2017 Ladder Predictions

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If port finish in 10th again (or lower) I will happily be ur personal assistant, free of charge, for the rest of my days...

But sorry, it ain't gonna happen.

No probs. Obviously your crystal ball is a lot better than mine... but my ladder has them 9th with Collingwood, the only reason you see that as 10th is that P comes after C in the alphabet.....;)
 

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If port finish in 10th again (or lower) I will happily be ur personal assistant, free of charge, for the rest of my days...

But sorry, it ain't gonna happen.

What if Boak, Gray and Ryder all end up missing the majority of the season?

All predictions should be with the caveat 'all things being equal' (i.e everyone fit and healthy)
 
Analysed every game for the year and this is the ladder Ive come up with...
The problem with these ladders, as much as I respect the effort put in, is that 'analysing' is still guessing who wins what games based on a sense of how good you already think each team will be. In short, it's a self-fulfilling exercise.
 
If port finish in 15th, I will happily be ur slave for the rest of my days...

But it's not gonna happen!

Cant see them improving and most teams under them will.
 
The problem with these ladders, as much as I respect the effort put in, is that 'analysing' is still guessing who wins what games based on a sense of how good you already think each team will be. In short, it's a self-fulfilling exercise.

In short, its a time fulfilling exercise for footy obsessed crazy people to amuse themselves in the off season. It serves the purpose of generating conversation within in the BF community. Hence the thread.

And yes you're right about the guessing part and we do tend to over-inflate our teams position based on an optimistic outcome of where we think our potential lies. I don't see an issue with people being excited about their own team and the work they are putting in during the off season.
 
I can't see us making the 8 this year, even though I think we'll have our sh*t together.
I don't know if my crystal ball is better than anyone else's but this is how I'll guess they finish

72 Western Bulldogs
68 GWS
64 Adelaide
60 Sydney
56 Melbourne
52 Freo
52 West Coast
48 Hawthorn
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44 Collingwood
44 Port Adelaide
40 Essendon
40 Geelong
40 Gold Coast
32 St. Kilda
24 North Melbourne
24 Richmond
20 Brisbane
12 Carlton
There is no chance Geelong will only win 10 games for the year. 7 at Simonds alone gtees at least 6
 

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How will they improve?

From the side you beat by 40 points?

Oh I don't know...maybe playing Ryder, Hombsch, Hartlett, Jonas, White and having the ability to select Monfries if he's in form for a start.

Then we could have an uninjured Wingard and Dixon playing for us instead of the crocked versions we had on the ground who couldn't run...both of which were put on the injury list after the game.

Ooh, ooh, I know! We can then put Trengove back into defense and not have him be all beat up because he had to ruck for most of the season. We can do the same with Broadbent who was covering for White on the wing. That will help our defence out I'm sure.

So basically, we can completely change our defence and upgrade our midfield, ruck AND attacking options...just by getting the players we were missing back and playing in their right positions. And by actually winning a decent amount of the ball in ruck, our midfielders can increase the amount of forward 50 entries we get. Here's a fun fact for you: did you know that our score to entry ratio was 1.7 points over the season? And that Melbourne's was 1.64? And that's with all those players missing.

That's how we'll improve. And I haven't even started on the added dimension that playing contested ball winners like Powell-Pepper, Atley and Drew will provide the dynamic of our side.

So yeah, when you put down Port as a win, considering you're coming back from the heat of Darwin in a game against Adelaide vs us playing North Melbourne at AO...I consider that optimistic. Not saying it isn't going to happen, but I wouldn't be banking on it.
 
From the side you beat by 40 points?

Oh I don't know...maybe playing Ryder, Hombsch, Hartlett, Jonas, White and having the ability to select Monfries if he's in form for a start.

Then we could have an uninjured Wingard and Dixon playing for us instead of the crocked versions we had on the ground who couldn't run...both of which were put on the injury list after the game.

Ooh, ooh, I know! We can then put Trengove back into defense and not have him be all beat up because he had to ruck for most of the season. We can do the same with Broadbent who was covering for White on the wing. That will help our defence out I'm sure.

So basically, we can completely change our defence and upgrade our midfield, ruck AND attacking options...just by getting the players we were missing back and playing in their right positions. And by actually winning a decent amount of the ball in ruck, our midfielders can increase the amount of forward 50 entries we get. Here's a fun fact for you: did you know that our score to entry ratio was 1.7 points over the season? And that Melbourne's was 1.64? And that's with all those players missing.

That's how we'll improve. And I haven't even started on the added dimension that playing contested ball winners like Powell-Pepper, Atley and Drew will provide the dynamic of our side.

So yeah, when you put down Port as a win, considering you're coming back from the heat of Darwin in a game against Adelaide vs us playing North Melbourne at AO...I consider that optimistic. Not saying it isn't going to happen, but I wouldn't be banking on it.
I couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsu::)
 
From the side you beat by 40 points?

Oh I don't know...maybe playing Ryder, Hombsch, Hartlett, Jonas, White and having the ability to select Monfries if he's in form for a start.

Then we could have an uninjured Wingard and Dixon playing for us instead of the crocked versions we had on the ground who couldn't run...both of which were put on the injury list after the game.

Ooh, ooh, I know! We can then put Trengove back into defense and not have him be all beat up because he had to ruck for most of the season. We can do the same with Broadbent who was covering for White on the wing. That will help our defence out I'm sure.

So basically, we can completely change our defence and upgrade our midfield, ruck AND attacking options...just by getting the players we were missing back and playing in their right positions. And by actually winning a decent amount of the ball in ruck, our midfielders can increase the amount of forward 50 entries we get. Here's a fun fact for you: did you know that our score to entry ratio was 1.7 points over the season? And that Melbourne's was 1.64? And that's with all those players missing.

That's how we'll improve. And I haven't even started on the added dimension that playing contested ball winners like Powell-Pepper, Atley and Drew will provide the dynamic of our side.

So yeah, when you put down Port as a win, considering you're coming back from the heat of Darwin in a game against Adelaide vs us playing North Melbourne at AO...I consider that optimistic. Not saying it isn't going to happen, but I wouldn't be banking on it.
That's all fine for 2016. What happened in 2015
 
We had a few fair changes, one was Walsh out, and then Paddy and Voss coming in.

We were defo unsettled.
No doubt. But Janus used injuries and team placements. Apart from Paddy , who should have been an immediate lift, everyone else was doing ok ( from memory)
 
No doubt. But Janus used injuries and team placements. Apart from Paddy , who should have been an immediate lift, everyone else was doing ok ( from memory)
Ok. But was Janus talkin about 15 or 16?

But either way, I think 17 will be a great for us, and the next few years to come. No flag is ever guaranteed, but I think we'll be somewhere up there, challenging the best teams, for quite some time.
 
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In short, its a time fulfilling exercise for footy obsessed crazy people to amuse themselves in the off season. It serves the purpose of generating conversation within in the BF community. Hence the thread.
Abso **** lutely. It's just that I don't think it comes up with a better answer than our intuitive guesses of how we think teams will go. Even 'hard' or 'easy' fixtures depend on how other teams actually go, not just over the whole season, but over parts of it.

And yes you're right about the guessing part and we do tend to over-inflate our teams position based on an optimistic outcome of where we think our potential lies. I don't see an issue with people being excited about their own team and the work they are putting in during the off season.
I wasn't commenting on assessments of our own teams.
 
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