Official Club Stuff 2017 Membership Tally
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On anecdotal evidence
Hawks 10K
Roos 7K
saints 1700
Assume Pies/Dons/Blues/Tigers similar
Other Vic clubs, Syd/Bris 1k
Other interstate 1K total
That makes around 30k.
2018 could see six teams over 70k. Crows, WC, Pies, Bombers, Tiges and Hawks. Who will be first to 80k? (Certainly won't be us).
You'd think Hawthorn would be pushing uphill to get 70,000 next year unless there's a big FA signing in the off-season.
I think a lot of supporters buy memberships to feel that they are part of the club and dont go to every match and I feel this trend will continue
The club that could join the big boys over the next few seasons is Carlton if they keep on improving and make the eight.
Thanks Walshawk.....so that is approx 30,000 people currently living in Tassie who are basically paid up (admittedly probably only for 3 or 4 match membership or "non-match attending" membership) members of AFL clubs. Given Tassie does not truly have it's own club those numbers are significant. You would think the majority of these people would fully support a Tassie club as paid up members and then there would be significant numbers over and above this who would join up. My point is that really there is already a basis for a paid up lobby group of potential Tassie AFL members to promote the formation of a club in Tassie.
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At the end of June, the following membership figures have been published
AFL
All figures from club websites unless specified.
AFL
All figures from club websites unless specified.
- Adelaide - 72,930 (afc.com.au, June 14) - new record!
- Hawthorn - 72,552
- Richmond - 70,263
- Essendon - 66,664 - new record!
- West Coast - 64,742
- Port Adelaide - 58,564
- Sydney - 58,130 - new record!
- Geelong - 55,111 - new record!
- Carlton - 49,301
- Western Bulldogs – 46,567 - new record
- Fremantle - 46,028 (afl.com.au, December 27th)
- Melbourne - 41,431 - new record!
- St Kilda - 40,928 - new record!
- North Melbourne - 39,819
- Brisbane - 21,203
- Greater Western Sydney - 20,404- new record
- Gold Coast - 11,324
- Collingwood - No figures at this time.
- Hawthorn (Tasmania) - 9,370 (Sunday Tasmanian, May 13)
- Greater Western Sydney (ACT) - 4,268 (The Telegraph May 29)
- North Melbourne (Tasmania) - No figures at this time.
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Dogs website for the last week has been showing 46,567 figure.
Dirty Bird
Pokémon Master
I have a feeling adelaides number will come down substantially with the afl one
We do now have a "we fly as one" membership
What does it get?
Club emails
Priority ticket sales ahead of the public
And 10% off at the shop
Cost?
Nothing
We do now have a "we fly as one" membership
What does it get?
Club emails
Priority ticket sales ahead of the public
And 10% off at the shop
Cost?
Nothing
scoreboard @ MCG yesterday thanked Hawthorn'a 73,502 members.
Hey the Wookie, I'm getting 835,961 as the total of those listed numbers....if so then 900k is looking pretty much a lock, no?
The Blue Baggers
Premiership Player
- Apr 7, 2013
- 3,919
- 3,280
- AFL Club
- Carlton
The Hawks & Magpies both have 70k + members and the game only attracts 50k ish !!
AFL membership nos are almost meaningless !!
Do you want to make it a rule that you can't be a member unless you can go to every game? Come on.
Both clubs have around 60 members in Victoria. Assume half of them can go to a given game (like me can get to about every second game) and the crowd was closer to 60k which all adds up.
My local RSL club has 2000 members. Yet last Saturday night there were only a few hundred people there. They must be cooking the books.
The Blue Baggers
Premiership Player
- Apr 7, 2013
- 3,919
- 3,280
- AFL Club
- Carlton
European & American football clubs play in front of fully sold out grounds with waiting list.
Probably only West Coast , Adelaide & the Cats playing out of a smaller venue can claim that !!
And your point about club memberships being meaningless is...?
- Jun 30, 2014
- 10,169
- 5,513
- AFL Club
- Essendon
- Banned
- #393
Essendon on occasions at Etihad!
The NFL is different, America has a population of 300 plus million & one to two teams max per state and doesn't broadcast games lives against the gate in the state the game is being played at
As oppose to the afl 24 million and 18 teams 9 in Victoria alone! If there was less teams and a smaller venue than the mcg many of the large Victorian teams would play to packed venues
You clearly do not understand the value a large membership has to a club. It is not just the direct revenue. It is a database for sponsors. It is very meaningful for the clubs, if not for you.
Dirty Bird
Pokémon Master
4 in California
3 in Florida
- Jun 30, 2014
- 10,169
- 5,513
- AFL Club
- Essendon
- Banned
- #396
California is listed to have population of39 million & Florida around 20 million
Dirty Bird
Pokémon Master
That makes me wonderCalifornia is listed to have population of39 million & Florida around 20 million
What's the population of New Jersey (2) and Ohio (2)
I think the only other state with multiples is Texas, but they're huge. Bigger than cal I believe
Ps. I just read the rest. (I just got eager to prove you wrong)
You're not entirely correct in regards to broadcasting live against the gate.
It's blacked out if it's not a sell out.
Teams like Oakland and Jacksonville have put tarps over their upper tiers over the years to reduce capacity so they can actually classify games as sell outs to get games on tv.
Though. That may have changed in the last tv deal. I remember there were some changes. Not sure what exactly but idk.
New Jersey ~ 9 million
Ohio ~ 11.5 million
I think the point is to talk about fully sold out stadiums and membership waiting lists needs reference to both the number of teams relative to population and stadium size.
Collingwood and Hawthorn are two of 9.5 clubs in a city of 4.5 million playing out of a 100K stadium. Not surprisingly, its membership structure differs from overseas franchises where there are 1 or 2 clubs in similar population catchments or even the WA clubs, of which there are 2 in city of 2million playing out of a 40k stadium.
Hawthorn has several thousand Tassie members, each club has other 3 game type categories. Collingwood has Legends memberships (~$900) that barely go. They both get more money from the memberships than other australian sporting clubs have total revenues. To say they are meaningless is ridiculous
The Blue Baggers
Premiership Player
- Apr 7, 2013
- 3,919
- 3,280
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Couple of your points are valid but
- How do you know $900 members do not attend games ?? That said someone paying $900 a season is a member.
I more question the 3 game $100 members . There are games with allegedly 140k members that struggle to draw 50k. But since posting the replies have confirmed its more about a registered supporter base that can be sold to sponsors !!
Because I've heard of a Collingwood supporter (a few years back to be fair), who lived OS but had a legends membership in part to guarantee a GF ticket. I also can see a shyte load of empty seats in season ticket areas most weeks - i.e. people with expensive membership / seat packages who aren't going to every game - and of course a lot more in seasons we are not doing well. In other places where a team plays out of a stadium that has supply is constrained by capacity, season ticket holders can have their seats resold are compensated by their clubs. There is no incentive to do this when you play in a 100k seat stadium
...how are there games "with over 140k members" when many of the members are 3 game members, most are probably home game only members, many are country and interstate members etc?
I'd say primarily the motivation for these three game memberships is extra revenue and to get extra names on the books that might be up-sold at some point in the future. My understanding is that the home team does not get the gate directly and so memberships are worth more than GA, as well. I'm sure having big memberships helps with getting sponsors as well...again, what of it?
