Teams 2013 Rate my SuperCoach Team

[joop]

I think this team is really well balanced and has quite a few good POD options. If I had to make any criticism it would be whether you think you're going to get enough bang for your buck out of Robinson & Varcoe, but really I cannot fault that list. Very good team!

Please rate my team:

Backs: Goddard, Gibbs, Watts, Heppell, Vlastuin, B. Goodes (Hibberd, Colquhoun)

Mids: Pendlebury, Beams, Bennell, Fyfe, Moloney, Crouch, O'Meara, Viney (K. Mitchell, Kommer)

Rucks: Roughead, J. Griffin (Witts, Currie)

Fwds: Cox, Bartel, Rockliff, Walters, Karnezis, Macaffer (Neade, Lee)

Try something out, line your team up with a whole lotta teams that have Ablett and Buddy in them and see if you think you'd win.
I've said this to so many people as I tried this last year and thought id get both after they dropped in price. End of the day, it's not worth leaving them out just to save 100k down the track.

 

[Sir Skid]

Try something out, line your team up with a whole lotta teams that have Ablett and Buddy in them and see if you think you'd win.
I've said this to so many people as I tried this last year and thought id get both after they dropped in price. End of the day, it's not worth leaving them out just to save 100k down the track.

I agree with Joop on this.
You may save 100k now but to get them later could see you 5 or 600 points behind and scrambling for enough coin to get them.

 

[Yoda_]

I like this team, very heavily stacked in the Backs and Mids IMO but some good point of difference choices in Boyd and Byrnes if they pay off.

Big risks with Suban and Macaffer, but if they pay off than you'll be laughing.

With the lack of rookie forwards, I am seriously considering picking one of Staker or Maccafer and sitting them on the bench for when they do come up (to be honest, the more i think about it, the less likely I will do it).

I am confident of my rookie forwards who are going to play, however there is still another round of practice matches and the teams to be announced come round 1 will surely (hopefully) throw up some curve balls and some possible other rookie forwards to select.

For the record, I am also going for a couple of mid priced/lower priced forwards in Shannon Byrnes (almost guaranteed a place in the demons 21 and doesn't exactly need to average heaps - 60+ is a win for a player at his price) and also Travis Varcoe (really impressed with the way he has come back from his injuries, was him or Josh Kennedy and Varcoe has better job security in my eyes).

Mid pricers are the big key this year and taking the risks will pay off handsomely for those willing to have a crack.

 

[Jiska]

DEF: Goddard, Shaw, Gibbs, Vlastuin, Goodes, Docherty, (Stevenson, Terlich)

MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Cotchin, Stevens, Wines, K.Mitchell, O'meara, (Crouch, Viney)

RUC: Roughead, Jacobs, (Rowe, Currie)

FWD: Franklin, Cox, Rockliff, S.Johnson, Karnezis, Macaffer, (Kerridge, Neade)

I know Johnson is suspended round 1 but i think that will make him a good POD and I'm willing to take the hit.

I actually printed this out for analysis on the way home, because I liked the look of it. Is very similar to what my initial team was before all the changes. Now that I've had a good look, here's my feedback:

Shaw, Pendlebury, Roughead, Franklin, Cox, Johnson and Ablett - these are what *I* consider "going nowhere" players. Ie. They are consistent and they are unlikely to score much differently to last year.

Ablett, lock. Mainly because if your opposition have him and you don't, he could hurt you big time. Lock for Captain so a must have even with big price.

Franklin: Hawthorns first 7 rounds are against final 8 participants from last year, so you could argue on going with someone like Zorko and saving the $70k cash and upgrading around Round 5-6

Shaw: Unlikely to improve his scores much, therefore, are you better opting for Hanley, Duffield, Hartlett (if he stays fit) or ideally Heppell (now he'll play Midfield rather than back) and saving yourself $50-100k to spend elsewhere

Pendlebury: Again, unlikely to improve substantially. I'd opt for Moloney ($360 odd), who is only cheap because Melb had a falling out with him. Club B&F in 2011 and looked super in the NAB Cup. An easy $200k to be made here, and he'll score 90-110 each week. Upgrade to Pendles later with the cash?

Roughead: Just don't think he's consistent enough at the price - others will disagree no doubt

Cox: I'd still keep him, just because he'll score with Nic Nat out, and the dual status makes him a no brainer

Johnson: Consistency?

I'd also look at Pittard instead of Docherty.

The changes suggested there should net you around $500k - some good coin. Just enough to swap one of those rookie midfielders for either Fyfe or Bennell - both headed for improvement IMO.

Starting with four rookies in the midfield is dangerous in my book.

 

[TargaryenDragon]

Seeing as Leuy is unlikely to play, i was thinking of perhaps switching him with say Vardy, giving me a extra 60,000 to upgrade Embley. Thoughts?

 

[KardiniaPark]

Seeing as Leuy is unlikely to play, i was thinking of perhaps switching him with say Vardy, giving me a extra 60,000 to upgrade Embley. Thoughts?

No one is sure when Vardy will play, pretty sure it won't be anytime soon.

 

[soyy]

I actually printed this out for analysis on the way home, because I liked the look of it. Is very similar to what my initial team was before all the changes. Now that I've had a good look, here's my feedback:

Shaw, Pendlebury, Roughead, Franklin, Cox, Johnson and Ablett - these are what *I* consider "going nowhere" players. Ie. They are consistent and they are unlikely to score much differently to last year.

Ablett, lock. Mainly because if your opposition have him and you don't, he could hurt you big time. Lock for Captain so a must have even with big price.

Franklin: Hawthorns first 7 rounds are against final 8 participants from last year, so you could argue on going with someone like Zorko and saving the $70k cash and upgrading around Round 5-6

Shaw: Unlikely to improve his scores much, therefore, are you better opting for Hanley, Duffield, Hartlett (if he stays fit) or ideally Heppell (now he'll play Midfield rather than back) and saving yourself $50-100k to spend elsewhere

Pendlebury: Again, unlikely to improve substantially. I'd opt for Moloney ($360 odd), who is only cheap because Melb had a falling out with him. Club B&F in 2011 and looked super in the NAB Cup. An easy $200k to be made here, and he'll score 90-110 each week. Upgrade to Pendles later with the cash?

Roughead: Just don't think he's consistent enough at the price - others will disagree no doubt

Cox: I'd still keep him, just because he'll score with Nic Nat out, and the dual status makes him a no brainer

Johnson: Consistency?

I'd also look at Pittard instead of Docherty.

The changes suggested there should net you around $500k - some good coin. Just enough to swap one of those rookie midfielders for either Fyfe or Bennell - both headed for improvement IMO.

Starting with four rookies in the midfield is dangerous in my book.

Thanks a lot for the advice!

I originally had Luenberger as my R2 instead of Roughead and had Fyfe in the mids instead of Stevens and Had Hanley in Defence among others but changed my team around a lot due to Luenberger's situation.

I'm still not sold on Roughead and was tossing up with him, Bellchambers and Mumford and settled on Roughy but may change.

I was going to have Zorko in forwards instead of Johnson but wasn't sure about having 3 Lions in the forwards?

Pendlebury I'd want to keep because he's consistent and I think I may struggle to get him in later. Same with Franklin if he fires early.

Might think about Shaw to Hanley or Heppel and Roughead to Bellchambers and play around a bit.

Thanks again

 

[Yoda_]

Thanks a lot for the advice!

I originally had Luenberger as my R2 instead of Roughead and had Fyfe in the mids instead of Stevens and Had Hanley in Defence among others but changed my team around a lot due to Luenberger's situation.

I'm still not sold on Roughead and was tossing up with him, Bellchambers and Mumford and settled on Roughy but may change.

I was going to have Zorko in forwards instead of Johnson but wasn't sure about having 3 Lions in the forwards?

Pendlebury I'd want to keep because he's consistent and I think I may struggle to get him in later. Same with Franklin if he fires early.

Might think about Shaw to Hanley or Heppel and Roughead to Bellchambers and play around a bit.

Thanks again

Just remember, even though they might not improve there average, they are still worthwhile additions to your team.

Would love to hear some feedback on this new team v759.8

Backs:
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Brendon Goddard (mid)
Greg Broughton (for)
Chris Newman
Nick Vlastuin (mid)
Brett Goodes (mid)
Lewis Stevenson
Campbell Heath
Sam Colghoun*

Midfielders:
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Gary Ablett
Patrick Dangerfield
Trent Cotton
Marc Murphy
Travis Boak
Kane Mitchell
Jaegar O'Meara
Jack Viney
Nathan Hrovat *

Rucks:
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Sam Jacobs
Shane Mumford
Same Rowe (for)
Majak Daw

Forwards:
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Lance Franklin
Dean Cox (ruck)
Tom Rockliff (mid)
Tom Hawkins
Travis Varcoe (mid)
Shannon Byrnes
Jake Neade (mid)
Tom Lee

+ $73,200 left

Just realised I have 6 Port Adelaide players in my side, all good value picks, 5 cash cows too.

 

[Shibada123]

Pendlebury: Again, unlikely to improve substantially. I'd opt for Moloney ($360 odd), who is only cheap because Melb had a falling out with him. Club B&F in 2011 and looked super in the NAB Cup. An easy $200k to be made here, and he'll score 90-110 each week. Upgrade to Pendles later with the cash?

No one should take Moloney over Pendles. Pendles is a supercoach stud, he doesn't need to improve.

 

[Strahany]

Just remember, even though they might not improve there average, they are still worthwhile additions to your team.

Would love to hear some feedback on this new team v759.8

I can't see any obvious structural issues, so as long as you stick to this, you should be fine. The only variables that remain are which players to select to suit your structures, which everyone has a different opinion on, and I think what you have is just fine.

 

[Strahany]

I'm pretty happy with my side at the moment. I've gone with ultra-premiums (or the best available premiums for their respective position) that I believe are safe choices, and I have also chosen a couple of cheaper premiums that I believe will improve this year (namely Shuey and Bennell).

The only thing that I would consider changing is downgrading Kane Mitchell to Colquohoun, upgrading Bennell to Montagna (I believe both will improve this year; Bennell has a higher ceiling, but Montagna has NAB form.....), and then scrapping the risk of Leuenberger by picking up Hickey.

Thoughts on that above change, and the current state of my side?

 

[Jiska]

No one should take Moloney over Pendles. Pendles is a supercoach stud, he doesn't need to improve.

$300k is a big difference for the output.

 

[thepokey]

Ok, another version!

BACKS: Goddard, Gibbs, Heppell, Houli, Goodes, Pittard (Docherty, Trelich)

MIDS: Ablett, Watson, Dangerfield, Fyfe, Moloney, K. Mitchell, Crouch, O'Meara (Viney, Colquhoun)

RUCKS: Roughhead, Bellchambers (Currie, Rowe)

FORWARDS: Cox, Walker, Rockliff, Martin, Varcoe, Macaffer (Kerridge, Neade)

$105k in the bank for upgrading, possibly getting Buddy in ... first draft I've made without him which is of course a risk.

 

[fitzroybowiedog]

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, i keep changing my mind

Def: Goddard, Shaw, Gibbs, Vlastuin, Goodes, Terlich (Docerty, Stevenson)
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Dangerfield, Jack, Crouch, O'Meara, Viney (Towers, Colquhoun)
Ruck: Goldstein, Leuenberger (Gorringe, Currie)
Fwd: Franklin, Walker, Bartel, Rockliff, Varcoe, MacAffer (Neade, Lamb)

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, i keep changing my mind

Def: Goddard, Shaw, Gibbs, Vlastuin, Goodes, Terlich (Docerty, Stevenson)
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Dangerfield, Jack, Crouch, O'Meara, Viney (Towers, Colquhoun)
Ruck: Goldstein, Leuenberger (Gorringe, Currie)
Fwd: Franklin, Walker, Bartel, Rockliff, Varcoe, MacAffer (Neade, Lamb)

Perfect side. Maybe Colquhorn could be changed but I like that side. Alot

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Ok, another version!

BACKS: Goddard, Gibbs, Heppell, Houli, Goodes, Pittard (Docherty, Trelich)

MIDS: Ablett, Watson, Dangerfield, Fyfe, Moloney, K. Mitchell, Crouch, O'Meara (Viney, Colquhoun)

RUCKS: Roughhead, Bellchambers (Currie, Rowe)

FORWARDS: Cox, Walker, Rockliff, Martin, Varcoe, Macaffer (Kerridge, Neade)

$105k in the bank for upgrading, possibly getting Buddy in ... first draft I've made without him which is of course a risk.

Unique picks, some risk. Another good side. Pittard still looks iffy for mine. Mighe be worth considering others when the teams are read out

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Might think about Shaw to Hanley or Heppel and Roughead to Bellchambers and play around a bit.

Thanks again

Shaw will still be top 5 backs this year.

I am backing him in with Bucks

 

[Double the Fist]

Just remember, even though they might not improve there average, they are still worthwhile additions to your team.

Would love to hear some feedback on this new team v759.8

Backs:
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Brendon Goddard (mid)
Greg Broughton (for)
Chris Newman
Nick Vlastuin (mid)
Brett Goodes (mid)
Lewis Stevenson
Campbell Heath
Sam Colghoun*

Midfielders:
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Gary Ablett
Patrick Dangerfield
Trent Cotton
Marc Murphy
Travis Boak
Kane Mitchell
Jaegar O'Meara
Jack Viney
Nathan Hrovat *

Rucks:
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Sam Jacobs
Shane Mumford
Same Rowe (for)
Majak Daw

Forwards:
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Lance Franklin
Dean Cox (ruck)
Tom Rockliff (mid)
Tom Hawkins
Travis Varcoe (mid)
Shannon Byrnes
Jake Neade (mid)
Tom Lee

+ $73,200 left

Just realised I have 6 Port Adelaide players in my side, all good value picks, 5 cash cows too.

Personally, I'd put Currie than Daw. Same price I think, anyway with your cash left over you could do it.
Tom Lee s doing my head in, hugely mixed reports weather or not he'll get a regular gig.

Can I ask why you have Heath instead of say, Pittard in your backs?

Good luck (ps May take a while for Mummy to get back to decent scores mate, brace for a price drop)

 

[Patty Healey]

My Updated team includes

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Enright, Broughton, Vlaustin, Goodes, Colquhuon, Terlich

M) Abllett, Swan, Cotchin, Thompson, Moloney, Stevens, Mitchell, O'Meara, Viney

R) Jacobs, Vardy, Currie, Rowe

F) Franklin, Cox, Martin, Bartel, Varcoe, MacCaffer, Kerridge, Lee

Does anyone see any value in Zac Smith as a second ruck option?

I had him in until I saw he had 2 possessions last week and was subbed off at 3 qtr time. Still could be great value though.

 

[Nasty Penguin]

Appreciate an outside opinion on this side. Had it locked in until Leunberger fell over which just threw everything out the window.

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Vlastuin, Pittard, Stevenson, Docherty, Terlich, Goodes.

M) Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Cotchin, Heppell, Viney, Crouch, Omeara, Wines, Hill.B

R) Ryder, Cox, Rowe, Currie

F) Buddy, Rockcliff, Martin, Kennedy, Varcoe, Macaffer, Neade, Lee

Forward line has me stumped this year. Cheers for any input.

 

[Jiska]

No one should take Moloney over Pendles. Pendles is a supercoach stud, he doesn't need to improve.

That's your opinion. Moloney in 2011 (B&F) consistently outputted 100-110 points. Pendles outputs 130 odd on average. If you think $300k extra for 20 points per week is worth it, go for it. Luke Ball (not playing week 1) and Brent Moloney combined are worth the same $ as Pendles, but even if they only score 100 points each week that's 200 net points for the same price as Pendles 130-140 points per week. I'd also argue that 200 points per week for Moloney and Ball combined is probably very conservative.

If it was Player A at 50 points a week for $200k and Player B at 70 points a week for $500k, you'd take Player A every day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Don't get sidetracked by the fact that the players name is Pendlebury.

 

[Jesse G]

THOUGHTS?
Bold is for premium and underline is for Mid-Price - 56,800 Left over?


BACKS- Goddard , Gibbs , B.Ellis , T.Armstrong , Goodes , Docherty (Terlich , Vlaustin)
MIDS - Ablett , Pendelbury , Watson , Dangerfield , Newnes , Seedsmen , Crouch , Omeara (Kommer, Viney)
RUCKS - Cox , Maric - (Currie, Rowe)
FORWARDS - Franklin , Walker , Zorko , Sipposs ,Varcoe , Mccaffer (Daniher , Mayes)

 

[Tigey]

Appreciate an outside opinion on this side. Had it locked in until Leunberger fell over which just threw everything out the window.

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Vlastuin, Pittard, Stevenson, Docherty, Terlich, Goodes.

M) Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Cotchin, Heppell, Viney, Crouch, Omeara, Wines, Hill.B

R) Ryder, Cox, Rowe, Currie

F) Buddy, Rockcliff, Martin, Kennedy, Varcoe, Macaffer, Neade, Lee

Forward line has me stumped this year. Cheers for any input.

One of the better sides I have seen!!

 

[toxic]

That's your opinion. Moloney in 2011 (B&F) consistently outputted 100-110 points. Pendles outputs 130 odd on average. If you think $300k extra for 20 points per week is worth it, go for it. Luke Ball (not playing week 1) and Brent Moloney combined are worth the same $ as Pendles, but even if they only score 100 points each week that's 200 net points for the same price as Pendles 130-140 points per week. I'd also argue that 200 points per week for Moloney and Ball combined is probably very conservative.

If it was Player A at 50 points a week for $200k and Player B at 70 points a week for $500k, you'd take Player A every day of the week, and twice on Sundays. Don't get sidetracked by the fact that the players name is Pendlebury.

As a pies supporter and knowing the roll Luke ball plays he will not average 100, he will average somewhere between 80-90 IMO and will be nursed back to full game fitness. Moloney might average 100-105 if all goes very well.
I also would take Pendles straight up if you can afford him - will easily be top 6 by years end. just my 2 cents worth

 

[toxic]

Appreciate an outside opinion on this side. Had it locked in until Leunberger fell over which just threw everything out the window.

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Vlastuin, Pittard, Stevenson, Docherty, Terlich, Goodes.

M) Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Cotchin, Heppell, Viney, Crouch, Omeara, Wines, Hill.B

R) Ryder, Cox, Rowe, Currie

F) Buddy, Rockcliff, Martin, Kennedy, Varcoe, Macaffer, Neade, Lee

Forward line has me stumped this year. Cheers for any input.

Why Heppell in the mids? this would be my only concern (apart from the fwd rookie dilemma everyone is facing) - if Heppel swapped to Defence in place of Duffman you could afford a pretty gun (not quite premo) for about 500K depending on how much cash you had left, such as a Mundy