2013 DRAFT discussion thread: Rookie Draft complete

[Amarula]

I'd take Gysberts back if we got him for not much. ...

Rookie?

 

[Demon 16]

Aside from the 'what Priority Pick should/will we get' discussion..

is it just me, or is this the shittest article of the year from The Age;

Dees fall short of priority pick

Melbourne's request for a priority pick in the national draft is in the spotlight.

But before one is given away, let's consider Melbourne's history with the priority pick. In the past 10 years, the Demons have had three, and used them to select Colin Sylvia, Sam Blease and Tom Scully. Sylvia has been the best of the bunch. In 2010, he was on the verge of being an elite player, averaging 96 fantasy points a game. But he has slid backwards.

Blease showed promise in his first two years, but was poor in 2013, playing just 10 games and averaging only 31 fantasy points a game. Scully had two promising seasons with Melbourne before jumping ship and joining Greater Western Sydney.

Carlton has had four priority picks in the same period and used them to select great on-field performers Andrew Walker, Matthew Kreuzer and Marc Murphy, while Shaun Hampson has failed to reach those heights.

The Western Bulldogs acquired Adam Cooney and Ryan Griffen, the Tigers landed Brett Deledio and Alex Rance. More recently the Eagles snared Luke Shuey and Jack Darling.

All things considered, it poses the question: why have none of Melbourne's priority picks reached the standard of these players? The numbers simply don't support the Demons' case for a priority pick.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Yes, it is quite shit.

 

[CWaffles]

Aside from the 'what Priority Pick should/will we get' discussion..

is it just me, or is this the shittest article of the year from The Age;

Dees fall short of priority pick

I am actually in the office laughing, is this really an article? I tell you journalism has always been bad but this is terrible. What has that go to do with the price of eggs? because our priority picks haven't been as good as the other clubs?

Go back and look at most of our young kids since then, there haven't been many that have actually developed into super players, if they had then we wouldn't be having this convo.

Any of those 3 would have developed into guns at the right club, unfortunately it wasn't our selections but the rest of the coaching staff and development team.

I couldn't see a PP come in under Roos and failing.

 

[Tulip]

Aside from the 'what Priority Pick should/will we get' discussion..

is it just me, or is this the shittest article of the year from The Age;

Dees fall short of priority pick

Aww, geee, hmm - is it because one was pick 17 and the other one left after 2 years?

 

[Demon 16]

I'm not going to debate the merits of us having a priority pick right now - just to point out that this article genuinely reads like a 13 year old kid has written it for his year 7 homework.

How on earth is this printed in our national paper??

 

[ponsdale]

How on earth is this printed in our national paper??

The Age isn't a national paper. Very Victorian.

But your point remains, that's shit 'journalism'.

 

[Viney]

Measuring their performances on "fantasy points"

Fantasy land

 

[thetank]

Measuring their performances on "fantasy points"

Fantasy land

We had the NAB rising star in Dean Terlich, based on fantasy points.

 

[Viney]

We had the NAB rising star in Dean Terlich, based on fantasy points.

Shows how meaningless they are

 

[Cannon82]

I am actually in the office laughing, is this really an article? I tell you journalism has always been bad but this is terrible. What has that go to do with the price of eggs? because our priority picks haven't been as good as the other clubs?

Go back and look at most of our young kids since then, there haven't been many that have actually developed into super players, if they had then we wouldn't be having this convo.

Any of those 3 would have developed into guns at the right club, unfortunately it wasn't our selections but the rest of the coaching staff and development team.

I couldn't see a PP come in under Roos and failing.

You could also make a fair case on that basis that our 4th, 5th, 6th round picks etc aren't living up to expectation and we should lose those too.

 

[RandB]

Aside from the 'what Priority Pick should/will we get' discussion..

is it just me, or is this the shittest article of the year from The Age;

Dees fall short of priority pick

I'm dumber for having read that.

It's not just our PPs, its our whole list which has been underdeveloped. Hence 2 wins & 50%.

Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.

Just to humour this muppet though, Blease was 2nd round and copped a broken leg, Scully was poached in an AFL sanctioned move and Sylvia has always been one of our better players in a struggling team. I don't mind constructive counter-points but this is just tripe.

Furthermore, what is his ultimate point? We shouldn't get a PP because based on our history, ignoring our whole over-hall as a club, we won't use it to good effect? Ridiculous and irrelevant argument. Under Roos, we could develop a youngster well or trade the pick. My god talk about taking liberties with your rubbish.

 

[Viney]

I'm dumber for having read that.

It's not just our PPs, its our whole list which has been underdeveloped. Hence 2 wins & 50%.

Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.

Just to humour this muppet though, Blease was 2nd round and copped a broken leg, Scully was poached in an AFL sanctioned move and Sylvia has always been one of our better players in a struggling team. I don't mind constructive counter-points but this is just tripe.

Furthermore, what is his ultimate point? We shouldn't get a PP because based on our history, ignoring our whole over-hall as a club, we won't use it to good effect? Ridiculous and irrelevant argument. Under Roos, we could develop a youngster well or trade the pick. My god talk about taking liberties with your rubbish.

If we've made no progress in 2 years time under what appears as a stable admin and top line FD team - then I can see it being relevant

But those responsible for past "sins" are gone - Roos deserves the best chance possible to get the ship sailing right

 

[dee_mac]

article only deserves one response

 

[Black Dynamite]

article only deserves one response

One of my favourite movies for both quotes and visual gags.

 

[RandB]

If we've made no progress in 2 years time under what appears as a stable admin and top line FD team - then I can see it being relevant

The PP system is part of AFL legislation and is a system just like the national draft. Many teams have wasted national draft picks 1 way or the other but we aren't arguing that their picks should be revoked because of it. The PP is no different. Just like the ND, the PP has a specific purpose and like the ND prior history is irrelevant. Yes, the AFL has made it a discretionary system now but it is a system none-the less that was brought in for a very simple reason that people can't get their collective heads around.

If we get a PP under Roos I expect him to use it to good effect whether that be trade or development but if we don't it won't change the fundamental point of the PP which is a leg up to struggling clubs.

If the AFL don't want to handout a PP to us because the other clubs are sick of it then scrap the PP because it will be a farce. Not a bad outcome either.

 

[Devastating Boris]

article only deserves one response

Burning dog poop and the human response? Oh wait... I get where your going

Someone should have made Schwabby do "business ethics"

 

[Tulip]

I miss the Age pre-Gina. When it was a broadsheet, written for a reading level of 9, rather than 6 like the Sun.

 

[PitchBlease]

I miss the Age pre-Gina. When it was a broadsheet, written for a reading level of 9, rather than 6 like the Sun.

Wonna in 5,4,3,2...

 

[Tulip]

Wonna in 5,4,3,2...

1

 

[Dez!]

I want Aish.

 

[LeverPuller]

1

2 hours later, no Wona.

Did Brisbane have a free Bundy day and the city is sinking under the vomit...

 

[Andy_Mac]

2 hours later, no Wona.

Did Brisbane have a free Bundy day and the city is sinking under the vomit...

He is still in the legends room at the gabba screaming like a drunk school girl.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Wonna in 5,4,3,2...

1

2 hours later, no Wona.

Sometimes the anticipation is the best part

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Should never have left, i was rabid about it at the time and the trade only looked worse all year. Mark Neeld made that many bad decisions my god.

I'd say the fact that the pussy wants out of NM after one year (if true) indicates that Neeld was right on the money with booting Gysberts.