BigFooty Official 2015 Big Footy Phantom Draft (Trial Run)

[Snoop Dog]

Welcome to this year’s Big Footy Phantom Draft trial run. We will kick off at 9am Thursday morning. Any issues usually best to get a hold of Lemmingmaster, Chris25 or myself.

Rules

- All players are available for selection (ie there are no Father Son / Academy selections etc)
- We will do 4 rounds (we may do a 5th if sufficient interest)
- Participants have max of 4 hours to make their selection otherwise next live selection from Knightmare Draft will be used - http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/
- Alternatively you can PM either myself, Lemmingmaster, Chris25 or Knightmare your selection for you if you send us your preferences.
- Please do your write ups with your selections. If not try and get at least a few lines in as to why and do full write up ASAP.

For those commenting on selections please keep the comments constructive. Our Phantom Drafters do watch / involved in junior footy but don’t profess to be experts. Please keep that in mind.

Teams are;

Adelaide - Skippos
Brisbane - Quigley
Carlton - Lemmingmaster
Collingwood - Knightmare
Essendon - Foj1
Fremantle - Chris25
Geelong - Swannies
Gold Coast - Offsider
GWS - Snoop Dog
Hawthorn - Jack Package
Melbourne - Jonenb
North Melbourne - Beowulf
Port Adelaide - Gee Dub
Richmond - Bishop
St Kilda - Rahul
Swans - Thunderstruck
West Coast - Monocle
Western Bulldogs - Wizard17


Order & Selections

1. Brisbane Lions - Josh Schache
2. Gold Coast Suns - Jacob Weitering
3. Carlton - Callum Mills
4. Melbourne - Aaron Francis
5. Essendon - Darcy Parish
6. St Kilda - Jacob Hopper
7. Port Adelaide - Rhys Mathieson
8. North Melbourne - Luke Partington
9. Geelong Cats - Charlie Curnow
10. GWS - Harry McKay
11. Adelaide Crows - Ryan Burton
12. Western Bulldogs - Riley Bonner
13. Richmond - Matthew Kennedy
14. Collingwood - Eric Hipwood
15. Hawthorn - Ben Keays
16. Sydney Swans -Keiran Collins
17. West Coast Eagles - Harley Balic
18. Fremantle - Sam Weideman

19. Brisbane Lions - Nick OKearney
20. Gold Coast Suns - Callum Ah Chee
21. Carlton - Darcy Tucker
22. Melbourne - Tom Cole
23. Essendon - Callum Moore
24. St Kilda - Ben Crocker
25. Port Adelaide - James Parsons
26. North Melbourne - Kieran Lovell
27. Geelong Cats- Josh Dunkley
28. GWS - Sam Skinner
29. Adelaide Crows - Wayne Milera
30. Western Bulldogs - Ryan Clarke
31. Richmond - Jade Gresham
32. Collingwood - Harrison Himmelberg
33. Hawthorn - Matt Allen
34. Sydney Swans - Mitchell Hibberd
35. West Coast Eagles - Greg Clark
36. Fremantle - Brandon White

37. Brisbane Lions - Stephen Tahana
38. Gold Coast Suns - Corey Wagner
39. Carlton - Hisham Kerbatieh
40. Melbourne - Brayden Fiorini
41. Essendon - Dylan Smith
42. St Kilda - Nash Holmes
43. Port Adelaide - Dan Houston
44. North Melbourne - Will Snelling
45. Geelong Cats - Yestin Eades
46. GWS - Bailey Rice
47. Adelaide Crows - Rueben William
48. Western Bulldogs - Nicholas Coughlan
49. Richmond - Mason Redman
50. Collingwood - Jaydn Brind
51. Hawthorn - Gach Nyoun
52. Sydney Swans - Brendan Dew
53. West Coast Eagles - Blake Hardwick
54. Fremantle - Aidyn Johnson

55. Brisbane Lions - Andre Parella
56. Gold Coast Suns - Matthew Nunn
57. Carlton - Matt Perry
58. Melbourne -Nick Dodge
59. Essendon - Mitch Brown
60. St Kilda - Matthew Flynn
61. Port Adelaide - Hugh Haysman
62. North Melbourne - Jack Agostino
63. Geelong Cats - Kade Stewart
64. GWS - Matt Hanson
65. Adelaide Crows - Cam Hewett
66. Western Bulldogs - Mark Kovaciec
67. Richmond - Theo Thompson
68. Collingwood - Kieran Malone
69. Hawthorn - Daniel Capiron
70. Sydney Swans - Josh Schoenfeld
71. West Coast Eagles - Jack Watson
72. Fremantle - Liam Jeffs

73. Brisbane Lions - Brayden Hackett
74. Gold Coast Suns - Cody Filewood
75. Carlton - Mabior Chol
76. Melbourne - Bailey Rogers
77. Essendon - Daniel Rioli
78. St Kilda - David Mennen
79. Port Adelaide - David Cunningham
80. North Melbourne - Oleg Markov
81. Geelong Cats - Nathan Broad
82. GWS - Tom Doedee
83. Adelaide Crows - Tim Sullivan
84. Western Bulldogs - Lachlan Knight
85. Richmond - Jake Sushames
86. Collingwood - Clint Hinchcliff
87. Hawthorn - Maris Olekhans
88. Sydney Swans - Luke Surman
89. West Coast Eagles - Shane McAdam
90. Fremantle - Jock Cornell

Good luck!

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Looking forward to being an interested observer this year rather than dealing with the pressures of being on the clock, haha. Good to see some new names involved.

 

[gillo94]

Welcome to this year’s Big Footy Phantom Draft trial run. We will kick off at 9am Thursday morning. Any issues usually best to get a hold of Lemmingmaster, Chris25 or myself.

Rules

- All players are available for selection (ie there are no Father Son / Academy selections etc)
- We will do 4 rounds (we may do a 5th if sufficient interest)
- Participants have max of 4 hours to make their selection otherwise next live selection from Knightmare Draft will be used - http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/
- Alternatively you can PM either myself, Lemmingmaster, Chris25 or Knightmare your selection for you if you send us your preferences.
- Please do your write ups with your selections. If not try and get at least a few lines in as to why and do full write up ASAP.

For those commenting on selections please keep the comments constructive. Our Phantom Drafters do watch / involved in junior footy but don’t profess to be experts. Please keep that in mind.

Teams are;

Adelaide - Skippos
Brisbane - Quigley
Carlton - Lemmingmaster
Collingwood - Knightmare
Essendon - Foj1
Fremantle - Chris25
Geelong - Swannies
Gold Coast - Offsider
GWS - Snoop Dog
Hawthorn - Jack Package
Melbourne - Jonenb
North Melbourne - Beowulf
Port Adelaide - Gee Dub
Richmond - BIshop
St Kilda - Rahul
Swans - Thunderstruck
West Coast - Monocle
Western Bulldogs - Wizard17


Order & Selections

1. Brisbane Lions - Quigley
2. Gold Coast Suns -
3. Carlton -
4. Melbourne -
5. Essendon -
6. St Kilda -
7. Port Adelaide -
8. North Melbourne -
9. Geelong Cats -
10. GWS -
11. Adelaide Crows -
12. Western Bulldogs -
13. Richmond -
14. Collingwood -
15. Hawthorn -
16. Sydney Swans -
17. West Coast Eagles -
18. Fremantle -
19. Brisbane Lions -
20. Gold Coast Suns -
21. Carlton -
22. Melbourne -
23. Essendon -
24. St Kilda -
25. Port Adelaide -
26. North Melbourne -
27. Geelong Cats -
28. GWS -
29. Adelaide Crows -
30. Western Bulldogs -
31. Richmond -
32. Collingwood -
33. Hawthorn -
34. Sydney Swans -
35. West Coast Eagles -
36. Fremantle -
37. Brisbane Lions -
38. Gold Coast Suns -
39. Carlton -
40. Melbourne -
41. Essendon -
42. St Kilda -
43. Port Adelaide -
44. North Melbourne -
45. Geelong Cats -
46. GWS -
47. Adelaide Crows -
48. Western Bulldogs -
49. Richmond -
50. Collingwood -
51. Hawthorn -
52. Sydney Swans -
53. West Coast Eagles -
54. Fremantle -
55. Brisbane Lions -
56. Gold Coast Suns -
57. Carlton -
58. Melbourne -
59. Essendon -
60. St Kilda -
61. Port Adelaide -
62. North Melbourne -
63. Geelong Cats -
64. GWS -
65. Adelaide Crows -
66. Western Bulldogs -
67. Richmond -
68. Collingwood -
69. Hawthorn -
70. Sydney Swans -
71. West Coast Eagles -
72. Fremantle -
73. Brisbane Lions -
74. Gold Coast Suns -
75. Carlton -
76. Melbourne -
77. Essendon -
78. St Kilda -
79. Port Adelaide -
80. North Melbourne -
81. Geelong Cats -
82. GWS -
83. Adelaide Crows -
84. Western Bulldogs -
85. Richmond -
86. Collingwood -
87. Hawthorn -
88. Sydney Swans -
89. West Coast Eagles -
90. Fremantle -

Good luck!

awesome when do we expect the draft to go live?

 

[BigCat2]

Subscribed.

 

[Snoop Dog]

awesome when do we expect the draft to go live?

9am tomorrow morning but I fully expect Quigley to take advantage of the early thread opening.

 

[Super Hans]

Sub'n.

 

[Monocle]

9am tomorrow morning but I fully expect Quigley to take advantage of the early thread opening.

Snoop...... Quigley will take advantage of the early posting opportunity so that he can start typing his selection up , it will be an essay . I am hoping that he will have seen a bit of the Qld Academy kids and be able to put some relative value on them for the rest of us who haven't seen , or seen very little of them , as quite frankly I have no idea where to place Hipwood for example.

Jokes aside I always look forward to Quigleys mock draft .However I need to take two days annual leave to be able to read the thesis.

Good to see some new posters this year in what will be a very interesting draft it's short on numbers but rich in diversity . I have quite a few players that I like but ranking them on the big board is proving a challenge after the first 20 .

 

[LemmingMaster]

Good luck everyone.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I think Quigley is no longer doing his mock drafts, personal life is getting in the way

 

[getgaff]

Blowtorch is on you Monocle

Looking forward to watching how the draft goes

 

[Quigley]

I will be doing a mock this year. I will be going to rural Italy in September this year and I can see a lot of night times dedicated to drinking wine and doing write ups.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I will be doing a mock this year. I will be going to rural Italy in September this year and I can see a lot of night times dedicated to drinking wine and doing write ups.

Good to see Quigs, we missed last years effort.

 

[mattyc75]

subscibed

 

[Quigley]

Pick 1 - Brisbane

Josh Schache - 199cm KPF

Okay probably a good idea for me to kick things off now rather than tomorrow morning which is looking pretty crazy already. I have been critical of the Lions for not going early to address their glaring weakness at KPF and so it would be hypocritical of me to not take the stand out KPF with this pick. Lets be clear I do not think Schache will be the best player to come out of the draft and if I was going best available I would certainly go with Francis and Weitering ahead of him. Both of those guys I am very confident will end up being elite players at AFL level in their respective positions. Weitering might even end up an elite KPF if he is played there rather than down back.

Schache once he matures I see as a top 10 or so KPF in the competition. He will be a legitimate power forward target who will provide the structure and target up forward which we desperately need. I do however think he is going to take a fair while to get there. I am expecting his development curve to be a lot like Tom Hawkins in that a lot of supporters will be cursing and writing him off early in his career. My biggest issue with him at the moment is that he struggles to get separation in leading situations. Whenever he is leading up the ground the KPD is almost always in his hip pocket and when he is dealing with bigger, stronger and quicker KPDers at AFL level he is going to struggle early whilst he learns the ropes and gets stronger himself. I do think he gets there but it is not going to be without bumps along the way.

At the Champs, Schache jumped into the consciousness of most draft watchers with some great performances. He finished with 24 goals which is a new record and won the Larke medal for the best Div 1 player (usually a midfielders award). Whilst the overall standard was down for Div 1 was down this year I did think there quite a few very decent KPD prospects and the fact that he dominated was a credit to him. I would have liked to see him go against Collins and Weitering but you can only go against the guys thrown up against him.

Schache is a very tall power forward who will be a monster when fully developed. He has a very big frame and he already uses it well to overwhelm and keep the defender behind him. Above his head I would say his hands are good but not elite. With the ball on the ground he is very good for a player of his size and he is both clean and smart with the way he uses his body to collect and get the ball away. His football smarts might be the most impressive aspect of his game. Schache knows what to do and where to go to get the best results for himself and the team. If he is spoiled he keeps the ball in his area well and his second efforts are great. His leading patterns are good and he reads the ball in the air well. He marks out in front of himself nicely which is good seeing as he often does not have a lot of separation.

He is not the best chaser defensively but he does use his laziness in the chase to good effect and if his man gets away from him he will move to dangerous space so that if there is a turnover he is position to take advantage of it. He is a very accurate set shot and from open play he is also a very good finisher for his size. Like a lot of very good forwards he is also an excellent deliverer of the ball into 50 and is both smart in the options he takes and where he puts it.

He has the size to ruck and does ruck a bit at junior level but I have not been impressed with this aspect of his game. If I picked him it would not be with the intention of him playing as a second ruck.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Offsider

 

[Zach Package]

Apologies if my picks roll in a tad slowly tomorrow and friday due to work. Will endeavour to get my picks in during breaks and get writeups in when I get home at night.

 

[potential]

Pick 1 - Brisbane

Josh Schache - 199cm KPF

Okay probably a good idea for me to kick things off now rather than tomorrow morning which is looking pretty crazy already. I have been critical of the Lions for not going early to address their glaring weakness at KPF and so it would be hypocritical of me to not take the stand out KPF with this pick. Lets be clear I do not think Schache will be the best player to come out of the draft and if I was going best available I would certainly go with Francis and Weitering ahead of him. Both of those guys I am very confident will end up being elite players at AFL level in their respective positions. Weitering might even end up an elite KPF if he is played there rather than down back.

Schache once he matures I see as a top 10 or so KPF in the competition. He will be a legitimate power forward target who will provide the structure and target up forward which we desperately need. I do however think he is going to take a fair while to get there. I am expecting his development curve to be a lot like Tom Hawkins in that a lot of supporters will be cursing and writing him off early in his career. My biggest issue with him at the moment is that he struggles to get separation in leading situations. Whenever he is leading up the ground the KPD is almost always in his hip pocket and when he is dealing with bigger, stronger and quicker KPDers at AFL level he is going to struggle early whilst he learns the ropes and gets stronger himself. I do think he gets there but it is not going to be without bumps along the way.

At the Champs, Schache jumped into the consciousness of most draft watchers with some great performances. He finished with 24 goals which is a new record and won the Larke medal for the best Div 1 player (usually a midfielders award). Whilst the overall standard was down for Div 1 was down this year I did think there quite a few very decent KPD prospects and the fact that he dominated was a credit to him. I would have liked to see him go against Collins and Weitering but you can only go against the guys thrown up against him.

Schache is a very tall power forward who will be a monster when fully developed. He has a very big frame and he already uses it well to overwhelm and keep the defender behind him. Above his head I would say his hands are good but not elite. With the ball on the ground he is very good for a player of his size and he is both clean and smart with the way he uses his body to collect and get the ball away. His football smarts might be the most impressive aspect of his game. Schache knows what to do and where to go to get the best results for himself and the team. If he is spoiled he keeps the ball in his area well and his second efforts are great. His leading patterns are good and he reads the ball in the air well. He marks out in front of himself nicely which is good seeing as he often does not have a lot of separation.

He is not the best chaser defensively but he does use his laziness in the chase to good effect and if his man gets away from him he will move to dangerous space so that if there is a turnover he is position to take advantage of it. He is a very accurate set shot and from open play he is also a very good finisher for his size. Like a lot of very good forwards he is also an excellent deliverer of the ball into 50 and is both smart in the options he takes and where he puts it.

He has the size to ruck and does ruck a bit at junior level but I have not been impressed with this aspect of his game. If I picked him it would not be with the intention of him playing as a second ruck.

 

[potential]

Great assessment. I feel Schache will struggle for the first few years until his body develops, he does struggle to get separation from his defender on the lead. In the two Australian Academy games he did not standout, he always had a defender right on him and I don't think he hardly had a contested mark. I would like to see him crash the packs a bit more and make a real presence in the forward line. He is all class for a player of his size, clean below his knees and a magnificent kick, he will take time.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Great assessment. I feel Schache will struggle for the first few years until his body develops, he does struggle to get separation from his defender on the lead. In the two Australian Academy games he did not standout, he always had a defender right on him and I don't think he hardly had a contested mark. I would like to see him crash the packs a bit more and make a real presence in the forward line. He is all class for a player of his size, clean below his knees and a magnificent kick, he will take time.

Like virtually all tall forwards you have to wait a good 3-4 years before allowing them to have an influence.

 

[Yoda_]

Apologies if my picks roll in a tad slowly tomorrow and friday due to work. Will endeavour to get my picks in during breaks and get writeups in when I get home at night.

PM them to the big dog (Snoop Dog)

 

[GreatSouthWest]

Very even draft this year. The 14+ hours mulling over pick 2 is a leading indicator.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Very even draft this year. The 14+ hours mulling over pick 2 is a leading indicator.

Quigley went a bit early. Official kick off at 9am so he has some time and I know a few are backed up and ready to go.

 

[dlanod]

Pick 1 - Brisbane

Josh Schache - 199cm KPF

I know it's just a mock, but that's one riot avoided.

 

[gillo94]

Pick 1 - Brisbane

Josh Schache - 199cm KPF

Okay probably a good idea for me to kick things off now rather than tomorrow morning which is looking pretty crazy already. I have been critical of the Lions for not going early to address their glaring weakness at KPF and so it would be hypocritical of me to not take the stand out KPF with this pick. Lets be clear I do not think Schache will be the best player to come out of the draft and if I was going best available I would certainly go with Francis and Weitering ahead of him. Both of those guys I am very confident will end up being elite players at AFL level in their respective positions. Weitering might even end up an elite KPF if he is played there rather than down back.

Schache once he matures I see as a top 10 or so KPF in the competition. He will be a legitimate power forward target who will provide the structure and target up forward which we desperately need. I do however think he is going to take a fair while to get there. I am expecting his development curve to be a lot like Tom Hawkins in that a lot of supporters will be cursing and writing him off early in his career. My biggest issue with him at the moment is that he struggles to get separation in leading situations. Whenever he is leading up the ground the KPD is almost always in his hip pocket and when he is dealing with bigger, stronger and quicker KPDers at AFL level he is going to struggle early whilst he learns the ropes and gets stronger himself. I do think he gets there but it is not going to be without bumps along the way.

At the Champs, Schache jumped into the consciousness of most draft watchers with some great performances. He finished with 24 goals which is a new record and won the Larke medal for the best Div 1 player (usually a midfielders award). Whilst the overall standard was down for Div 1 was down this year I did think there quite a few very decent KPD prospects and the fact that he dominated was a credit to him. I would have liked to see him go against Collins and Weitering but you can only go against the guys thrown up against him.

Schache is a very tall power forward who will be a monster when fully developed. He has a very big frame and he already uses it well to overwhelm and keep the defender behind him. Above his head I would say his hands are good but not elite. With the ball on the ground he is very good for a player of his size and he is both clean and smart with the way he uses his body to collect and get the ball away. His football smarts might be the most impressive aspect of his game. Schache knows what to do and where to go to get the best results for himself and the team. If he is spoiled he keeps the ball in his area well and his second efforts are great. His leading patterns are good and he reads the ball in the air well. He marks out in front of himself nicely which is good seeing as he often does not have a lot of separation.

He is not the best chaser defensively but he does use his laziness in the chase to good effect and if his man gets away from him he will move to dangerous space so that if there is a turnover he is position to take advantage of it. He is a very accurate set shot and from open play he is also a very good finisher for his size. Like a lot of very good forwards he is also an excellent deliverer of the ball into 50 and is both smart in the options he takes and where he puts it.

He has the size to ruck and does ruck a bit at junior level but I have not been impressed with this aspect of his game. If I picked him it would not be with the intention of him playing as a second ruck.

Offsider has not been seen sinceMonday
Kindly organise a replacement

 

[Knightmare]

Weitering is my next best available at 2 if required.

But hopefully Offsider makes it online over the coming hours to make the pick.