Position 2017 Midfielders

[Moustachio]

Just out of interest, did you pay $695k for Goldstein last season?

I didn't either... I did pick Danger. But its prolly just coz I'm a nab challenge whore.

 

[DraftPunk]

no. I argued strongly against taking Goldy. I backed myself to find better value Captains in midfield (I chose Fyfe ahead of Danger which was my season killer - I was in the "Danger will be a slow starter" camp). I also had Leuenburger so it's not like my ruck strategy was any good either!!!

I try and look for value everywhere, the exception generally being the Superpremo mids. You need the highest scorers as C and VC from round 1. You can see why I'm torn on Danger. I'm sure one or maybe even two of Pendles, Rocky, Ablett, JPK and Fyfe will be his equal or even outscore him early on. Which ones however I have no idea!

Fair enough. I started with Goldy, and while it was pretty annoying watching him drop cash and underperform, I wouldn't say it destroyed my season. Maybe because he was still the number 2 Ruck. If Danger's average drops to 115-120 and he loses 100k in the first 8 rounds I'm not going to be too bothered, I'll still have a Top 5 Mid and a C option. Those guys you mentioned may outscore him early on, but he will end up ahead by the end of the year IMO.

 

[markm106]

I'm thinking Viney and Wines could be good POD breakout mids this year. Not in my team currently but if you get one on these right you're doing well.
Also think Dylan Shiel and B Crouch are other good potentials.

 

[DraftPunk]

I'm thinking Viney and Wines could be good POD breakout mids this year. Not in my team currently but if you get one on these right you're doing well.
Also think Dylan Shiel and B Crouch are other good potentials.

Had Shiel last year, he doesn't get looked after very well by CD so his ceiling isn't very high. Very consistent but his highest score was 120. CD would have to start treating him like Rance or Pendles before I considered him again. Wines is a bit the same.

 

[KardiniaPark]

Had Shiel last year, he doesn't get looked after very well by CD so his ceiling isn't very high. Very consistent but his highest score was 120. CD would have to start treating him like Rance or Pendles before I considered him again. Wines is a bit the same.

It's not CD it's lack of game time.

 

[toxic]

Still hungover

Bloody Xmas parties

Someone bring me chips and gravy along with a large pizza, ham, salami, prawns, cheese, olives

 

[Hairy Lager]

Still hungover

Bloody Xmas parties

Someone bring me chips and gravy along with a large pizza, ham, salami, prawns, cheese, olives

Here you go...
Whoops...same as...

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Here you go...
Whoops...same as...

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That cat looks like he's seen it all before.

 

[KenTucker]

Still hungover

Bloody Xmas parties

Someone bring me chips and gravy along with a large pizza, ham, salami, prawns, cheese, olives

Those pizza toppings are what I order plus anchovies. Got one last night but they left off the bloody salami, spewing.

 

[Hairy Lager]

Those pizza toppings are what I order plus anchovies. Got one last night but they left off the bloody salami, spewing.

I get Dangersalami with a nice Bontempelli cheese, works well for me.

 

[catstragic]

From 2013-2016

Patrick Dangerfield: 85 games @ 116 average
Scott Pendleburry: 87 games @ 121 average
Tom Rockliff: 72 games @ 113 average
Nat Fyfe: 60 games @ 116

Dangerfield = not a lock. Only thing he has on Rocky/Fyfe is durability, which is admittedly a pretty big thing. Is that worth 100k+ though? I don't think so.

Id say a trade is worth 100K-especially towards the end of season. The bigger issue is just because he has been durable doesnt mean he will continue to be durable. Any player is only 2 seconds away from a season ender........

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Those pizza toppings are what I order plus anchovies. Got one last night but they left off the bloody salami, spewing.

Sounds good but I hate that cheap shredded ham, ruins a pizza.

 

[markm106]

I think there was a fair bit of danger discussion last pre season. He's cost more this year but still worth the pick as he was last year.

 

[KenTucker]

Sounds good but I hate that cheap shredded ham, ruins a pizza.

Agree, leg ham is ok.

 

[Moustachio]

Id say a trade is worth 100K-especially towards the end of season. The bigger issue is just because he has been durable doesnt mean he will continue to be durable. Any player is only 2 seconds away from a season ender........

Hrm wouldn't a trade be worth more at start of season since you have many rounds left for it to earn you points

 

[catstragic]

Hrm wouldn't a trade be worth more at start of season since you have many rounds left for it to earn you points

Depends-In this case we are talking about a sideways trade(premo-premo) which is not the sort of thing that you should be considering early in the season.
You have to burn 20-25 trades to get to full premo+coverage+injuries+corrections so you can kind of write them off at the start of the season.
Also, the more trades you have, the less each is worth. Many would give their left nut for one more trade come finals time, Many are doing stupid sideways/speculative/point chasing trades early in the season. thus trades are worth more at season end.

 

[gutsroy]

Danger: Those not worried about possible regression / dip in value if he doesn't get off to a flyer and keen on an extra C option from the word go will start him, those who see it the other way might be inclined to take their chances, I guess. Fwiw, I'm in the latter camp. Life'd be boring if we were all the same.

Trade Value: See it like Moustachio, decreasing toward the end of the year, because the timeframe for the potential differential point gain is shorter. This isn't really rigorous, but I picture it peaking around the round 7-13 mark in general (most rookie / midpricer appreciation in place by around that time, with chances to bring in premos / fallen premos and boost projected score for a fair chunk of season- or something like that given finite number of trades).

Starting side: Apart from maybe 1-2 like Gawn / Danger if you're that way inclined, lower relative SD, high avg premos seem better options than those with a larger spread, because they're more likely to have stable production / less likely to throw up differentials true vs market price, no?

Could just be talking out of my arse, though, tbh.

 

[croweyrocks]

I'm thinking Viney and Wines could be good POD breakout mids this year. Not in my team currently but if you get one on these right you're doing well.
Also think Dylan Shiel and B Crouch are other good potentials.

Wines averaged 107 after the bye round and IMO had a poor season. I started him last season and can't bring myself to pick him again. I actually think SPP being drafted to Port will help Boak and Wines' output this season.

 

[gutsroy]

Cripps update for those interested:
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-18/round-one-guaranteed-for-sore-blue-patrick-cripps

 

[Daniels]

Still hungover

Bloody Xmas parties

Someone bring me chips and gravy along with a large pizza, ham, salami, prawns, cheese, olives

Sack the olives.

 

[markm106]

Cripps update for those interested:
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-18/round-one-guaranteed-for-sore-blue-patrick-cripps

I was keen on Cripp pre the injury. He's going to miss too much pre season for my liking.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

I was keen on Cripp pre the injury. He's going to miss too much pre season for my liking.

Did somebody say upgrade target

 

[mightypowerrrr]

rockliff will score less points with beams, right

 

[Super Hans]

Coniglio anyone?

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Coniglio anyone?

Reckon he improves his average a tad but no GWS, no Hawthorn midfielders for me.
Too much point sharing.