2017 Member Forum

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

Maybe. But I am better dialled into what is occurring at the club than anyone here.

I have known Peter Murphy through the VAFA for years (he's involved with Old Carey) and holiday near him in Portsea. He told Eddie some home truths, which won't see the light of day. What I do know, is he did such a good job as an interim CEO trying to change the organisational culture that he significant gravitas with the board now. Christine Holgate in particular who is obsessed by due diligence and governance.

The next mistake Eddie makes, he will be waiting in the wings to send him off. He got the board to rally against him when he wanted to appoint my mate from Xavs in Jars. The tide is turning

So Peter Murphy is leaking internal conversations about the club to non important peoples and yourself ?

 

[jmac70]

My only agenda is seeing the CFC flourish. If you can't seperate a figure who passes through the doors from the football club in totality, it useless conversing with you. Good day

My belief is that the majority of members still support Ed. Your rumour mongering is really nothing more than smelly air.

 

[jmac70]

So Peter Murphy is leaking internal conversations about the club to non important peoples and yourself ?

Seems he leaks more than Pert...

 

[jmac70]

If you ask people in the industry about what occurred with the board and the Jars appointment, it's pretty well known. Nothing I stated can be interpreted as a leak.

Exactly. You have no new content.

 

[BPikkers]

BarnabyBE may well be ‘dialled in’. Sometimes there are things we don’t want to hear. I don’t think what he is saying is anything we didn’t already suspect, however, for all we know he can satisfy some posters who only deal in FACTS.

We all want to see the Pies successful both on and off the field. I don’t know how many supporters can honestly say they are satisfied with how the club has performed over the past 5 years and importantly feel very confident with where it is heading over the next 5 years.

Everyone has a used by date. Some of the best CEOs in the corporate world know it’s time (or are pushed) to move on.

Ed’s been in the role for a very, very long time. The overall culture of a club can’t change with such a strong Head who has been at the helm for so long.

I think we have got a long way to go. I’m not as bullish as some in our team and talent. Hopefully this draft is the beginning of a complete refresh, but it will take another draft or two to build an exciting team. I look at the teams in the 8 and those knocking on the door and see the improvement most of them have (whether is be development or through what they have just recruited). I don’t know where ours will be coming from. The older guys aren’t going to improve. Maybe having Wells play most of the season will help. So you need guys like Moore, DeGoey, Cox, Treloar, Scharenberg, Maynard to improve a hell of a lot because we just don’t have the young talent on the list capable as yet. We are really going to need to rely on having an injury free year.

 

[jmac70]

It doesn't matter if the majority of the members support Eddie anymore. The board and the election process has been set up in a such manner that gerrymandering has run rampant. It will be up to the board who decides his future.

That fact that people such as Holgate have overruled the president with Lethlean and trying to appoint his mate back as the football manager indicate the power dynamic has changed. If you are too naive not to read the wind, it's not for me to highlight your belief that one man is more important than the sum part of the entire club

I never said Ed is more important that the club, you did.

 

[jmac70]

Your post implied that. Nice obfuscation

You said Ed believes he is more important than the club. I don’t believe that.
Simple enough for you?

 

[Good Degoe]

And to think the Beatles made Apple
(Think about it)

And whatever they paid in that settlement probably looks like a bargain now, they really shouldn't have been allowed to use it at all

 

[Good Degoe]

Send me a DM and I will show you how dialled I am.

Give it up Ro, you're not even living off your own past glories, you didn't have the talent of your esteemed brethren

 

[76woodenspooners]

Quote from PERT above

"That isn't helped by any change of leadership. They are the two guys that are going to be driving it for the next three years."

He was the sole reason Walsh left in the first place. He was responsible for the culture revolution. Pert's "reading of the play" back in 2014 was crap....hence why he longer works at our Club 76.

Pert was the CEO, so absolutely he bears some responsibility in this, I’m not disagreeing with you.

My point is that Pert was articulating an opinion that had tentacles right throughout the club, including people who remain at the club.

For example, could you imagine this conversation taking place in 2014 ...

Ed: “Hey Nathan, ya got a minute?”

Bucks: “Yeah, sure, what’s up?”

Ed: “I’m worried about Perty, he’s going around telling the members that Jesse White will be part of our next Premiership. Has he gone mad?”

Bucks: “Yeah, he’s stark raving bonkers” <Bucks shakes his head>

Ed: “And he’s telling the members that we’re going to be competing for a Premiership for a year or two!!”

Bucks: “That’s just crazy talk, we’ll be lucky if we even make finals in the next few years!”

Ed: “Yeah, that’s what I thought too. I might have to have a quiet word to him to stop him from embarrassing himself and the club”

 

[Mukesh]

Maybe. But I am better dialled into what is occurring at the club than anyone here.

I have known Peter Murphy through the VAFA for years (he's involved with Old Carey) and holiday near him in Portsea. He told Eddie some home truths, which won't see the light of day. What I do know, is he did such a good job as an interim CEO trying to change the organisational culture that he significant gravitas with the board now. Christine Holgate in particular who is obsessed by due diligence and governance.

The next mistake Eddie makes, he will be waiting in the wings to send him off. He got the board to rally against him when he wanted to appoint my mate from Xavs in Jars. The tide is turning

I’m sorry... what’s a Jars ??? All this speaking in tongues is doing my head in

 

[76woodenspooners]

There's a problem.

Too early to say IMHO.

I guess we’ll see what happens in 2018.

 

[Mukesh]

Lethlean (Jars)

Okkk thanks... the reference escaped me. Don’t know the guy at all but he looks dodgy..

 

[jmac70]

Okkk thanks... the reference escaped me. Don’t know the guy at all but he looks dodgy..

He cheats on his wife, but everyone already knew that.

 

[BPikkers]

He cheats on his wife, but everyone already knew that.

Unfortunately he wouldn’t be the first, and certainly not the last.

 

[MyManLynch]

Unfortunately he wouldn’t be the first, and certainly not the last.

I cheated on my best mates Wife, by sleeping with her Sister...my Wife was ok with it...quite happy actually.

 

[Help My Club]

Welcome aboard Barnarby.

I hope you choose to hang around. You raise some interesting points, particularly regarding McGuire.

In particular I note your comments below:

............."The club and board did look at replacing Buckley and they even contacted potential coaches. The main reason he stayed is there weren't any suitable candidates in their eyes and the guy Eddie was pining over didn't want a bar of him. Things won't change until there is an entire cultural change with governance and due diligence. As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

I have no doubt that McGuire is the "scourge" of the CFC and this club cannot move forward positively until he is removed. There will be the odd bit of window dressing, to appease the captured supporter base, but nothing of genuine substance. In particular regarding corporate governance, case in point is the independent review(s). Let's think this through very simply. McGuire commissioned the review(s) so therefore by extension, it could not be independent. This is plain and simple. Logical. And further, if the review(s) happened to be genuinely independent (which it could not), how could 2 of the 3 architects involved in Collingwood's regression over the past 4 + years still be actively involved in the club?

Your comments on Murphy and Holgate are interesting. My mail some months ago was that certain Board members were getting jack of McGuire however as you stated, he has weasled his way through. Once the reins are handed over to the new CEO Anderson, it will be interesting to see how the dynamics play out. I suspect you are right that Murphy has been strong and held firm in the face of McGuire interference. Will this be the case under Anderson or will he fall in line as have so many before him? If so, then of course, how strong will the Board be?

In summary, your last sentence sums it up perfectly - "As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

Good luck and stay in touch.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

He cheats on his wife, but everyone already knew that.

What?????
When??????
Can't be - stunned.

Lucky we have full moon posters to tell us this rivetting news

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Does anyone wonder sometimes....

If Maybe two posters are the same poster?

Just a passing thought.

 

[jmac70]

Welcome aboard Barnarby.

I hope you choose to hang around. You raise some interesting points, particularly regarding McGuire.

In particular I note your comments below:

............."The club and board did look at replacing Buckley and they even contacted potential coaches. The main reason he stayed is there weren't any suitable candidates in their eyes and the guy Eddie was pining over didn't want a bar of him. Things won't change until there is an entire cultural change with governance and due diligence. As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

I have no doubt that McGuire is the "scourge" of the CFC and this club cannot move forward positively until he is removed. There will be the odd bit of window dressing, to appease the captured supporter base, but nothing of genuine substance. In particular regarding corporate governance, case in point is the independent review(s). Let's think this through very simply. McGuire commissioned the review(s) so therefore by extension, it could not be independent. This is plain and simple. Logical. And further, if the review(s) happened to be genuinely independent (which it could not), how could 2 of the 3 architects involved in Collingwood's regression over the past 4 + years still be actively involved in the club?

Your comments on Murphy and Holgate are interesting. My mail some months ago was that certain Board members were getting jack of McGuire however as you stated, he has weasled his way through. Once the reins are handed over to the new CEO Anderson, it will be interesting to see how the dynamics play out. I suspect you are right that Murphy has been strong and held firm in the face of McGuire interference. Will this be the case under Anderson or will he fall in line as have so many before him? If so, then of course, how strong will the Board be?

In summary, your last sentence sums it up perfectly - "As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

Good luck and stay in touch.

Seems you’ve found a kindred spirit.

 

[left at home]

Does anyone wonder sometimes....

If Maybe two posters are the same poster?

Just a passing thought.

Well there are two who post in a very similar way, and ones new.

 

[Good Degoe]

Welcome aboard Barnarby.

I hope you choose to hang around. You raise some interesting points, particularly regarding McGuire.

In particular I note your comments below:

............."The club and board did look at replacing Buckley and they even contacted potential coaches. The main reason he stayed is there weren't any suitable candidates in their eyes and the guy Eddie was pining over didn't want a bar of him. Things won't change until there is an entire cultural change with governance and due diligence. As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

I have no doubt that McGuire is the "scourge" of the CFC and this club cannot move forward positively until he is removed. There will be the odd bit of window dressing, to appease the captured supporter base, but nothing of genuine substance. In particular regarding corporate governance, case in point is the independent review(s). Let's think this through very simply. McGuire commissioned the review(s) so therefore by extension, it could not be independent. This is plain and simple. Logical. And further, if the review(s) happened to be genuinely independent (which it could not), how could 2 of the 3 architects involved in Collingwood's regression over the past 4 + years still be actively involved in the club?

Your comments on Murphy and Holgate are interesting. My mail some months ago was that certain Board members were getting jack of McGuire however as you stated, he has weasled his way through. Once the reins are handed over to the new CEO Anderson, it will be interesting to see how the dynamics play out. I suspect you are right that Murphy has been strong and held firm in the face of McGuire interference. Will this be the case under Anderson or will he fall in line as have so many before him? If so, then of course, how strong will the Board be?

In summary, your last sentence sums it up perfectly - "As long as Eddie is there, that will always be an issue"

Good luck and stay in touch.

 

[Good Degoe]

The one worry for Anderson on the surface (he has an excellent CV and I applaud the due process in his appointment) is his ties to John Bertrand. The ex sailor is very close to Eddie through South Yarra/Toorak and SEN with Gary Pert. One wonders how much nepotism played in his appointment.

I am informed at the club forum not one question was asked about the Gubby affair. If anyone has a political mind here, it a glorified Dorothy Dixer forum.

You're talking to yourself again Rohan, just accept your fate mate, your family is football royalty, but you didn't get any of that talent so despite your last name you're just another troll with an agenda

 

[Saintly Viewed]

 

[Soups]

Does anyone wonder sometimes....

If Maybe two posters are the same poster?

Just a passing thought.

There’s a lot more than two SV!