Position 2015 SuperCoach midfielders

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

I think 105 would be his max if everything worked for him. Yeah love the guy and was more considering having Montagna over him.
Personally I'm going the WC Selwood over him as will get more cash an can be considered as a stepping stone player or maybe M8 keeper.
But if I had too choose between swallow and Stevens It'd prob depend on strategy, eg. I'd pick Stevens for a stepping stone player as I see him making more cash than swallow.
But I like swallow as he can easily be an M8 keeper averaging 105-110 (maybe)
So it depends on what your after I guess

Don't think Swallow should be a keeper at years end.

 

[karaoke]

Don't think Swallow should be a keeper at years end.

Disagree,

If he cost 600k and he ave 105-110, you would be slightly disappointed.

But he costs 500k and that's fairly good value for an M8, IMO.

 

[scaryness]

So whats the general consensus on Gazza?

He is an obvious pick when healthy, but I am turned off by the fact that he would have to average around 140 to not drop in price, and the fact that he didn't even want to fly to Melbourne for the captain's meetings to make sure he was healthy.

Sounds to me like he could be managed or even red vest material if they get into big leads.

 

[SnappyHappy]

So whats the general consensus on Gazza?

He is an obvious pick when healthy, but I am turned off by the fact that he would have to average around 140 to not drop in price, and the fact that he didn't even want to fly to Melbourne for the captain's meetings to make sure he was healthy.

Sounds to me like he could be managed or even red vest material if they get into big leads.

I'm going to start either Ablett or Rockliff.

If I start Rockliff for example, I'll have enough cash in bank to sideways Rocky to Ablett if Rocky doesn't score well early and if Ablett dominates.

Conversely I can stick with Rocky if he starts pumping out huge scores from R1, and if Ablett scores low or gets subbed I can wait for him to bottom out.

If Rocky and Ablett both struggle early, I can sideways Rocky to a gun premo to free up cash to upgrade someone to Ablett when he bottoms out.

Will need to sacrifice a few trades but I think this is the best strategy to have all bases covered.

 

[pulpdriver]

So whats the general consensus on Gazza?

He is an obvious pick when healthy, but I am turned off by the fact that he would have to average around 140 to not drop in price, and the fact that he didn't even want to fly to Melbourne for the captain's meetings to make sure he was healthy.

Sounds to me like he could be managed or even red vest material if they get into big leads.

I've got him in. I'm expecting little difference in his output regardless of injury. He'll have to really stink it up to consider sideways but I don't think that will happen and even so, he's bound to go bang a few rounds in minimum. At which point everyone who doesn't have him has to consider how the **** they get him in. Last year was my first year without Ablett and I really don't want to go through plotting ways to get him in every week again.

 

[KardiniaPark]

So whats the general consensus on Gazza?

He is an obvious pick when healthy, but I am turned off by the fact that he would have to average around 140 to not drop in price, and the fact that he didn't even want to fly to Melbourne for the captain's meetings to make sure he was healthy.

Sounds to me like he could be managed or even red vest material if they get into big leads.

Head - hasn't played a competitive game for a long time, slow start? Does he play R1? Is he a late out while you're away at Easter?

Heart- It's gaz, pick him.

 

[Kadog]

Gaj has never left my team. I have faith in the bald master.

 

[Deliverance]

I'm going to start either Ablett or Rockliff.

If I start Rockliff for example, I'll have enough cash in bank to sideways Rocky to Ablett if Rocky doesn't score well early and if Ablett dominates.

Conversely I can stick with Rocky if he starts pumping out huge scores from R1, and if Ablett scores low or gets subbed I can wait for him to bottom out.

If Rocky and Ablett both struggle early, I can sideways Rocky to a gun premo to free up cash to upgrade someone to Ablett when he bottoms out.

Will need to sacrifice a few trades but I think this is the best strategy to have all bases covered.

I've never heard anyone go in to a season with a plan to trade out the two most expensive players in the game.

 

[SnappyHappy]

I've never heard anyone go in to a season with a plan to trade out the two most expensive players in the game.

Haha no that's not the plan, think you may have misread! I would only start with Rocky as insurance incase I desperately needed Ablett. Do you have a better non-Ablett starting plan if he comes out and scores 140 in R1?

 

[jjsmitty8]

Am I crazy for not picking Jed Anderson?

I don't have him at the moment, but I'm looking for ways to get him. Am I just being sucked in? It's a pretty formidable Hawthorn team for an inexperienced kid to just walk on in and not be a sub candidate, either starting or finishing as sub.

 

[Kadog]

Am I crazy for not picking Jed Anderson?

I don't have him at the moment, but I'm looking for ways to get him. Am I just being sucked in? It's a pretty formidable Hawthorn team for an inexperienced kid to just walk on in and not be a sub candidate, either starting or finishing as sub.

I'm contemplating the same thing, especially now that Vandenberg is on the back burner. Another 14k hmmm. ****ing vests. Worst thing the afl has done. Absolutely useless

 

[King_Steele]

Am I crazy for not picking Jed Anderson?

I don't have him at the moment, but I'm looking for ways to get him. Am I just being sucked in? It's a pretty formidable Hawthorn team for an inexperienced kid to just walk on in and not be a sub candidate, either starting or finishing as sub.

I'm contemplating the same thing, especially now that Vandenberg is on the back burner. Another 14k hmmm. ******* vests. Worst thing the afl has done. Absolutely useless

I've made the move of Vandenburg to Anderson.

Have a feeling his highly rated, they did get him through that pre draft thing with GWS a few years ago, playing in all nab games is also a good sign

 

[Kadog]

Jed's a gun. Will be vested early but eventually bled into full games. Hawks say he's in line for 15-18 games.

Another I'm contemplating is Cocky. Cats love him but again im wary of the early vest.

 

[GT619]

I'm going to start either Ablett or Rockliff.

If I start Rockliff for example, I'll have enough cash in bank to sideways Rocky to Ablett if Rocky doesn't score well early and if Ablett dominates.

Conversely I can stick with Rocky if he starts pumping out huge scores from R1, and if Ablett scores low or gets subbed I can wait for him to bottom out.

If Rocky and Ablett both struggle early, I can sideways Rocky to a gun premo to free up cash to upgrade someone to Ablett when he bottoms out.

Will need to sacrifice a few trades but I think this is the best strategy to have all bases covered.

Why not have both take rocky now and upgrade for Ablett come the bye rounds if somehow he drops down in price

 

[kenneje]

Am I crazy for not picking Jed Anderson?

I don't have him at the moment, but I'm looking for ways to get him. Am I just being sucked in? It's a pretty formidable Hawthorn team for an inexperienced kid to just walk on in and not be a sub candidate, either starting or finishing as sub.

Clarkson absolutely loves Jed, and we're in operation 'continue rejuvenating the midfield', so you can lock him in 15+ games.

He might be sub occasionally, but I can't see it happening too often to be honest. Internally, he's rated as high as Hill and Langford, that I'm sure about.

 

[Deliverance]

Haha no that's not the plan, think you may have misread! I would only start with Rocky as insurance incase I desperately needed Ablett. Do you have a better non-Ablett starting plan if he comes out and scores 140 in R1?

For me, he's too expensive considering the injury he sustained, plus no preseason at all concerns me. I'm starting without him and will only pick him up midseason if he's performing. I'm starting 3 high priced mid rookies so cash shouldn't be a problem. I'll wear it if he averages above 130 for the first 10 weeks.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

For Jed's price...i will cop a few vests. Thankfully he plays better in the big time than the praccy matches.

Will average 80+

I am running with Mitchell and Jack Steven. Both cut price, both will lead their teams in SC.

 

[jjsmitty8]

I hope you're all right. My biggest mistake last year was trading Will Langford out for Tom Clurey minutes before the first lockout last year.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

I hope you're all right. My biggest mistake last year was trading Will Langford out for Tom Clurey minutes before the first lockout last year.

Always go the mids before the KPP

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

For Jed's price...i will cop a few vests. Thankfully he plays better in the big time than the praccy matches.

Will average 80+

I am running with Mitchell and Jack Steven. Both cut price, both will lead their teams in SC.

Can't see Mitchell outscoring J.Lewis.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Can't see Mitchell outscoring J.Lewis.

I can. Whether he does though...

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

I can. Whether he does though...

Maybe, they'll be close. Who is more susceptible to injuries and suspension? Maybe Mitchell? Although the extra 80K is always handy

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Maybe, they'll be close. Who is more susceptible to injuries and suspension? Maybe Mitchell? Although the extra 80K is always handy

Mitchell:

2006 HW 22
2007 HW 21
2008 HW 21
2009 HW 22
2010 HW 18
2011 HW 20
2012 HW 21
2013 HW 21
2014 HW 13

Lewis:

2006 HW 20
2007 HW 22
2008 HW 17
2009 HW 19
2010 HW 22
2011 HW 19
2012 HW 20
2013 HW 21
2014 HW 21

Not bad over the run. Played pre season, looks dominant and signed another year.

2014 was a bad hammy, but I back him to play another 21 with a rest in there later on.

 

[MightyMark]

Mitchell:

2006 HW 22
2007 HW 21
2008 HW 21
2009 HW 22
2010 HW 18
2011 HW 20
2012 HW 21
2013 HW 21
2014 HW 13

Lewis:

2006 HW 20
2007 HW 22
2008 HW 17
2009 HW 19
2010 HW 22
2011 HW 19
2012 HW 20
2013 HW 21
2014 HW 21

Not bad over the run. Played pre season, looks dominant and signed another year.

2014 was a bad hammy, but I back him to play another 21 with a rest in there later on.

Hammy's dont come back stronger, if he pulled it last year there is every chance it could happen again

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Hammy's dont come back stronger, if he pulled it last year there is every chance it could happen again

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-03-26/mitchell-to-play-on-in-2016

I'm sure you will be relieved to see that like 99% of AFL players, Mitchell "... hasn’t missed a beat so far this pre-season".