List Mgmt. 2016 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[Giant Strides]

Except we only have one future pick left (traded via the Bulldogs and Swans), as we traded away the Collingwood, Geelong and I can't remember the third off the top of my head?

Unless the allocation was at the start of the trade period, and applicable to the club and not the actual picks? Weird but it could work.

I would think it reasonable that the extra picks go to the team that got the future selections in the first place - the picks themselves aren't magic beans that should hold anything special for someone to pick them up. I would have expected one of 3 cases:

• no extra picks, too bad the rules changed but you know that at the start of the trade period so manage around it (bit unfair)
• extra picks if the original club retained the original future pick (i.e. in our case, hold onto pick #7 & #16 (probably fairest middle ground)
• same number of extra picks as future picks gained from 2015 draft irrespective of if you trade them away (not unreasonable)

I just can't see how AFL got to 10 picks. There's obviously some curveball factor that they've applied - which is always worrying that they can come up with an illogical outcome!

P.S. The third pick of GWS' 2015 future picks was #35, the Adelaide second rounder for Curtley Hampton.

 

[Giant Strides]

Quayle has now written that Sydney is now a chance to bid on him with pick 9 which seems crazy to me.

I don't see why Sydney would pick him at #10. He's not been rated anywhere near that high in anyone's ratings (highest I've seen is about #24), and I don't think he fits the Swans' biggest need. I wouldn't think GWS would match him that high, so Sydney would end up spending #10 far too high IMO. The only reason why GWS might think of matching for him if they saw him as a suitable counterattacking defender instead of McGrath if Essendon take McGrath, but Cumming's traits are quite different & I still highly doubt we'd match that high. Sure I can see Sydney bidding for Bowes if he's not yet been taken by pick #10 - keeping GCS honest with a kid who's been rated top 10 all year - but I'd expect Sydney to take a midfielder: Brodie if he's still available, or perhaps Florent.

Still, if he does go first round, it could be a record number of NSW kids in the first round! (But that's 'cos the Riverina's always produced this number of draftees.)

 

[Determinant]

I don't see why Sydney would pick him at #10. He's not been rated anywhere near that high in anyone's ratings (highest I've seen is about #24), and I don't think he fits the Swans' biggest need. I wouldn't think GWS would match him that high, so Sydney would end up spending #10 far too high IMO. The only reason why GWS might think of matching for him if they saw him as a suitable counterattacking defender instead of McGrath if Essendon take McGrath, but Cumming's traits are quite different & I still highly doubt we'd match that high. Sure I can see Sydney bidding for Bowes if he's not yet been taken by pick #10 - keeping GCS honest with a kid who's been rated top 10 all year - but I'd expect Sydney to take a midfielder: Brodie if he's still available, or perhaps Florent.

Still, if he does go first round, it could be a record number of NSW kids in the first round! (But that's 'cos the Riverina's always produced this number of draftees.)

I read a stat somewhere, don't recall where, in the last 30 years, 3 players from within our zone had gone in the first round, vs last year when 3 did..
Yeah, the academies are a just a free leg up for sure

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Perryman, Mutch & McCreadie

They're the three I want.

Anyone else is a bonus.

 

[jakefooty23]

Hello, sorry if i'm not welcome here, but it seems to me that in most phantom drafts iv'e seen the past couple days, they have had Mcgrath at 1 and Taranto at 2 to you guys. Is there something about Taranto that would fit your system more or is it is more based on what you need? Because in my opinion Mcluggage is better then Taranto and will be the better player in the future.

 

[Colonial]

Hello, sorry if i'm not welcome here, but it seems to me that in most phantom drafts iv'e seen the past couple days, they have had Mcgrath at 1 and Taranto at 2 to you guys. Is there something about Taranto that would fit your system more or is it is more based on what you need? Because in my opinion Mcluggage is better then Taranto and will be the better player in the future.

Theres been talk Mcluggage is a flight risk.

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[captainMyCaptain]

Hello, sorry if i'm not welcome here, but it seems to me that in most phantom drafts iv'e seen the past couple days, they have had Mcgrath at 1 and Taranto at 2 to you guys. Is there something about Taranto that would fit your system more or is it is more based on what you need? Because in my opinion Mcluggage is better then Taranto and will be the better player in the future.

Quayle properly answers this best

 

[dlanod]

Theres been talk Mcluggage is a flight risk.

I think that's just rumours. With my alternate hat on, there's absolutely no way the Lions will go near a player who has a sniff of flight risk after being so severely burned and by all accounts McCluggage is Brisbane-bound.

 

[Mullayo]

Essendon has 3 players to pick from. 2 of them McGrath and Setterfield will stuff us up.
Please pick McCarryon.
If they don't this could start a dangerous precedent of stuffing up other team's picks.

 

[Colonial]

Essendon has 3 players to pick from. 2 of them McGrath and Setterfield will stuff us up.
Please pick McCarryon.
If they don't this could start a dangerous precedent of stuffing up other team's picks.

Very interesting to see where they with that number 1

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[Fozdog]

Very interesting to see where they with that number 1

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I think Dodoro let the cat out of the bag when asked on Melb radio this morning whether they take the best available or the best that fits needs. He said "we think he (McGrath) is the best player"

 

[Gigantor]

I think Dodoro let the cat out of the bag when asked on Melb radio this morning whether they take the best available or the best that fits needs. He said "we think he (McGrath) is the best player"

But that didn't answer the original question.

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

But that didn't answer the original question.

He then went on to say that the player the club will pick, they believe is the best player in the draft.

Of course this is Dodo and could well and truly be trying to create tension and uncertainty.

 

[Giant Pete]

Perryman, Mutch & McCreadie

They're the three I want.

Anyone else is a bonus.

Setterfield, Perryman, Macreadie and Sproule for mine

 

[dlanod]

I would think it reasonable that the extra picks go to the team that got the future selections in the first place - the picks themselves aren't magic beans that should hold anything special for someone to pick them up. I would have expected one of 3 cases:

• no extra picks, too bad the rules changed but you know that at the start of the trade period so manage around it (bit unfair)
• extra picks if the original club retained the original future pick (i.e. in our case, hold onto pick #7 & #16 (probably fairest middle ground)
• same number of extra picks as future picks gained from 2015 draft irrespective of if you trade them away (not unreasonable)

I just can't see how AFL got to 10 picks. There's obviously some curveball factor that they've applied - which is always worrying that they can come up with an illogical outcome!

P.S. The third pick of GWS' 2015 future picks was #35, the Adelaide second rounder for Curtley Hampton.

Did have a bit of a light bulb moment - the clubs probably only got assigned the number of picks that took them up to the zero point picks.

GWS had three future picks but only have two extra live picks. If they had a third it would be worth zero points.

Brisbane had two future picks but don't have any extra live picks. If they had those picks, they would both be worth zero points.

Doesn't explain Gold Coast though.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Listening to Wayne Campbell just then on afl.com sounds like were prepared to match a first round bid for Cumming's

 

[coniglio_number1]

Predictions for the 9?

Setterfield - matched outside of pick 1
Perryman - matched
Macreadie - matched
Cumming - matched
Sproule - matched
Fisher - unmatched
Tiziani - unmatched
Mutch - unmatched
Garthwaite - unmatched

 

[dlanod]

Plenty of orange caps here. Nice turnout by the GWS fans.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Welcome aboard Tim

 

[Gigantor]

Dons took McGrath, we got Taranto.

 

[Bogan Juniors]

I suppose we trade up to get Mcgrath and missed out. Mccluggage didnt look overly impressed going to brisbane. But I suppose Tarranto at 2 does add value to our latter picks when we have to match bids

 

[Gigantor]

Carl bid 5 on Setterfield, bargain for us

 

[Bogan Juniors]

Carlton being assholes

 

[Scully2Folau]

We match Carlton'a bid at 5 for Setterfield.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Welcome Will