Go to cheap arse Tue myself. Why wouldn't you when you have a choice between paying more or paying less for something you wanted to do.
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Again people are putting the "free entry" into no context against the very dodgy scheduling for some of the games - some of the best attended games were the ones that were scheduled for prime-time or easy accessed grounds near public transport (see the Dogs 4 home games to open the season, all night games with West Footscray station nearby, all games ahead of the season average), and then some of the worst attended games were the ones that had shocking scheduling - Casey being in the middle of nowhere and not accessible by public transport, GWS's two home games in Sydney being scheduled at terrible times harming crowds etc. I'd much rather pay $10 to watch a game at Docklands or Princes Park than get a free game down at Casey, and I'm sure there are those in Sydney who would pay $10 to have their Friday game have been played at 7.30, not 5pm etc. (like it was last year).
I reckon the crowds could increase on the back of better scheduling for the AFLW even in spite of the obvious glow of being new and shiny last year.
I reckon the crowds could increase on the back of better scheduling for the AFLW even in spite of the obvious glow of being new and shiny last year.
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I agree with your views -except that Super Netball is unlikely to ever rate very highly in the future, as it never has in the past.
ABC 774 Radio 10 am Sports segment 11.12
ABC sports commentator, commenting on the extraordinary WBBL ratings of 469k, & A League "event" Derby very poor ratings, said the 2017 huge AFLW success "has triggered action from the other codes to make their (female -my word) sports more attractive".
Discussion then continued (as a caller then suggested) as to whether the huge AFLW ratings has made female sports more prominent & more popular -creating a " virtuous loop" of good ratings for all female sports.
Whilst the female tennis was not mentioned, it is strongly arguable that the success of the AFLW specifically has created this new appetite for the female version of the traditional, popular Australian sport of cricket. The primacy of the AFLW case is reinforced since female tennis at the Aust. Open has rated very highly for decades -but with no positive ratings' repercussions for other female sports. Historic ratings for netball are only fair; & for the WNBL & W League, abysmal.
If one accepts this theory, then a female NRL comp., if/once it attains acceptable skill levels, should rate very well.
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Yep, agree competely. I'd be much more likely to pay $10 to go to a night game at Fremantle Oval than free entry to go at 2pm in February/March. Hell, i'd pay not to go when it's 38 degrees.
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lol. The WBBL came first. Indeed, they had 430K ratings before the AFLW season started last year around this same time slot.
I would say it would be the opposite. The WBBL success paved the way for the AFLW to be more daring with its launch. I do agree that there is a positive loop which is happening around women's sport around the world atm.
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As a double header. In fact, all previous WBBL matches broadcast have been double headers with a mens match.
This seems like a no brainer for me, but they haven't gone for it
They could have played all the Fremantle women's home games at ~6 WST and have it follow the 7pm game on TV on Saturday nights...effectively get two prime time games
The do this in the a league and used to do it in the super rugby
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https://www.cricket.com.au/news/wbbl02-tv-ratings-2016-17-figures-stats-social-media/2016-12-13
BBL didn't start til the 20th, similar to this year.
These figures esp for a womens sport make the A League ones look even more pathetic.
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I think the one sided prelim crowd vs GWS will go down as the greatest crowd in afl history
94,000 fans and 90,000 of em Tigers
The roar when Lambert kicked the first goal seconds after the first bounce was deafening
94,000 fans and 90,000 of em Tigers
The roar when Lambert kicked the first goal seconds after the first bounce was deafening
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only 90,000?
It really was our day wasn’t it.
37 years of passion and thousands of thousands like myself that only memory of winning a final was the one 2 weeks earlier.
Goosebumps thinking about it
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I was in the royal pre game and it was like 50 degrees in there. sweat streamed down my face as i enjoyed beer after beer and the fine entertainment on offer whilst draped in my full Puma T7 Richmond tracksuit
will never forget
This a good summary of where soccer is at the moment This weeks matches are on track to be well below the current average as well.Ended up being an average of only 8862
Vanishing A-League fans vote with feet
A small crowd looks on during a Brisbane Roar home game against Adelaide United at Suncorp Stadium. Picture: AAP.
Amid dwindling attendances, alarming broadcasting figures and off-field shenanigans, it is not hard to see why some would be tempted to describe it as the season from hell for the A-League and Football Federation Australia.
The game’s ills have been at the forefront of media attention and commentary on social media over the past 18 months. And it is the national competition, the lifeblood of the sport in this country, which is clearly taking a big hit.
The attendance and television figures don’t make pretty reading.
Total attendance for the first 10 rounds of the season was down 92,167 on the same period last season — a 12 per cent drop. The average is down from 13,507 to 11,902.
Broadcast figures for free-to-air television show they are down some 18 per cent on last season while the pay-TV figures are down a whopping 762,000.
There is no better illustration than the numbers for last week’s Sydney derby between Western Sydney and Sydney FC.
The corresponding game last season drew more than 60,000, a record, but only just over 36,000 turned up at ANZ Stadium last week. Significantly, just 55,000 tuned into One HD to watch the biggest game in the A-League.
GRAPHIC: A-League by numbers
While admitting there are some concerns, A-League boss Greg O’Rourke remains bullish.
O’Rourke believes the off-field issues regarding FFA’s fight with FIFA and the A-League clubs, the poor results for Melbourne Victory and Western Sydney, and the extra competition from the Rugby League World Cup and the Ashes has had an impact.
“We are seeing a very different dynamic about the teams that are winning and those not winning. You have the Jets and Mariners in the top four and Victory and WSW in the bottom half,” O’Rourke said.
“While it is good for the league and potentially for fans that any team has the ability to beat any other, what it is doing for crowds ... they are down seven per cent.
“Victory have 20k-plus members but there was just a 60 per cent take-up for their game against Adelaide recently.
“The club surveyed the fans and the response was that they don’t like going to Etihad Stadium and prefer their games at AAMI and that they are unhappy with the results. It’s the same with the Wanderers. They feel displaced because Parramatta Stadium is being rebuilt and the team is performing poorly.
Vanishing A-League fans vote with feet
A small crowd looks on during a Brisbane Roar home game against Adelaide United at Suncorp Stadium. Picture: AAP.
Amid dwindling attendances, alarming broadcasting figures and off-field shenanigans, it is not hard to see why some would be tempted to describe it as the season from hell for the A-League and Football Federation Australia.
The game’s ills have been at the forefront of media attention and commentary on social media over the past 18 months. And it is the national competition, the lifeblood of the sport in this country, which is clearly taking a big hit.
The attendance and television figures don’t make pretty reading.
Total attendance for the first 10 rounds of the season was down 92,167 on the same period last season — a 12 per cent drop. The average is down from 13,507 to 11,902.
Broadcast figures for free-to-air television show they are down some 18 per cent on last season while the pay-TV figures are down a whopping 762,000.
There is no better illustration than the numbers for last week’s Sydney derby between Western Sydney and Sydney FC.
The corresponding game last season drew more than 60,000, a record, but only just over 36,000 turned up at ANZ Stadium last week. Significantly, just 55,000 tuned into One HD to watch the biggest game in the A-League.
GRAPHIC: A-League by numbers
While admitting there are some concerns, A-League boss Greg O’Rourke remains bullish.
O’Rourke believes the off-field issues regarding FFA’s fight with FIFA and the A-League clubs, the poor results for Melbourne Victory and Western Sydney, and the extra competition from the Rugby League World Cup and the Ashes has had an impact.
“We are seeing a very different dynamic about the teams that are winning and those not winning. You have the Jets and Mariners in the top four and Victory and WSW in the bottom half,” O’Rourke said.
“While it is good for the league and potentially for fans that any team has the ability to beat any other, what it is doing for crowds ... they are down seven per cent.
“Victory have 20k-plus members but there was just a 60 per cent take-up for their game against Adelaide recently.
“The club surveyed the fans and the response was that they don’t like going to Etihad Stadium and prefer their games at AAMI and that they are unhappy with the results. It’s the same with the Wanderers. They feel displaced because Parramatta Stadium is being rebuilt and the team is performing poorly.
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- May 13, 2012
- 15,812
- 5,968
- AFL Club
- GWS
- Other Teams
- Brumbies, Socceroos
Haven't heard from gallop for a while.
- May 13, 2012
- 15,812
- 5,968
- AFL Club
- GWS
- Other Teams
- Brumbies, Socceroos
Geez, I thought it was only GWS that offered free ticks
Looks like they wiil need more than free kids tickets to stop the rot
A-League stuck in the doldrums as ratings and attendances slump
- Dominic Bossi The Age
- The halfway mark of the A-League season is just around the corner but already there's a sense of stagnation around the competition, and Football Federation Australia's metrics back that up. With crowd numbers slipping and TV audiences slumping there is cause for concern for the competition.
Crowds
Newcastle, Perth and Central Coast are experiencing increases in turnouts but attendances are down by 12 per cent across the league when compared to the same point last season. The slump is largely attributed to clubs in Brisbane and Sydney.
An uninspiring competition launch affected all clubs but Suncorp Stadium has been a barren ground this season, Roar's average attendance is nearly 40 per cent lower than by round 11 last year.
However, results alone are proving to be almost irrelevant for some. Sydney FC have won every trophy on offer in the past 12 months, setting a plethora of records along the way. They're attendances are down considerably compared to this point last season once the addition of a derby this year is acknowledged.
They too are struggling to get a crowd higher than the number of members, averaging only 10,715 for non-derby games despite more than 14,000 members.
TV ratings
The move from Friday night games on SBS2 to Saturday night games on Channel Ten's subsidiary station, One, has coincided with a drop-off in ratings. This season, free-to-air numbers are down 21 per cent in spite of One handed drawcards games, such as derbies, that were never afforded to SBS.
The FFA cite the slump in ratings with clashes with The Ashes Tests in Perth and Adelaide as well as the Rugby League World Cup. However, there's no hiding their concern with One and lack of promotion from Ten whose partnership could be abandoned early.
The ratings of primary broadcaster, Fox Sports, are down 16 per cent. Fairfax Media sought comment from Fox Sports.
The A-League is far from facing a crisis but is firmly stuck in the doldrums. The cause of this quiescence stems deeper as the competition endures its longest period in its history without expansion or a major development, and the much-needed injection of life will come from structural change.
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Pretty sure kids are free every sunday in the AFL, I know Adelaide have kids for free for sunday twilight matches.
Interestingly (at this very early stage), BBL crowds are down compared to each team's respective opening home match last year, but TV ratings are well up.
Although it's probably a bit too soon to be drawing many conclusions from that yet.
Although it's probably a bit too soon to be drawing many conclusions from that yet.
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The point is, last year's were slightly better than this year's.
I wonder if the lower-drawing pre-Christmas period might be the best time to play at the one-off venues (Geelong, Canberra, Launceston, Alice Springs). There would probably be a less-noticeable hit to the season totals that way, but people in those areas might be justified in saying "hey, we're only getting one game, at least play it at an ideal time of the year".
The Renegades should also be interesting this season. The only other time they've been any good was back in BBL|02 before the league was on FTA and when attendance figures were at their smallest.
88,000 at the MCG Test was a pretty good turn out considering what happened in Melbourne last week.
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