Play Nice 2024 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings and other Industry thread

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The_Wookie said:
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Comical.

  • NRL claims it wans $12 million a year because Tasmania are paying AFL $12 million a year
  • NRL does not mention that the Tasmanian government is paying that amount due to clear tourism factors for travelling away fans and for social benefits of the main sport in the state.
  • NRL are just trying to claim that "it's for the grassroots and not the main team" (they also fail to mention that it's effectively the same thing, should the NRL desire to build up a grassroots infrastructure in WA as they likely would to develop talent and a fanbase for the new team, it's money they'd have to take away from the revenue generation of ticket sales of the team anyway, money going around in a circle)
  • WA rightly saying "we just can't just spend millions per year on a thing that the public doesn't really care about, because you ask us to" (and I wish other government bodies had that too).
  • WA still saying they'll put money into a training base and stadium base as obviously that directly contributes back to the quality of team and tourism that would generate revenue for the state for the investment into the team.
 
threenewpadlocks said:
Comical.

  • NRL claims it wans $12 million a year because Tasmania are paying AFL $12 million a year
  • NRL does not mention that the Tasmanian government is paying that amount due to clear tourism factors for travelling away fans and for social benefits of the main sport in the state.
  • NRL are just trying to claim that "it's for the grassroots and not the main team" (they also fail to mention that it's effectively the same thing, should the NRL desire to build up a grassroots infrastructure in WA as they likely would to develop talent and a fanbase for the new team, it's money they'd have to take away from the revenue generation of ticket sales of the team anyway, money going around in a circle)
  • WA rightly saying "we just can't just spend millions per year on a thing that the public doesn't really care about, because you ask us to" (and I wish other government bodies had that too).
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Quid pro quo - does that mean AFL deserves $600 million.

threenewpadlocks said:
  • WA still saying they'll put money into a training base and stadium base as obviously that directly contributes back to the quality of team and tourism that would generate revenue for the state for the investment into the team.
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The W.A. govenment built Perth Oval for the Force and the Glory with the Reds, NRL, FIFA, RA and concerts playing there.
So it's ready to re-use again.
 

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BobbyMorri said:
The A-league doing a good expansion team for once.

It's amazing what happens when you create a team with a fanbase starved of top-level soccer.
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They've really done well and Auckland have been put together very well, starting with a good coach. Long season I know, but a great start.
 




HomeAwayTotal TVTV ReachBVODBVOD Reach
PNGPM XIII191,000613,00054,000132,000
KangaroosTonga705,0001,452,000189,000315,000
JillaroosPNG Orchids44,000129,000
Fiji BatiPNG260,000872,00081,000172,000
TongaFetu Samoa
Fiji BatiCook Islands Aitu183,000668,00058,000140,000
Fiji BulikulaCook Islands Moana
KiwisKangaroos546,0001,283,000
Kiwi FernsJillaroos176,000642,000
KiwisTonga210,000424,000
Fetu SamoaFiji Bulikula
 
Round 1 of the 2024-25 #ALW season was attended by 9,449 at an average of 1,575, using 24.5% of available capacity.

Round 1 last season was the "stadium round" immediately after the WWC and would be ridiculous to use as a comparison.

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
Western UnitedWellingtonIronbark Fields8075,00016.14%
Central CoastSydneyIndustree Group Stadium3,00020,05914.96%
CanberraBrisbaneMcKellar Park1,1803,00039.33%
AdelaideMelbourne VictoryServiceFM Stadium1,0228,00012.78%
Melbourne CityPerthctrl.cyber pitch5821,50038.80%
NewcastleWestern SydneyCessnock Sportsground2,8581,000285.80%
Total9,44938,55924.51%
Matches66
Average1,5756,42724.51%

Round 1 of the 2024-25 WNBL Season was attended by 5,894 at an average of 1,474 using 22.7% of available capacity.

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
GeelongFireGeelong Arena1,0062,00050.30%
SpiritLightningRed Energy arena6194,00015.48%
LynxFlyersBendat8122,00040.60%
FlamesUC CapsQudos Bank Arena3,45718,00019.21%
Total5,89426,00022.67%
Matches44
Average1,4746,50022.67%
 
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Sorry The_Wookie for stealing your work but what the heck happened to aleague womens crowds thought after the womens world cup it would atleast be close to aflw crowd levels and yet they only get 2 crowds over 2k
 
pattymalone00 said:
Sorry The_Wookie for stealing your work but what the heck happened to aleague womens crowds thought after the womens world cup it would atleast be close to aflw crowd levels and yet they only get 2 crowds over 2k
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the buzz lasted the first round and returned to slightly higher than the previous norm, as predicted by almost everyone.
 
ound 7 of the 2024-25 NBL Season was attended by 57,153 at an average of 7,144, using 67.7% of the available capacity. The season to date has seen 318,819 attend at an average of 6,783. This is down 6.33% on the first 7 rounds of the 2023-24 season

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
UnitedKingsJCA6,73410,30065.38%
JackjumpersPhoenixSilverdome3,2554,00081.38%
WildcatsHawksRAC Arena10,42114,00074.44%
Breakers36ersSpark Arena5,5379,74056.85%
TaipansBulletsCCC4,4455,34583.16%
PhoenixWildcatsJCA8,36210,30081.18%
KIngsJackjumpersQudos Bank Arena9,12418,00050.69%
UnitedBreakersJCA9,27510,30090.05%
57,15381,98569.71%
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7,14410,24869.71%
 
91,168 at the Melbourne Cup.

Highest crowd since 2016, but still falls short of the 100K+ crowds the event used to get through the 2000s to mid 2010s.

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magic_johnson! said:
Those Melbourne crowds are stinkers - especially the Melbourne city one on public holiday eve.
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MCG had the ODI opposite the road, but not really and excuse.

Western United is clearly a poorly thought out team in pure sporting reasons. The extra cash from Fox combined with the fact that the sport was being used as a vehicle for other land development reasons by the owners is the only reason it even has existed as a team. I don't think crowds of this size are ever truly unsurprising in that context for people who had common sense foresight. They couldn't even build a proper fanbase over time with a nomadic introduction.
 
Weekend crowds

CodeRoundHomeAwayVenueAttendance
RacingVRCStakes DayFlemington Race Cource62,022
NRLPacCupKangaroosTongaCommbank Stadium28,728
CAODIAustraliaPakistanAdelaide Oval21938
CAODIAustraliaPakistanOptus Stadium19781
NRLPacCupJillaroosKiwi FernsCommbank Stadium17,503
ALM4SydneyMacarthurAllianz Stadium12,194
ALM4Mlelbourne VictoryBRisbaneAami Park11,251
NBL8WildcatsJackjumpersRAC Arena10,793
ALM4AdelaideWestern UnitedCoopers Stadium10,166
NBL836ersHawksAEC9,423
NBL8KingsPhoenixQudos Bank Arena8,052
NBL8UnitedWildcatsJCA7,885
ALM4PerthMelbourne CityHBF Park7,338
NBL8PhoenixTaipansJCA6,834
ALM4Central CoastWellingtonIndustree Group Stadium6,493
ALM4Western SydneyNewcastleCommbank Stadium6,220
AFLWFW4Port AdelaideRichmondAlberton5,172
AFLWFW3HawthornBrisbaneIkon Park5,015
AFLWFW2FremantleEssendonFremantle Oval4,934
NBL8JackjumpersBreakersMyStateBank Arena4,340
WNBL2UC CapsSpiritAIS Arena4,128
NBL8BulletsUnitedBEC4,101
ALW2Melbourne VictoryMelbourne CityAami Park 3,850
AFLWFW1North MelbourneAdeaideIkon Park3,689
ALW2PerthNewcastleHBF Park1,873
ALW2BrisbaneSydneyPerry Park1,856
WNBL2FlyersFlamesSBC1,627
WNBL2GeelongFlyersGeelong Arena650
ALW2WellingtonCanberraPorirua Park645
ALW2Western UnitedCentral CoastIronbark Fields617
WNBL2LynxFireBendat582
ALW2Western SydneyAdelaideWanderers Footbal Park472
WNBL2LIghtningLynxAdelaide 36ers Arena
 
The 2024 #PacificChampionships were attended by more than 114,816 people across 14 matches, with an average day attendance of 19,136. (73% of capacity)

  • Kangaroos/Tonga 33,196 @ Suncorp Stadium
  • Kangaroos/Tonga 28,728 @ Commbank Stadium
  • Kiwis/Tonga 22,363 @ GoMedia Stadium

Kiwis/Kangaroos 17,005 @ Apollo Project Stadium (Note Attendances in Port Moresby are Not available at this time - if you can fill the gaps please feel free to DM me)

4.38 million people have now attended professional rugby league this year in the Australia, NZ, Fiji and PNG

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More than 3.725m tuned in to see the 2024 #pacificchampionship FTA on the Nine network. The 10 rated matches we know of average 372,000, while the average reach was 892,000.
  • Kangaroos/Tonga (Grp Stg) 705,000 (Rch 1.452m)
  • Kangaroos/Tonga (Final) 614,000 (Rch 1.312m) *NC
  • Kiwis/Kangaroos 558,000 (Rch 1.348m) *AU only Data: VOZ (Au FTA only)

A-leagues

Round 4 of the 2024-25 #ALM season was attended by 53,662 at an average of 8,944 per game (33.6% capacity).

The season to date has seen 256,336 attend at an average of 10,681 per game (35.6% of capacity). This is up 35.6% on the first 4 rounds of 2023-24

This remains the best start to a season on average since 2019-20, and on aggregate since 2018-19.


Round 2 of the 2024-25 #ALW season was attended by 9,313 at an average of 1,552 using 14% of available capacity.

2 matches were doubleheaders. The 4 standalone matches attracted 3,590 at an average of 898 per match, using 28% of available capacity.

The opening 2 rounds of the season have seen 18,762 walk through the gates at an average of 1,564 (18% cap), this is down 54.6% on the 2023-2024 season (bearing in mind there was no post WWC "stadium round".

Stand alone matches have seen 10,039 attend at an average of 1,115 per game (32% cap)



AFLW

The first round of the 2024 #AFLW finals was attended by 18,810 at an average of 4,703 (49% of capacity). This is down slightly (1.15%) on the first week of finals in 2023.



NBL and WNBL

Round 8 of the 204-25 NBL season was attended by 51,428 at an average of 6,429 per game (65.9% capacity) The season to date has been attended by 370,247 at an average of 6,732 (from one less match), down 5.96% on average and down 7.64% on aggregate.



Round 2 of the 2024-25 #WNBL season was attended by 6,987 at an average of 1,747 (61% capacity) with the crowd for adelaide/Perth TBA. This is up 10.28% on the opening rounds of 2023-24 on average.



Cricket
  • Australia v Pakistan ODI - Optus Stadium, 19,781
  • Australia v Pakistan ODI - Adelaide Oval, 21,398
The three match Aus/Pakistan ODI series was attended by 67,550 at an average of 22,517 (32% capacity).


Racing



 
Cricket really needs to get itself back on FTA or it WILL go down the same path as Rugby Union.

They need to start treating themselves as the dominant summer sport, and not some niche interest on pay TV and streaming.
 
Fire said:
Cricket really needs to get itself back on FTA or it WILL go down the same path as Rugby Union.

They need to start treating themselves as the dominant summer sport, and not some niche interest on pay TV and streaming.
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With the non-test International matches hidden behind a pay wall, hardly anyone knows they are even being played anymore. Crowds have halved, and saying that is probably being generous.
 
Fox Streaming 3-9/11

DateChannelPrimary DescriptionBVOD AudienceBVOD Reach
04/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: ODI: AUS V PAK GAME 1 IN2179,000420,000
03/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: BRAZIL QUALIFYING176,000280,000
04/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: BRAZIL RACE153,000241,000
04/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: ODI: AUS V PAK GAME 1 IN1129,000311,000
08/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: ODI: AUS V PAK GAME 2 IN2126,000295,000
08/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: ODI: AUS V PAK GAME 2 IN1116,000294,000
03/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: BRAZIL PIT LANE QUALIFYING74,000124,000
03/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: MOTOGP: MALAYSIA RACE72,00096,000
03/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: BRAZIL PIT LANE QUALIFYING67,000138,000
04/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: GRAND PRIX SUNDAY67,000205,000
04/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: F1: CHEQUERED FLAG50,000150,000
09/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: WBBL: RENEGADES V STARS IN243,00090,000
03/11/2024Fox Sports 506LIVE: MOTORSPORT: MOTOGP: THE GRID36,00085,000
09/11/2024Fox CricketLIVE: WBBL: RENEGADES V STARS IN136,00077,000
 
Clarification on the below, record single day attendance for a test match in WA.

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Random trivia, here is the best attended day for each city's Test last summer:
  • Perth - v Pakistan - day 2 - 17666
  • Melbourne - v Pakistan - day 1 (Boxing Day!) - 62167
  • Sydney - v Pakistan - day 1 - 33905
  • Adelaide - v West Indies - day 1 - 26361
  • Brisbane - v West Indies - day 2 - 29216

And for no particular reason, the aggregates in each city were, in descending order:

Melbourne - 164842
Sydney - 125292
Brisbane - 67164
Adelaide - 67050
Perth - 59215

Make of that what you will!
 

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