Training 2015/16 preseason training (discussion)

[gaskin]

I haven't taken much notice of where he has been training but if I remember I'll keep an eye out when they come back.

 

[Dockernut]

I heard he didn't finish because he got distracted by an icecream van driving past Freo Oval.

Was it full of mirrors?

 

[E Shed]

I believe Hughes may turn out to be the real surprise packet of our recent drafting.
Just looks to have that something special.

 

[Gekko71]

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I believe Hughes may turn out to be the real surprise packet of our recent drafting.
Just looks to have that something special.

Agreed E-shed, I recently watched his debut game against Port Adelaide again - 22 possessions on debut and some very nice plays in there to boot.

Worth watching to see Tabs dominating up forward as well. He had some shocking misses due to a lack of composure, but he also looked bloody dangerous early and could conceivably have kicked 4 goals in the first quarter but for some silly mistakes.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Interesting article on the Freo site about Ethan Hughes:

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2015-12-30/ill-push-as-hard-as-i-can-hughes

"Fremantle midfielder Ethan Hughes says he will do everything in his power to earn a playing role this season after recently being promoted to the senior list.

“I’ll push as hard as I can, train as hard as I can and do everything I can to get a kick,” he said.

“[I’ll put my] best foot forward to keep training as hard as I can.”

Hughes elected to keep his off-season brief by working on his own training ahead of his second pre-season with Fremantle.

“I just went to Bali for a week and everything else was back in Perth training to get my body right and get ready for pre-season,” he said.

“It’s great to get back out there with the boys.

“It’s starting to get into the full swing of things, [I’m] loving it.”​

Apart from the fact Ethan came back early to train (a promising sign!), this is the first time I've seen him be referred to as a midfielder by the club.

Hey training watchers, has Ethan been doing mostly back-line drills so far at training, or is this an early indication of a possible role-change (...y'know...so that Morra can slot in there at HB )

Ethan has clearly gained size over the break.
I have said elsewhere he could play forward this year. It appears he has taken his elevation to the main list as his big chance.
He has trained as well as anybody however no particular grouping has emerged, that I have noticed.
I expect a heavier, match simulation focus on training when the boys return next week. We may see what role they have in mind for Ethan then.
In the meantime he looks very focused; the article is spot on.
The change in his physique is stark.

 

[theGav56]

Fred....The only suggestion that I have seen anywhere that he may possibly play forward is in your posts. Does it have any foundation beyond your imagination?

 

[freoextra]

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Agreed E-shed, I recently watched his debut game against Port Adelaide again - 22 possessions on debut and some very nice plays in there to boot.

Worth watching to see Tabs dominating up forward as well. He had some shocking misses due to a lack of composure, but he also looked bloody dangerous early and could conceivably have kicked 4 goals in the first quarter but for some silly mistakes.

On Tabs game, it was one of his better games and could have been because he was the main target. We all hope he gets better, I really hope he can improve his marking (reasonable assumption is that he will, ala Sandi), but equally I hope he gets a better feel for the game so the "silly mistakes" can start to lessen.

 

[Super Hans]

Has Sandi done most of the preseason? I had a look through your training reports and he hardly got a mention.

Cheers.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Has Sandi done most of the preseason? I had a look through your training reports and he hardly got a mention.

Cheers.

I believe so, because if he didn't do much of training, it is would have gotten a mention.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Fred....The only suggestion that I have seen anywhere that he may possibly play forward is in your posts. Does it have any foundation beyond your imagination?

I realise that we have numerous options for our defense and have just added to it in the draft with Collins and Tucker.
Ethan Hughes is a good mark and a good kick and not a particularly slow player. He now also has size.
The club has elevated him to the main list so, obviously they see a lot in him. I don't see him pushing out any of our classy mids for which there is now a queue forming or our defense which is in a similar healthy state; That leaves the forward line for which he has all the attributes. And given we have been exposed in the forward line, I have rationalised he may be in line for that role.

 

[gaskin]

Has Sandi done most of the preseason? I had a look through your training reports and he hardly got a mention.

Cheers.

Yes for the most part.

 

[theGav56]

I realise that we have numerous options for our forward line and have just added to it in the draft with Yarran and Uberganger. Plus of course Bennell and Tabs developing.
Ethan Hughes is a good mark and a good kick and not a particularly slow player. He now also has size.
The club has elevated him to the main list so, obviously they see a lot in him. I don't see him pushing out any of our classy mids for which there is now a queue forming or our forwards which is in a similar healthy state; That leaves the defence for which he has all the attributes and is where he has experience. And given we have been exposed in the back line by small speedy forwards, I have rationalised he may be in line for that role.

Had a go at Devils Advocate above.

I obviously don't know him as well as you but I think our forward issues are overstated, or more correctly, won't be remedied by anything other than a quality KPF. I have my doubts that is what he will become and he seems more a possible Mayne replacement.

My hunch is Hurley or Apeness have a greater chance to become our forward solutions than Hughes.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Had a go at Devils Advocate.

I obviously don't know him as well as you but I think our forward issues are overstated, or more correctly, won't be remedied by anything other than a quality KPF. I have my doubts that is what he will become and he seems more a possible Mayne replacement.

My hunch is Hurley or Apeness have a greater chance to become our forward solutions than Hughes.

Why bother quoting me if you are going reverse edit it .
In the absence of another KPF, we are needing to make do with what is available hence the drafting of Yaz.
From what I saw of Apeness last week, he is a long way off in his recovery.
So, we are left with continuing with the same players that haven't been able to get the extra goals we want or try something new.
I have said before I have lost confidence in Taberner and apart from robbing Peter to pay Paul by using Alex Pearce as a KPF, we have very little else we can try.
It is not just me stating we do not score enough goals, every bastard is saying it and presumably that is why we tried so hard to trade McCarthy.
Seeing as we failed there and given our lack of quality talls , we have brought in a seriously fast alternative that may get the job done as an interim measure. That seems like an infinitely reasonable and sensible move while we wait for Cam McCarthy.
Ethan Hughes is only another option. We have something in mind for him and I have merely opined it may be a forward role owing to the depth we have in the other areas.
It is an opinion and other training watchers have commented on his impressive size and mobility albeit still not a KPP size.
Ultimately, we can either try something new or do nothing and pray.

BTW, I will be amazed if Sean Hurley ever plays for Freo and very surprised if he stars at Peel.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Interesting article on the Freo site about Ethan Hughes:

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2015-12-30/ill-push-as-hard-as-i-can-hughes

"Fremantle midfielder Ethan Hughes says he will do everything in his power to earn a playing role this season after recently being promoted to the senior list.

“I’ll push as hard as I can, train as hard as I can and do everything I can to get a kick,” he said.

“[I’ll put my] best foot forward to keep training as hard as I can.”

Hughes elected to keep his off-season brief by working on his own training ahead of his second pre-season with Fremantle.

“I just went to Bali for a week and everything else was back in Perth training to get my body right and get ready for pre-season,” he said.

“It’s great to get back out there with the boys.

“It’s starting to get into the full swing of things, [I’m] loving it.”​

Apart from the fact Ethan came back early to train (a promising sign!), this is the first time I've seen him be referred to as a midfielder by the club.

Hey training watchers, has Ethan been doing mostly back-line drills so far at training, or is this an early indication of a possible role-change (...y'know...so that Morra can slot in there at HB )

I can categorically say that Ethan Hughes has been training with the midfield group. I sit under the fig trees next to the mid group each session.

 

[sherrif]

Why bother quoting me if you are going reverse edit it .
In the absence of another KPF, we are needing to make do with what is available hence the drafting of Yaz.
From what I saw of Apeness last week, he is a long way off in his recovery.
So, we are left with continuing with the same players that haven't been able to get the extra goals we want or try something new.
I have said before I have lost confidence in Taberner and apart from robbing Peter to pay Paul by using Alex Pearce as a KPF, we have very little else we can try.
It is not just me stating we do not score enough goals, every bastard is saying it and presumably that is why we tried so hard to trade McCarthy.
Seeing as we failed there and given our lack of quality talls , we have brought in a seriously fast alternative that may get the job done as an interim measure. That seems like an infinitely reasonable and sensible move while we wait for Cam McCarthy.
Ethan Hughes is only another option. We have something in mind for him and I have merely opined it may be a forward role owing to the depth we have in the other areas.
It is an opinion and other training watchers have commented on his impressive size and mobility albeit still not a KPP size.
Ultimately, we can either try something new or do nothing and pray.

BTW, I will be amazed if Sean Hurley ever plays for Freo and very surprised if he stars at Peel.

Ive said this before. I would be amazed if Hurley didn't star for Peel and play for Freo regularly at some point. His improvement last season was massive. He has all the tools athletically. Seriously excited by his prospects.

 

[freo_leo29]

I can categorically say that Ethan Hughes has been training with the midfield group.

Now that Ballard and Jones are gone that has opened up a couple of midfield spots at Peel so it makes sense that Hughes will transition to the midfield, I wonder if Morabito will slide back or if he will step into a midfield role too, has there been any indication of this at training?

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Now that Ballard and Jones are gone that has opened up a couple of midfield spots at Peel so it makes sense that Hughes will transition to the midfield, I wonder if Morabito will slide back or if he will step into a midfield role too, has there been any indication of this at training?

Morra has trained with the backs.

Morra prior to his last injury played off hbf for Peel with some short stints in the midfield.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Hows Sheridan looking over the preseason so far? After his infamous dropped mark against the hawks in the finals people seem to be writing his career off. Has he put some weight on and do you think he will bounce back and lock in a best 22 role on the back flank. Interested for DT Keepers

 

[freo_leo29]

Hows Sheridan looking over the preseason so far? After his infamous dropped mark against the hawks in the finals people seem to be writing his career off. Has he put some weight on and do you think he will bounce back and lock in a best 22 role on the back flank. Interested for DT Keepers

Haven't seen anyone writing his career off at all so not sure where you have heard that?
Sheridan has been one of our best trainers for the past couple of years so I see no reason for this changing, he just isn't reported on as much due to 1st and 2nd year player excitement (and Morabito!)
He has cemented his spot in the 22 and Duffield who was his main competition is retired so I can see him playing every game this year bar injury. He may even push up to a winger or midfield if someone like Brady Grey comes into the side.

 

[Yeti]

Hows Sheridan looking over the preseason so far? After his infamous dropped mark against the hawks in the finals people seem to be writing his career off.

BigFooty people? media? Fremantle supporters?

Or are you just making that up as a reminder that one moment in a game will be remembered negatively by some?

People who have bothered to watch his development will know that his career will not be defined by a single moment.

 

[Balony_pony16]

BigFooty people? media? Fremantle supporters?

Or are you just making that up as a reminder that one moment in a game will be remembered negatively by some?

People who have bothered to watch his development will know that his career will not be defined by a single moment.

A bit of tongue in cheek mate making light of some over reactions I have come across about 1 dropped mark. I rate the kid, or obviously I wouldn't bother asking about his progress

 

[Dockernut]

Hows Sheridan looking over the preseason so far? After his infamous dropped mark against the hawks in the finals people seem to be writing his career off. Has he put some weight on and do you think he will bounce back and lock in a best 22 role on the back flank. Interested for DT Keepers

Shouldn't be in the 22 IMO. Come at me.

 

[Allikat]

I can categorically say that Ethan Hughes has been training with the midfield group. I sit under the fig trees next to the mid group each session.

Yep. Ethan seems to be training as an outside mid from what I saw. He has a good run on him.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Yep. Ethan seems to be training as an outside mid from what I saw. He has a good run on him.

Yep he sure has. He appears to do more observation than the other mids. Both Weller and Blakely look switched on.

Just to add I hope Lachie Neale becomes a stoppage coach. He appears so well drilled and understanding of his role and where he needs to be to relieve the ball and get it out yo the outside runners.

For someone so young he looks a complete natural.

 

[theGav56]

Why bother quoting me if you are going reverse edit it .
In the absence of another KPF, we are needing to make do with what is available hence the drafting of Yaz.
From what I saw of Apeness last week, he is a long way off in his recovery.
So, we are left with continuing with the same players that haven't been able to get the extra goals we want or try something new.
I have said before I have lost confidence in Taberner and apart from robbing Peter to pay Paul by using Alex Pearce as a KPF, we have very little else we can try.
It is not just me stating we do not score enough goals, every bastard is saying it and presumably that is why we tried so hard to trade McCarthy.
Seeing as we failed there and given our lack of quality talls , we have brought in a seriously fast alternative that may get the job done as an interim measure. That seems like an infinitely reasonable and sensible move while we wait for Cam McCarthy.
Ethan Hughes is only another option. We have something in mind for him and I have merely opined it may be a forward role owing to the depth we have in the other areas.
It is an opinion and other training watchers have commented on his impressive size and mobility albeit still not a KPP size.
Ultimately, we can either try something new or do nothing and pray.

BTW, I will be amazed if Sean Hurley ever plays for Freo and very surprised if he stars at Peel.

Love the training reports and comments. But I think it is fanciful to look at a player who has been recruited as a defender and think he is going to be plonked forward based on your rationale. In contrast the club has had Hale putting time and effort into Taberner as a marking forward. How you rate players is interesting but I am comfortable with the assumption that the club is going to be playing the forwards as forwards. And until Hughes starts training as a forward you are just shooting the breeze.