2016 trade hypotheticals

[LukeParkerno1]

Nahh its done deal caddy will be a tiger.

That is fine.

No need to involve Sydney in it though.

If Nankervis wants to be traded we will deal directly. We are taking it without lube in every deal otherwise!

 

[HEYTRUEROO]

Rich:
OUT: Vickery Compo (26), Deledio
IN: Nankervis, Caddy

Geel:
OUT: Caddy, pick 36.
In: Deledio, Toohey

Carl:
OUT: Toohey
IN: pick 26

SYD:
OUT: Nankervis
IN: pick 36

Fairly sure that as Geelong traded out their 1st pick last year, they now have to use their picks and can not trade pick 36.

 

[Scotty_222]

Rich:
OUT: Vickery Compo (26), Deledio
IN: Nankervis, Caddy

Geel:
OUT: Caddy, pick 36.
In: Deledio, Toohey

Carl:
OUT: Toohey
IN: pick 26

SYD:
OUT: Nankervis
IN: pick 36

Not bad..

 

[HeHateMe]

Fairly sure that as Geelong traded out their 1st pick last year, they now have to use their picks and can not trade pick 36.

From my understanding it is they can't trade their future picks.
There 2nd this year is game on, would love to see a reference towards what you are saying.

 

[HEYTRUEROO]

From my understanding it is they can't trade their future picks.
There 2nd this year is game on, would love to see a reference towards what you are saying.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

Specifically:

- If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

Like everything the AFL put forward, very vague and open to interpretation. What do you guys think?

 

[HeHateMe]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

Specifically:

- If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

Like everything the AFL put forward, very vague and open to interpretation. What do you guys think?

I think thats saying, last year when they traded there future 1st they then were not allowed to trade, 2nd or lower.
this year because they have not used 2 first round picks in 4 years (including this year) they are not allowed to trade future picks.

but they are allowed to trade there current picks, that just so happen to be those future picks from last year.

owww my brain hurts.

 

[HEYTRUEROO]

I think thats saying, last year when they traded there future 1st they then were not allowed to trade, 2nd or lower.
this year because they have not used 2 first round picks in 4 years (including this year) they are not allowed to trade future picks.

but they are allowed to trade there current picks, that just so happen to be those future picks from last year.

owww my brain hurts.

Ha nice. Yeah I couldn't decide if it meant that or if it meant that they now could not trade any picks from that draft at all as they had previously traded their 1st round pick last year.

I also thought I heard Stephen Wells on SEN this morning say that they can't trade this years picks (could be mistaken though).

 

[citizen-erased]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

Specifically:

- If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

Like everything the AFL put forward, very vague and open to interpretation. What do you guys think?

Think this means if a club trades its 2017 1st, no more 2017 picks can be traded. Flip side, you can trade everything from 2017 if you keep your first.
Seems weird. Didn't Geelong trade their 2017 1st and 2nd.

 

[HeHateMe]

Ha nice. Yeah I couldn't decide if it meant that or if it meant that they now could not trade any picks from that draft at all as they had previously traded their 1st round pick last year.

I also thought I heard Stephen Wells on SEN this morning say that they can't trade this years picks (could be mistaken though).

You could be right, i was sure but now i dont know.

 

[HEYTRUEROO]

Think this means if a club trades its 2017 1st, no more 2017 picks can be traded. Flip side, you can trade everything from 2017 if you keep your first.
Seems weird. Didn't Geelong trade their 2017 1st and 2nd.

Yeah but;
- No more 2017 picks can be traded in 2016?
or
- No more 2017 picks can be traded ever?

I'd think that the 2nd rounder they traded must have been on-traded from another team?

 

[hypertaze]

This will never happen. Too many teams, too many players. Just a bit of fun. I won't go into why each team does the trade since it's already too long.

GCS: 8, 23 25, 29, JOM, Prestia, Sam Day for 3, 5, 10, 36, 38, 39, Barlow, Hrovat, K Stevens, Horlin-Smith, Jarryd Lyons

CAR: 5, 24, Zach Tuohy, Gibbs for 8, 15, Sam Day, Marchbank, Pickett, Gregson

GEE: Kersten, Motlop, Horlin-Smith, Gregson, Caddy, 36 for Zach Tuohy, Deledio, 18

HAW: Hill, 14, 34, Litherland, TOB, 52 for JOM, Clurey, 44

FRE: 3, Barlow, Sutcliffe, 39, Mayne Compo Pick (MCP) for 13, Hill, Motlop, Kersten, Hamling, Litherland, McCarthy

RIC: Deledio, 6, 44 for Prestia, Sutcliffe, Caddy, 24

GWS: Marchbank, Pickett, McCarthy, 15, 16 for 6, 23, 29, 52

WBD: Hamling, Hrovat, Koby Stevens, 18, 38 for 14, 16

STK: 10 for Steele, MCP

ADE: 13, Jarryd Lyons for Gibbs, 34

POR: Clurey for TOB, 25

 

[Mitchell54]

Depends how many list spots you have open.

You don't have to use all your picks though. So you can't go into the draft with Pick 104 if you don't have a list spot even though you're not going to use that pick?

 

[HeHateMe]

This will never happen. Too many teams, too many players. Just a bit of fun. I won't go into why each team does the trade since it's already too long.

GCS: 8, 23 25, 29, JOM, Prestia, Sam Day for 3, 5, 10, 36, 38, 39, Barlow, Hrovat, K Stevens, Horlin-Smith, Jarryd Lyons

CAR: 5, 24, Zach Tuohy, Gibbs for 8, 15, Sam Day, Marchbank, Pickett, Gregson

GEE: Kersten, Motlop, Horlin-Smith, Gregson, Caddy, 36 for Zach Tuohy, Deledio, 18

HAW: Hill, 14, 34, Litherland, TOB, 52 for JOM, Clurey, 44

FRE: 3, Barlow, Sutcliffe, 39, Mayne Compo Pick (MCP) for 13, Hill, Motlop, Kersten, Hamling, Litherland, McCarthy

RIC: Deledio, 6, 44 for Prestia, Sutcliffe, Caddy, 24

GWS: Marchbank, Pickett, McCarthy, 15, 16 for 6, 23, 29, 52

WBD: Hamling, Hrovat, Koby Stevens, 18, 38 for 14, 16

STK: 10 for Steele, MCP

ADE: 13, Jarryd Lyons for Gibbs, 34

POR: Clurey for TOB, 25

alot of wasted energy McCarthy is a docker for pick 3

 

[hypertaze]

alot of wasted energy McCarthy is a docker for pick 3

Yup, just saw that.

 

[Mitchell54]

This will never happen. Too many teams, too many players. Just a bit of fun. I won't go into why each team does the trade since it's already too long.

GCS: 8, 23 25, 29, JOM, Prestia, Sam Day for 3, 5, 10, 36, 38, 39, Barlow, Hrovat, K Stevens, Horlin-Smith, Jarryd Lyons

CAR: 5, 24, Zach Tuohy, Gibbs for 8, 15, Sam Day, Marchbank, Pickett, Gregson

GEE: Kersten, Motlop, Horlin-Smith, Gregson, Caddy, 36 for Zach Tuohy, Deledio, 18

HAW: Hill, 14, 34, Litherland, TOB, 52 for JOM, Clurey, 44

FRE: 3, Barlow, Sutcliffe, 39, Mayne Compo Pick (MCP) for 13, Hill, Motlop, Kersten, Hamling, Litherland, McCarthy

RIC: Deledio, 6, 44 for Prestia, Sutcliffe, Caddy, 24

GWS: Marchbank, Pickett, McCarthy, 15, 16 for 6, 23, 29, 52

WBD: Hamling, Hrovat, Koby Stevens, 18, 38 for 14, 16

STK: 10 for Steele, MCP

ADE: 13, Jarryd Lyons for Gibbs, 34

POR: Clurey for TOB, 25

I know it's just a bit of fun but just gonna just have my say.
I don't think Hawks should use up any trade value that's not necessary. Clurey is who i'm talking about. Approximately what are we giving up for Clurey?

 

[Ace Pussy]

Now that McCarthy trade is done, what do Freo do hypothetically from here, this is what im thinking:

• Compo pick received from Mayne to Pies -> Hawks for Hill
• 3rd round pick, 42 -> Cats for Kersten
• 2nd round (from GWS), 32, -> Port for Lobbe (to replace Sandi long term, ruck stocks are shit)

 

[BigBen_JRC]

Motlop for 19?

 

[The Boar]

This will never happen. Too many teams, too many players. Just a bit of fun. I won't go into why each team does the trade since it's already too long.

GCS: 8, 23 25, 29, JOM, Prestia, Sam Day for 3, 5, 10, 36, 38, 39, Barlow, Hrovat, K Stevens, Horlin-Smith, Jarryd Lyons

CAR: 5, 24, Zach Tuohy, Gibbs for 8, 15, Sam Day, Marchbank, Pickett, Gregson

GEE: Kersten, Motlop, Horlin-Smith, Gregson, Caddy, 36 for Zach Tuohy, Deledio, 18

HAW: Hill, 14, 34, Litherland, TOB, 52 for JOM, Clurey, 44

FRE: 3, Barlow, Sutcliffe, 39, Mayne Compo Pick (MCP) for 13, Hill, Motlop, Kersten, Hamling, Litherland, McCarthy

RIC: Deledio, 6, 44 for Prestia, Sutcliffe, Caddy, 24

GWS: Marchbank, Pickett, McCarthy, 15, 16 for 6, 23, 29, 52

WBD: Hamling, Hrovat, Koby Stevens, 18, 38 for 14, 16

STK: 10 for Steele, MCP

ADE: 13, Jarryd Lyons for Gibbs, 34

POR: Clurey for TOB, 25

MCP?

 

[hypertaze]

I know it's just a bit of fun but just gonna just have my say.
I don't think Hawks should use up any trade value that's not necessary. Clurey is who i'm talking about. Approximately what are we giving up for Clurey?

No worries. Essentially, it's TOB+ mid/late 2nd rd pick for Clurey. I see HAW having an excess of 2/3 tall forwards and Port have an excess of backmen (Jonas, DBJ, AUstin, Bonner, Clurey, Hombsch, Pittard without Trengrove, Hartlett, Broadbent and not counting Krakouer or O'Shea). Port also just got rid of Schulz and Butcher. TOB would fit in nicely next to Dixon, with Ryder and Westhoff rotating through. He's also a SA kid.

Looking at the Hawthorn list, in two years Gibson, Hodge, Burgoyne will likely be gone; Frawley, Stratton and Birchall will be 29-30; Doc will be 27. I'm not sold on Brand and Kurt. A straight swap of TOB for one of the young backmen might be on the cards.

 

[Mitchell54]

MCP?

Read the post. might help

 

[holdopenmyhead]

Thoughts on Wines for Pick 1 straight up? Port lose a tonne of salary cap pressure and could on-trade it for 3 and one or both of the two picks GWS has in the teens and go to the draft with 3, 9, 15 (and potentially 16 depending on GWS' desperation). Essendon get a gun inside mid who fits our age profile.

 

[Mitchell54]

No worries. Essentially, it's TOB+ mid/late 2nd rd pick for Clurey. I see HAW having an excess of 2/3 tall forwards and Port have an excess of backmen (Jonas, DBJ, AUstin, Bonner, Clurey, Hombsch, Pittard without Trengrove, Hartlett, Broadbent and not counting Krakouer or O'Shea). Port also just got rid of Schulz and Butcher. TOB would fit in nicely next to Dixon, with Ryder and Westhoff rotating through. He's also a SA kid.

Looking at the Hawthorn list, in two years Gibson, Hodge, Burgoyne will likely be gone; Frawley, Stratton and Birchall will be 29-30; Doc will be 27. I'm not sold on Brand and Kurt. A straight swap of TOB for one of the young backmen might be on the cards.

Would only be giving TOB and late 2nd up for Trengove. Would be willing to do a straight swap of TOB for Clurey. I've never seen Clurey play though so i don't know how good he is.
I might have more trust in Brand and Kurt than you.

 

[The Boar]

Read the post. might help

Ah I see. It gets worse. No chance by StK


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[cotter101]

Motlop for 19?

We have pick 19.

 

[Mitchell54]

Motlop for 19?

You might find that theirs a small issue there...