List Mgmt. 2015 DRAFT discussion - Clayton Oliver #4, Sam Weideman #10, Mitch King #42, Liam Hulett #46

[Devastating Boris]

Hope your mate's name isn't Phil

**** no, not that campaigner

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

Apropos of everything that is going on with the Draft, has anyone heard anything about the AFL medical that Weideman was supposed to undertake today? If he has cleared it, it will put another cat in the bag as to our final determination.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Apropos of everything that is going on with the Draft, has anyone heard anything about the AFL medical that Weideman was supposed to undertake today? If he has cleared it, it will put another cat in the bag as to our final determination.

When I had spoken to my mate, GWS had not received his results but he also said that if they had he couldn't discuss it with me yet, if they eliminate him as potential then I'll hit him up. I imagine they certainly have now.

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

Thanks DB, just heard that the results were a bit ordinary. Will try and get the info.

 

[Demon 16]

Weideman 3.21 seconds over 20 metres and 12.4 beep test.

Nothing spectacular, but good enough.

It will all come down to his medical tests you would think.

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

3.21 20m sprint

12.4 beep.

Not very good numbers, JT to make a big decision.

 

[Oscarman]

Weideman looks quick enough on the lead. Has good dukes too when marking. Not sure he will be there when we have our second pick but I guess he is more likely than Parish to still be available. Still keen on Parish and Weideman with Ryan Burton the other option - seems Carlton are quite keen on him with the pick after ours.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Weideman looks quick enough on the lead. Has good dukes too when marking. Not sure he will be there when we have our second pick but I guess he is more likely than Parish to still be available. Still keen on Parish and Weideman with Ryan Burton the other option - seems Carlton are quite keen on him with the pick after ours.

I read somewhere today that Ess were heavy into Burton. Probably just junk, but this draft will have a few twists and turns in it no doubt.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

3.21 20m sprint

12.4 beep.

Not very good numbers, JT to make a big decision.

He's been out all year with stress fractures though.

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

He's been out all year with stress fractures though.

Yeah true. Need to wait on the medical now I suppose. Then decision time. If he passes with flying colours I think it will be him at 3 and then Oliver, assuming the Bumblers take Parish.

 

[Nev9206]

3.21 20m sprint

12.4 beep.

Not very good numbers, JT to make a big decision.

3.21 on 20m sprint isn't bad for a 196cm+ big guy. Plus with a pre season or 2 under his beat that 12.4 will rise.

 

[stabler]

Last year I looked at Brayshaw and Petracca and I thought that nothing would stop the both of them becoming A graders.

This year I look at all the possible players we could draft and all I see is flaws.

 

[TheCount]

Yeah true. Need to wait on the medical now I suppose. Then decision time. If he passes with flying colours I think it will be him at 3 and then Oliver, assuming the Bumblers take Parish.

The medical is the most important bit. Speed and endurance can be worked on and improved reasonably quickly under the proper guidance. As someone who has sustained a serious and horrendously mismanaged ankle injury, his agility will improve provided he's rehabbed it right, and that will likely be what they were looking at most closely.

 

[Djcjdees]

That Weideman highlights package made me not want him. Clearly has a horrible set shot because they showed him taking all this great marks but then only showed a couple of shots he had from 20m out directly in front...

Remember Rule #1 when drafting/trading at MFC - players that can kick.

 

[Jeremy Allen]

That Weideman highlights package made me not want him. Clearly has a horrible set shot because they showed him taking all this great marks but then only showed a couple of shots he had from 20m out directly in front...

Remember Rule #1 when drafting/trading at MFC - players that can kick.

His kicking is average but his two downfalls his endurance and his kicking are two things that can be fixed in an AFL environment. I think Weideman at 3 is too much of reach but i would be all for taking him at 7. Parish at 3 is what I want because he doesn't really have a weakness, and there's still a strong chance that we'll get one of curnow or weideman at 7 whereas there's no chance with Parish

 

[TheCount]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dra...uct-callum-mills/story-fnyc10cj-1227613753378

We've already assumed as much ... but we're apparently bidding on Mills, tho obviously he's zero chance of getting to us.

Article also says from there that we're a chance of taking Parish or Weideman at (what is now) 4.

I'm hoping that we're creating a build up around Weideman so Essendon jump at him, and leave Curnow for us.

 

[harry000]

Thoughts on Harry McKay? Say we took Parish at 3.. Essendon take Curnow and Oliver, GC took Milera and we had to choose between Weideman and Mckay?

 

[Jeremy Allen]

Thoughts on Harry McKay? Say we took Parish at 3.. Essendon take Curnow and Oliver, GC took Milera and we had to choose between Weideman and Mckay?

If we're considering taking Weideman at 3 I think we would almost certainly take him over Mckay. If that order does happen Francis would still be available aswell

 

[TheCount]

Thoughts on Harry McKay? Say we took Parish at 3.. Essendon take Curnow and Oliver, GC took Milera and we had to choose between Weideman and Mckay?

I'd prefer Weideman ... the comments about McKay's inconsistency concern me greatly ... literally the last thing we need.

 

[harry000]

If we're considering taking Weideman at 3 I think we would almost certainly take him over Mckay. If that order does happen Francis would still be available aswell

I think Weideman at 3 sounds like too much of a risk.

 

[RedRockets]

A few weeks ago everyone was wanting to take Francis at 3. Now barley anyone considers him at 7. Something changed between now and then?

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[Jeremy Allen]

I think Weideman at 3 sounds like too much of a risk.

I agree pick 3 should be used on Parish, but at 7 I think Weideman will be a great pick

 

[DeesFan]

3.21 on 20m sprint isn't bad for a 196cm+ big guy. Plus with a pre season or 2 under his beat that 12.4 will rise.

Its only good if the defender playing on him runs 3.5 on 20m and has a worse beep time

 

[lose]

I actually really liked the look of that highlights package of Weideman.. Used it well on both sides, really good body position and hands in marking contest and looks to have a very simple and uncomplicated set shot action.. also for a bloke that big is moving around very well..

In contrast, watching that highlights video of Oliver, I really don't see where the excitement is coming from.. yes he's a big bodied mid but for an elite mid rekon his kicking looks very average, every one of them was just kicked up with no penetration and not once to advantage of the player he's kicking it too.. maybe it's just me

 

[Praetorian]

I actually really liked the look of that highlights package of Weideman.. Used it well on both sides, really good body position and hands in marking contest and looks to have a very simple and uncomplicated set shot action.. also for a bloke that big is moving around very well..

In contrast, watching that highlights video of Oliver, I really don't see where the excitement is coming from.. yes he's a big bodied mid but for an elite mid rekon his kicking looks very average, every one of them was just kicked up with no penetration and not once to advantage of the player he's kicking it too.. maybe it's just me

Nah I'm with you, didn't see anything from his highlights that indicated he has good foot skills
Surely highlights could include some lace out passes