Considering that Shuey got 12 Brownlow votes to 4, and Heppell won the RS award by a big margin, it is AT LEAST ARGUABLE that they took 3rd year vs 1st year into consideration. It should have been much closer. None of this suggests that Heppell wasn't a worthy winner, which is irrelevant to this thread anyway. The point is: Most of the awards have been won by 1st year players ~ because there is a bias. If you took a moneyball approach to the RS award, then 1st year players would rarely get a look-in.
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Considering that Shuey got 12 Brownlow votes to 4, and Heppell won the RS award by a big margin, it is AT LEAST ARGUABLE that they took 3rd year vs 1st year into consideration. It should have been much closer. None of this suggests that Heppell wasn't a worthy winner, which is irrelevant to this thread anyway. The point is: Most of the awards have been won by 1st year players ~ because there is a bias. If you took a moneyball approach to the RS award, then 1st year players would rarely get a look-in.
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Stevens like Shuey is a perfect example as to why it's open to players 21 years of age and under who haven’t played many AFL games due too injury.
Limit it to first year players and you have a select group of front runners who will win it.
my tip is Dylan Shiel (he's paying $17 at sportsbet.com.au)
Gerrik Weedon for the Eagles is a long shot, played 1 game to date and just completed his 3rd preseason.
A skillfull indigenous HFFer / mid with nice skills and hopefully will kick a few goals. Has put on bulk and improved his aeobic capacity a fair bit this preseason from reports.
Koby Stevens should get more games in 2012.
A skillfull indigenous HFFer / mid with nice skills and hopefully will kick a few goals. Has put on bulk and improved his aeobic capacity a fair bit this preseason from reports.
Koby Stevens should get more games in 2012.
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Billie Smedts, Billie Smedts and Billie Smedts....
I could be wrong however....
Go Catters...
I could be wrong however....
Go Catters...
I'd say Coniglio.
Our best chance is obviously Koby Stevens, but if Luke Shuey's season couldn't win last year, then there is pretty much no way Stevens will win.
Our best chance is obviously Koby Stevens, but if Luke Shuey's season couldn't win last year, then there is pretty much no way Stevens will win.
maybe there might, y'know, not be a player that has a better season than him?
So a West Coast player will never win the award again just because Shuey couldn't?
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Gee...these WC people seem pretty offended that Shuey didn't get it last year,,,,,seemed to me Heppel was odds on.. Shuey is a good player and all but I didn't think he was a ~cough~ shoe in for it when the award was on the table...
Obviously WCE people did....
Obviously WCE people did....
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Chad Wingard. He's a gun as long as he stays injury free i can see him taking out the rising star award easy.
Consider yourself lucky you don't live over here in Perth.
They all consider Shuey was robbed.
Sure, Shuey had more games where he stood out (hence his Brownlow votes), but Heppell was far more consistant.
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It's not considered when it's a fact!
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Thinking about it- possibly Clay Smith.
Is playing for the Dogs, who aren't going to be any good this year. He'll probably play early and get a fair run at it. Has a game style that stands out (I'll admit to have never seen him play but everything I hear about him is that he is a Mitch Robinson/Patrick Dangerfield type. Would run through a brick wall covered in hot flaming wax to get the ball), I can see the media and general football pundits getting excited if he is as hard at it as all the talk suggests.
Given the rising star award is heavily affected by media coverage and the resultant hype it generates, Smith could be a sneaky value bet.
Is playing for the Dogs, who aren't going to be any good this year. He'll probably play early and get a fair run at it. Has a game style that stands out (I'll admit to have never seen him play but everything I hear about him is that he is a Mitch Robinson/Patrick Dangerfield type. Would run through a brick wall covered in hot flaming wax to get the ball), I can see the media and general football pundits getting excited if he is as hard at it as all the talk suggests.
Given the rising star award is heavily affected by media coverage and the resultant hype it generates, Smith could be a sneaky value bet.
Coniglio. The kid is a gun. Dominated as a 16yo in the 2010 WAFL GF. Better than Swallow IMO. Cant wait to watch him play this year....
Can't tell you how refreshing it is to see a newbie to this site not displaying the typical one eyed behavior that is oh so common.
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Is anyone going to mention a player not from thier club?
Blease will have a decent year, but I'm not sure about him winning Risn Star. It is his first poper pre-season, but his fitness still isnt great. He's been training with the forwards also, so expect to see him on a forward flank/pocket and running down back flankers trying to take the ball out of defence. Once his fitness is worked up he'll become a dashing wingman.
I'd have thought Josh Caddy will take it out. Has a strong body and will play all year in the guts.
Josh Caddy will get it as he certainly is strong enough to play through the middle. He'll also get enough press to be in the mind of the public, and most importantly the people who vote for it, from early on because of the attempt to get traded and his father story.
Last bloke to walk when he won the Rising Star was Buckley ... right?
Lets hope if he does walk to Essendon he wins more flags than Buckely did!!
Obviously as an Essendon supporter I wouldn't enjoy it but there would be some strange coincidence, enough to make smile, if he did walk to Essendon and he never won a flag and gotten beaten in a GF by gold coast!!!!
Last bloke to walk when he won the Rising Star was Buckley ... right?
Lets hope if he does walk to Essendon he wins more flags than Buckely did!!
Obviously as an Essendon supporter I wouldn't enjoy it but there would be some strange coincidence, enough to make smile, if he did walk to Essendon and he never won a flag and gotten beaten in a GF by gold coast!!!!
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Some kid that wasn't drafted in 2011 and plays for a Victorian team.
I'm going to go with Sam Blease - drafted at pick 17 in 2008 (1 ahead of Luke Shuey).
That should sufficiently send sections (well, section) of BigFooty into meltdown.
Other than that I reckon John Butler or Stephen Coniglio.
I'm going to go with Sam Blease - drafted at pick 17 in 2008 (1 ahead of Luke Shuey).
That should sufficiently send sections (well, section) of BigFooty into meltdown.
Other than that I reckon John Butler or Stephen Coniglio.
forget caddy. he has said he will stay at gc. saw this in the media somewhere.
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He will be plying for a team that is coming from further back then the GC, he will struggle.
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Im gonna go with Ellis as a bit of a roughie, seems like the type of player that Hardwick will love and get alot of games next year.
Others would be Polec, Wingard, and Coniglio purely because they are likely to play 22 games next year.
Others would be Polec, Wingard, and Coniglio purely because they are likely to play 22 games next year.
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