List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Free agency and draft rumours

[MC_9]

I am not in the trade Hartung boat. Here is a player who in just his second year looks like he is capable of tearing a game apart, yet we have people who want to trade him. The same posters would probably cry, Joe Kennedy style, when he becomes one of the elite mids in the competition.

Don't trade him, sign him, and see how more he improves after another preseason.

I am also against trading him, however if it meant we get a player like O'Meara, then you pull the trigger. We already have 2 very good younger players that play the same role well.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Just curious - when players are traded do you inherit their contract terms or are they renegotiated? For example when we took on BB were we obligated to pay him whatever StK were paying him?

 

[Boo71]

Hartung is a 10yr player, no way, unless there are unknown issues.

 

[MC_9]

Just curious - when players are traded do you inherit their contract terms or are they renegotiated? For example when we took on BB were we obligated to pay him whatever StK were paying him?

Generally, that is correct.

However there are a couple of circumstances where it can change.

Firstly, if the club that the player has been traded from agrees to pay part of his salary. Usually only happens when the club is very keen to move that player on. Example, I believe WB agreed to pay for part of Griffin's salary at GWS.

Secondly, if the new club and player agree to renegotiate the contract. Both parties have to agree, as this can happen at any stage with any player. Example, when Lake came to Hawthorn he renegotiated his contract to reduce the yearly amount for an extra year on his contract.

 

[Furn2]

Just curious - when players are traded do you inherit their contract terms or are they renegotiated? For example when we took on BB were we obligated to pay him whatever StK were paying him?

You can renegotiate but only of the player agrees, players will pretty much never take less money but they might if you give them more years.

For example when we got Lake he had one year left at the dogs on big money apparently around 650k and he signed with us for two years on less around 850k over two years.

 

[halfback dasher]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

 

[onthemoney]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

Sad. Anxious about whether it will pay off or not.

 

[threesixpio]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

I'd be ok. Love Bruest but we need young mids. Surprised Clarko hasn't transitioned Bruest to midfield

 

[Great 2008]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

Seriously conflicted. Happy/Sad. Angry/Hopeful. Stunned/Stunned.

 

[Brishawk]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

I would take that trade. I love Breust but trading one a grade player for two a grade players is a no brainier. It will be a bit weird to watch him play for GWS one week and GC the week after though

 

[Brishawk]

I'd be ok. Love Bruest but we need young mids. Surprised Clarko hasn't transitioned Bruest to midfield

Me too. He gets the odd run in there but I looked at him as part of the way we would transition away from Burgoyne, Hodge and Mitchell in the middle. Maybe he takes too big a beating in their? Seems to have played sore a few times this year.

 

[MC_9]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

You would do it, but wouldn't be happy about it. I would also look at all other avenues first. I would rather trade any other young player on the list before Bruest and Gunston.

 

[cryptor]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

Only if Breust was up for being traded and not pushed out as if it was the latter I don't like what it might do for our culture.

Is he willing you think? I would believe it if Suckling were to leave via FA.

 

[cryptor]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-26/your-clubs-trade-targets

Jaeger O'Meara for 2015 & 2016 1st Rd picks + Whitecross? Hell yes i'd take that. Not sure GCS would.

You'd have to throw in the barrell we used to bend them over with too.

 

[halfback dasher]

My point is Bruest was hunted last year for two top ten picks , recon 18 and Bruest for Treloar and 8 and an exchange of 2nd rdrs ( 26 and 36 ) for eg. would work for both party's . Then on trade 8 for Bennell to GC .

 

[HawksILove]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

It's a very big call, but I would do it

 

[Boundary Writer]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

I honestly rate Breust above Treloer with Bennell being high risk/high reward.
Can we swap it to Dangerfield and Bennell for Breust and 2016 + 2017 1st round picks. That I'd take.

Very much unlike you to get involved in trade hypotheticals anyway Dash. You feeling ok?

 

[halfback dasher]

I honestly rate Breust above Treloer with Bennell being high risk/high reward.
Can we swap it to Dangerfield and Bennell for Breust and 2016 + 2017 1st round picks. That I'd take.

Very much unlike you to get involved in trade hypotheticals anyway Dash. You feeling ok?

It was a discussion I heard and wondered what others thought. .

 

[Hawthorn23]

All I know so far from the rumours is that we will definitely end up getting someone decent it, I'm confident of that.

 

[play2win]

breust is a unique player, would have to be exceptional circumstances such as the outcome you mentioned to even consider trading him.

 

[Boo71]

How would people feel if we lost Bruest and gained Treloer and Bennell ??

Which club is Bruest being traded to ?

If the closer to home thing comes up it makes no sense because where Bruest is from is just as hard to get to from Shitney as from Melb really.

Bruest isn't 25 yet.

No one else in our side ( or on our list? ) offers what Bruest does.

And if the Snorter got done our supporters would hang Wright, Clarko, and everybody else at the club, he's damaged goods* now.

You only do this if Bruest wants out, and if he wants out I want to know the real reason, not a public relations exercise, or crap about going "home".

Good bit of bait for something to talk about though. What else you got ?

 

[Steven Tyler]

Breust, Cyril, Gunston, Rough, Shiels, Langford, Lewis all untouchable in my eyes

 

[cryptor]

It was a discussion I heard and wondered what others thought. .

Considering it'd be one best 22 player out for 2 in (draft picks being of abstract value that could take years - if ever - to come on)... And particulary because it takes away from an area we have an abundant supply of (small-mid size forward) for one we lack (young, quick, classy ball winners)... You'd have to say it's a good trade. It's just hard to see a favourite player in different colours.

 

[Boundary Writer]

It was a discussion I heard and wondered what others thought. .

Did you tell them thanks but no thanks or.....???

 

[Gaston]

breust is a unique player, would have to be exceptional circumstances such as the outcome you mentioned to even consider trading him.

50 goals a year right out the window - irreplaceable.

Watch this weekends footy and ask yourself how many small forwards crumb the ball and kick a banana goal on a continual & consistent basis like Breust, not many, if any.

List management would have to have a very firm plan if they toyed with that idea.