, but used to fantasise about him ruling CHB

B: Collins Thursfield Rance
HB: Cotchin Tuck Tambling
C: Edwards Cousins Webberly
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne Martin(mid bpf), Mc Mahon/ King(mid/ fwd/ whippingboy), Polak(kp)
I really hope that we get something out of Polly and Kingy, which is why I put em in

 

[Kapital city TIGER]

B: Collins McGuane Rance
HB: Martin Tuck Tambling
C: Connors Cousins Cotchin
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne McMahon White Thomson

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most of the day goes by without a reply - you mustve nailed it RZ - better take it down before opposition coaching gets across it!

FWIW, I havent seen anything of Conners to pop him in the 22, certainly not outside of our fwd1/2, but do need to see if there is ANY hope left on this kid.
Collins at BP should work out well I reckon all of a sudden it just makes sense ! poise and skills where we have struggled, rather than trying to work him undersized into the midfield- free up more pacey players Edwards, Whitey to the wings / -- ? take your point about a defensive apprentiship - swap Cotchin to hbf for his, until Martin is ready. Like to have a look at some new blood asap - ? Webberly on the wing?
Tuck too tough to leave out he is built for Aussie rules but where to put him? I have been thinking fwd, but used to fantasise about him ruling CHB

B: Collins Thursfield Rance
HB: Cotchin Tuck Tambling
C: Edwards Cousins Webberly
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne Martin(mid bpf), Mc Mahon/ King(mid/ fwd/ whippingboy), Polak(kp)
I really hope that we get something out of Polly and Kingy, which is why I put em in

 

[Jhzz]

B: Collins Thursfield Rance
HB: Cotchin Tuck Tambling
C: Edwards Cousins Webberly
HF: Newman Deledio Morton
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Post
R: Graham Jackson Foley
Int: Simmonds/Browne Martin(mid bpf), Mc Mahon/ King(mid/ fwd/ whippingboy), Polak(kp)
I really hope that we get something out of Polly and Kingy, which is why I put em in

I cannot see Cotchin at half back for the whole game, Collins at full-back, Webberly making the 22, Browne in the interchange & McMahon in the interchange. Both McMahon & Browne belong in ethier the Emerg or no where.

McMahon will only get like 10 games in 2010, Browne also around that mark unless he makes a impact early (he's young & will be given time to develop).

Cotchin & Collins should be in Half forward or Centre the whole game, maybe at half back, but not for too long. This is the team i feel as if will face Carlton Round 1.

REMEMBER TO POST THE BEST TEAM YOU THINK WE CAN OFFER!​

B: Moore (191cm) - Thursfield (191cm) - Newman (183cm)
F: Waite (194cm)- Henderson (196cm) - Betts (173cm)​

HB: Edwards - McGuane - Rance
HF: Yarran - Kreuzer - Lucas​

C: Cousins - Cotchin - Martin
C: Simpson - McLean - Walker​

HF: Collins - Deledio - Tambling
HB: Grigg - Bower - Russell​

F: Nahas - Riewoldt - Morton
B: Thornton - Jamison - Davies​

Followers: Graham - Jackson - Foley
Followers: Hampson - Murphy - Gibbs​

Interchange: Vickery - Post - Tuck - King
Interchange: Warnock - Joseph - Houlihan - Austin​

Emerg: Simmonds - Polo - Farmer
Emerg: Robinson - Scotland - Armfield​

Unlucky to miss: Hislop, Thompson, Polak, McMahon
Unlucky to miss: Johnson, Garlett, Carrazzo, Hadley​

Richmond Possible Additions if fit: Griffeths & ...
Carlton Possible Additions if fit: ...

Richmond In: Martin, Foley (Inj), Cotchin (Inj), Thursfield (Inj), King (Susp) & Newman (Ill)​

Carlton In: ...​

 

[Almighty tigers]

Why does everyone have one of our best midfielders (deledio) playing Centre Half Forward???
He should play midfield
let Post or someone else develop at CHF

 

[Jhzz]

In 2008 Deledio was played in CHF, he kicked 28 goals. This year he was played in Centre, he kicked 20. With the retirement of Richo, we would need Lids in the forward-midfield line more. I guess everyone would think that Deledio is more dangerous in Half forward then he is in centre, although he does a good job in the midfield just that more goals from him would be excellent.

 

[sante]

Its pretty hard to post a Best 22, because there aren't a whole lot of players who are locked in it or are yet to find their best position.


B: Edwards - Moore - Thursfield
HB: McMahon - McGuane - Tambling
C: Newman - Cousins - Collins
HF: Cotchin - Post - White
F: Nahas - Riewoldt - Morton

1R: Simmonds - Foley - Deledio

Int: Graham - Martin - Tuck - Jackson

I think Farmer, Polo, Connors and Rance are all easily capable to be in there. Rance doesn't really fill a need in our 22, so misses out. The other 2 should play a fair few games in 2010. I haven't put Farmer in, because right now he is behind the likes of Polo, Edwards and co.

I know many (if any) don't rate McMahon, but the fact is he is apart of our best 22. White is another who many have turned against, but I still believe that he can be a handy player as a HF rotating through the middle, he has great pace and is a very good tackler and does use the ball quite well.

Post is in the team because we need a CHF and we need him and Riewoldt to start working together ASAP.

King and Hislop are shit kicks which will keep them out as the year goes on. Thomson has no spot in our midfield with the class we are developing through there, I'd rather see us play Collins, Martin, Cotchin over him.

 

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Forgetting about posters dislike for particular players and assuming everyone is fit and in form here are what I consider to be our best 22 heading into 2010.

Best Possible 22:

B: Polo Thursfield Moore
HB: McMahon McGuane Newman
C: Collins Deledio Jackson
HF: Cousins Post Cotchin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Morton
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Graham Martin Tambling Vickery

As you can see from the best 22 side there are a lot of players who are going to be under pressure this year to perform and there are some players who have been around a while who are going to have to pull their fingers out if they want to be here in 2011 and beyond.

By seasons end I would be hoping to see a side along the lines of the following, especially if we're looking at actually developing players in positions for the future:

B: Farmer Rance Thursfield
HB: Polo Astbury Newman
C: Collins Martin Tambling
HF: Reiwoldt Post Foley
F: Nahas Griffiths Morton
R: Graham Deledio Cotchin
I: Vickery Jackson Cousins McGuane

Backline: Rance to me needs to play at FB where his supposed dodgy disposal is not going to be a great concern. His main job will be to stop the opposition FF and I believe he has the attributes to be a very good FB in the future. To play it safe, surround him with a couple of pretty good ball users in Will and Farmer to remove some of the pressure. Across HB, I want to see Astbury get a crack at making CHB his own. While he might be a little undersized at present its all about getting experience and with McGuane on the bench as a safety net there is no real danger of the kid getting exposed like Dawson did on Rocca. Beside him the experience of Newman and Polo who I feel is underrated by many on here for his abililty to play on both talls and smalls.

Midfield: This is the one area of the ground I really want to see during the season and the sooner the better. Just picture it in your mind, Deledio, Cotchin, Martin, Collins & Tambling roaming through the middle of the MCG. Pace & skills by the bucket load and then add Cousins Foley and Jackson as rotations. Doesn't it bring a smile to your face. Now while I don't believe it will happen this year, I do believe that this group has the potential to be one of the best midfields in the league in about 2-3 years time, especially when Collins Martin and Cotchin have all had the benefit of a couple more preseasons. Graham and Vickery to share the ruck duties.

Forwards: Post at CHF & Griffiths coming out of the square are the cornerstones of my forward line. If they both can step up it gives us the luxury of having Jack play as a high HF who leads up the ground and to me that is Jacks best position. Morton can play the deeper 3rd tall role as alternate leading option to Griffiths while Nahas & Foley provide the small crumbers who also apply defensive pressure.

Plenty to look forward to over the next 1-2 years as Hardwick sorts the wheat from the chaff.

 

[Tigers2011]

B: Farmer, Thursfield, Mcguane
HB: Webberly, Rance, Edwards
C: Newman, Martin, Collins
HF: Tambling, Post, Nahas
FF: Morton, Riewoldt, Gourdis
Foll: Graham, Deledio, Thomson
Inter: Vickery, Foley, Cousins, Cotchin

Emg: Jackson, Hislop, Polak

Polak could easily replace one of Mcguane, Thursfield, Rance or Gourdis

How does Jackson not get a game?

Surely on last seasons performance he would be one of the first selected...not to mention one of the only tigers to truely put his head over the ball!

 

[Thecho]

In 2008 Deledio was played in CHF, he kicked 28 goals. This year he was played in Centre, he kicked 20. With the retirement of Richo, we would need Lids in the forward-midfield line more. I guess everyone would think that Deledio is more dangerous in Half forward then he is in centre, although he does a good job in the midfield just that more goals from him would be excellent.

Judd could get more goals playing in the forward line also.

Deledio should play predominately in the midfield with stints up forward. He is too skillful to leave in the forward line even if he can roam up the ground. I was very pleased with the way he played in the midfield last year towards the end of the season.

We need players like Post and Griffiths when he is ready to make them positions their own.

 

[diligaf]

Final 2010 List:

1.
2. Will Thursfield
3. Brett Deledio
4.
5. Troy Simmonds
6. Graham Polak (rookie)
7.
8. Jack Riewoldt
9. Trent Cotchin
10. Shane Edwards
11.
12.
13. Jordan McMahon
14. Dean Polo
15. Mitch Farmer
16. Luke McGuane
17. Chris Newman (C)
18. Alex Rance
19. Daniel Connors
20. Mitch Morton
21. Shane Tuck
22. Alroy Gilligan (rookie)
23. Daniel Jackson
24. Andrew Collins
25. Angus Graham
26. Robin Nahas
27. Tom Hislop
28. Jake King
29. Tyrone Vickery
30. Richard Tambling
31. Adam Thomson
32. Ben Cousins
33. David Gourdis(Rookie)
34. Andrew Browne
35. Matthew White
36. Dustin Martin
37. Jayden Post
38. Ben Griffiths
39. David Astbury
40. Kelvin Moore
41. Nathan Foley
42. Jamie O'Rielly (Rookie)
43. Matt Dea
44. Troy Taylor
45. Robert Hicks (rookie)
46. Jeromey Webberley
47. Ben Nason
48. Dylan Grimes
49. Pat Contin (rookie)
50. Relton Roberts (rookie)
51. Nicholas Westoff (rookie)

Average age by Thursday 25th March 2010 (ROUND ONE) excluding rookies is 22.13 years. Definately one of the youngest lists in the comp, thanks to the cleanout!

 

[CoggaRules]

By seasons end I would be hoping to see a side along the lines of the following, especially if we're looking at actually developing players in positions for the future:

B: Farmer Rance Thursfield
HB: Polo Astbury Newman
C: Collins Martin Tambling
HF: Reiwoldt Post Foley
F: Nahas Griffiths Morton
R: Graham Deledio Cotchin
I: Vickery Jackson Cousins McGuane

Backline: Rance to me needs to play at FB where his supposed dodgy disposal is not going to be a great concern. ain job will be to stop the opposition FF and I believe he has the attributes to be a very good FB in the future. To play it safe, surround him with a couple of pretty good ball users in Will and Farmer to remove some of the pressure. Across HB, I want to see Astbury get a crack at making CHB his own. While he might be a little undersized at present its all about getting experience and with McGuane on the bench as a safety net there is no real danger of the kid getting exposed like Dawson did on Rocca. Beside him the experience of Newman and Polo who I feel is underrated by many on here for his abililty to play on both talls and smalls.

Midfield: This is the one area of the ground I really want to see during the season and the sooner the better. Just picture it in your mind, Deledio, Cotchin, Martin, Collins & Tambling roaming through the middle of the MCG. Pace & skills by the bucket load and then add Cousins Foley and Jackson as rotations. Doesn't it bring a smile to your face. Now while I don't believe it will happen this year, I do believe that this group has the potential to be one of the best midfields in the league in about 2-3 years time, especially when Collins Martin and Cotchin have all had the benefit of a couple more preseasons. Graham and Vickery to share the ruck duties.

Forwards: Post at CHF & Griffiths coming out of the square are the cornerstones of my forward line. If they both can step up it gives us the luxury of having Jack play as a high HF who leads up the ground and to me that is Jacks best position. Morton can play the deeper 3rd tall role as alternate leading option to Griffiths while Nahas & Foley provide the small crumbers who also apply defensive pressure.

Plenty to look forward to over the next 1-2 years as Hardwick sorts the wheat from the chaff.

1. If we are going to change it up RT, me thinks having a FB with dodgy disposal aint it. Do you need reminding? dont think so. At the end of the day, a FB with dodgy disposal that can stop his FF aint that bad, if you are treading water in amongst the also rans, its when you get into the big stuff, where you are wanting in on September and needing to be beat those above you where it all turns pear shaped. You see when the pressure in on in the heat of battle, its the FBs that stop their man and begin the forward press with their not dodgy disposal that gets you into the top echelon of the comp. If they do have dodgy disposal when the heat is applied they tend to produce absolute clangers at the most inopportune time of the game that ices it for the opposition.
Thats the difference dude.

 

[Heisenberg_]

In 2008 Deledio was played in CHF, he kicked 28 goals. This year he was played in Centre, he kicked 20. With the retirement of Richo, we would need Lids in the forward-midfield line more. I guess everyone would think that Deledio is more dangerous in Half forward then he is in centre, although he does a good job in the midfield just that more goals from him would be excellent.

This is news to me, I remember he was predominantly midfield and floated into the forward line occasionally.
Regardless he will not be playing CHF, Hardwick himself has said that he will be playing midfield, because you play your best midfielders in the midfield, and thats what he is.
Absolute waste to play your best midfielder in the forward line

 

[The Rusty Trombone]

Forgetting about posters dislike for particular players and assuming everyone is fit and in form here are what I consider to be our best 22 heading into 2010.

Best Possible 22:

B: Polo Thursfield Moore
HB: McMahon McGuane Newman
C: Collins Deledio Jackson
HF: Cousins Post Cotchin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Morton
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Graham Martin Tambling Vickery

Tambling will be in our starting side all year and most likely win our B&F I'm positive he will beat McMahon to that back flank position, Collins to the Wing and Nahas to that forward pocket . Other than that very well done. I can't see Lids playing at CHF like the rest but I would like to see Rance given a go in the Nab Cup at Full forward and MCgaune at CHF

Webberley will be in our back line very soon I think.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Tambling will be in our starting side all year and most likely win our B&F I'm positive he will beat McMahon to that back flank position, Collins to the Wing and Nahas to that forward pocket . Other than that very well done. I can't see Lids playing at CHF like the rest but I would like to see Rance given a go in the Nab Cup at Full forward and MCgaune at CHF

Webberley will be in our back line very soon I think.

I agree ...I like (most of) this side...

For me..

B: Polo Thursfield Moore
HB: McMahon McGuane Newman
C: Collins Deledio Tambling
HF: Cousins Post Cotchin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Morton
R: Graham Jackson (tagger) Foley
I: MartinVickery Tuck Taylor

 

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1. If we are going to change it up RT, me thinks having a FB with dodgy disposal aint it. Do you need reminding? dont think so. At the end of the day, a FB with dodgy disposal that can stop his FF aint that bad, if you are treading water in amongst the also rans, its when you get into the big stuff, where you are wanting in on September and needing to be beat those above you where it all turns pear shaped. You see when the pressure in on in the heat of battle, its the FBs that stop their man and begin the forward press with their not dodgy disposal that gets you into the top echelon of the comp. If they do have dodgy disposal when the heat is applied they tend to produce absolute clangers at the most inopportune time of the game that ices it for the opposition.
Thats the difference dude.

During the 07 U/18 titles Rance had an efficiency rating of 88.7% while averaging 17.7 disposals per game. At Colts level in WA his efficiency dropped a little (70.3% from 22.8 disposals) but he was playing further up the ground. Players might lose confidence Cogga, but they don't lose skill.

Rance as a 192cm & 92kg, 20 year old who loves a contest & has decent speed and IMO good skills is a solid foundation to build a backline around and with Hardwick and co taking the players back to basics, I don't see any harm in giving him first crack at FB, if he fails now we lose nothing and move on to plan B, if he succeeds then by time we're looking at pushing for finals and hopefully a flag, we'll have ourselves a 100+ game hard as nails FB to rely on.

In summary, if he can hit a team mate a minimum 7/10 times then the odds suggest that more often than not the ball will be heading towards our goals rather than coming back over his head. Surely that can't be all that bad.

 

[TheProwler]

I don't care about 2010, we are widely tipped to take out the coveted spoon and considering our list and the amount we recruited this year I am all about 2011 and beyond.

We need to get the mature aged recruits on the park this year whilst getting development into the 18,19 & 20 year olds that have not had the development they deserved from our previous coach. Developing a game plan that the players have drilled into them will take all year and then some so I understand it if we only win a handull of games this year.

B: Farmer Thursfield Webberley
HB: Collins Rance Newman
C: Cotchin Deledio Tambling
HF: Riewoldt Post Cousins
F: Nahas Griffiths/Astbury Morton
R: Graham Jackson Foley
I: Martin Vickery Connors Taylor
Emerg/Rotation: Roberts, Tuck, Dea, Grimes, Polak, McGuane

I would take it easy with FF and get game time and spells into Griffiths & Astbury, with Polak getting the odd game too. We need to get these into the system ASAP if fit.

Can't fit em all in so the others will have to work thier butts off at VFL level if they want a game.