NFL 2014 Pre-Season Discussion

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Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter
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From me and Adam Caplan: Cincinnati and Bengals QB Andy Dalton reached agreement on a 6-year, $115 million contract, per two sources.

 

[BomberWatson]

I think Brady and Belichick kind of made each other to be honest, don't really think one's more responsible than the other for the success of the Patriots.

Oh and LMFAO @ Cinci!

 

[Dagless]

I disagree about Belichick made Brady. I think Brady made Belichick. Belichick is a great coach, but it was Brady who lifted that organization to win. The Tuck Rule was him. The playoffs. The Super Bowl. And the other Super Bowl wins. Far more Brady than Belichick. Belichick has done very little without Brady. And Brady did it all without any receivers, which further highlights it was Brady who made Belichick (unlike the receiving corp Peyton Manning has always had).

Can comfortably say fair enough. I was closer to lopping him in with the first group too, even if his developmental years were afforded to him similarly to Roethlisberger (obvious talent who had a truly consistent elite D to back him up)

 

[Dagless]

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From me and Adam Caplan: Cincinnati and Bengals QB Andy Dalton reached agreement on a 6-year, $115 million contract, per two sources.

I was just thinking about what I truly thought of Dalton.

And I've always been one to give him more credit than most around here as a potentially developing QB...

 

[Dirty Bird]

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From me and Adam Caplan: Cincinnati and Bengals QB Andy Dalton reached agreement on a 6-year, $115 million contract, per two sources.

If Dalton got that. Kellen Moore deserves $150M over 6 years.

 

[Zealbee]

Bengals have lost their mind. Anyone know the guaranteed money or outs in the contract? Might not be that bad if they can get out of it easily.

 

[dlanod]

Bengals have lost their mind. Anyone know the guaranteed money or outs in the contract? Might not be that bad if they can get out of it easily.

Reports are similar to Kaepernick's - the club can cut him at the end of any year without too many issues.

 

[sblack]

Wilson likely to retire. Poor guy

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wilson likely to retire. Poor guy

Yeah terrible news for the guy.

Best of luck to him on his new path if he goes.

Neck's need to harden up

 

[Sven]

Reports are similar to Kaepernick's - the club can cut him at the end of any year without too many issues.

Yup. dalton's contract only has more than $10 million in dead money for one year ( 2014) and the team could conceivably cut him next year if they wanted to. $16 million a year is about right for a mid tier QB.

 

[ausbacker]

That sounds like it should be a joke about the Patriots and not Eli.....

It's a painful reminder.

 

[Shermy]

It's a painful reminder.

That wasn't a like for the pain btw

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Very good article for once by PFT....

Lack of HGH testing could contribute to Gordon suspension
Posted by Mike Florio on July 29, 2014, 5:17 PM EDT

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A difference of reporting exists as to whether an agreement on HGH testing would or wouldn’t result in a relaxed marijuana testing threshold for NFL players. While no tentative agreement to use a higher limit for marijuana metabolites has been reached, it’s clear that the NFL would listen, if the NFLPA makes a request along those lines in an effort to break the lingering logjam arising from the authority of the Commissioner in PED/HGH appeals.

Regardless, the NFL’s current limit of 15 ng/ml needs to change, especially since (as pointed out by ESPN’s Bomani Jones) the World Anti-Doping Agency raised its limit by an order or magnitude in 2013, from 15 to 150 ng/ml.

A low limit of 15 ng/ml can be reached via second-hand smoke. As pointed out by ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Gordon’s appeal also will advance that argument.

No matter how or why or when the NFL adopts a higher limit, it will be grossly overdue and any positive tests or suspensions based on anything lower than the WADA limits will be grossly unfair — especially since the NFL has been consistently pointing to WADA to support its proposed HGH testing protocol.

Under the current policy as previously negotiated by the NFL and the NFLPA, arguments based on the disparity between Gordon’s “A” bottle and “B” bottle and whether the average concentration (based on the split sample) of 14.8 ng/ml in the two bottles came from second-hand smoke won’t matter. A strict, literal application of the policy will result in Gordon being suspended for a full year, during which time he’ll be completely banished from his team and required to continue to pass up to 10 tests per months, or he won’t be reinstated.

If any notion of fairness and common sense is applied to the appeal process, Gordon won’t be suspended at all. Especially since the NFL apparently hasn’t and won’t subject Colts owner Jim Irsay to the same kind of rigorous testing for an admitted addiction that, if it’s not cured, eventually would result in Irsay being kicked out of the league for at least a year, too.

A year suspension for smoking weed when PED's seem abundant in the league??? What a ridiculous policy, hope Gordon gets off.

 

[Toadvine]

How will all the players who already have suspensions (6 games etc) for using weed feel if Gordon gets off?

It won't happen for that reason. I see a 10 game suspension or something like that. He won't get off entirely.

 

[Shupe]

Bryant v Wilcox fight was shit. Overblown big time.

 

[Blacky]

Hageman is ok too

 

[Shupe]

I have no idea what prompts someone to take a swing at a ****ing helmet. Those things are rock hard.

 

[Shermy]

I have no idea what prompts someone to take a swing at a ******* helmet. Those things are rock hard.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

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From me and Adam Caplan: Cincinnati and Bengals QB Andy Dalton reached agreement on a 6-year, $115 million contract, per two sources.

Why would the Bengals do that?

 

[Exe Gesis]

Dalton ain't bad. He will be better under Jackson's system.

 

[Shupe]

Why would the Bengals do that?

I guess middle-of-the-road is still worth paying. Again, like Kaeper, heavily performance based. Makes sense.

 

[Dagless]

I have no idea what prompts someone to take a swing at a ******* helmet. Those things are rock hard.

Roidz, roidz erywhere

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Just seen the Reggie Bush promo on 7mate. As Big Kev used to say "I'm excited!"

 

[Dixie Flatline]

 

[Blacky]

Way to go