2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread - Part III

[baldandbroke]

So for all the bluster, he got done for an illegal tackle and is suspended. Great.

As far as the Brownlow goes ... it's time to accept that the Brownlow is an award for the midfielder that catches the umpire's eye the most without getting suspended by an easily corrupted and twisted process. In no way is it for the fairest and best player, it is a ridiculously compromised award.

There are two things that would make this whole shamozzle even funnier:

1. if there was a massive push to change the eligibility rules for the Brownlow - and then someone who gets suspended but is still eligible wins the Brownlow next year.
2. if Geelong lose to Sydney this week and they miss the top 4 by a game - and then get bundled out in the first week of the finals. The salt would be monumental.

 

[Tyls83]

Robbo has lost the plot

 

[Niximus]

There are two things that would make this whole shamozzle even funnier:

1. if there was a massive push to change the eligibility rules for the Brownlow - and then someone who gets suspended but is still eligible wins the Brownlow next year.

The best would be if that happens because of this, and Danger is the runner-up who would have won had the other player still been ineligible.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Appealing this would have been a dick move. I'm glad they accepted the punishment.

 

[Saethiaal6]

Fair enough that danger gets a week, don't like that players risk an extra week for arguing their case though.

 

[Samcro24]

Forget it's danger, and forget the Brownlow eligibility debate for a second...

Are we happy to see players suspended for this?

I don't like to see ugly incidents and am all for trying to reduce them. However I've seen the tackle many times and can't see a suspension in it no matter how hard I try. I find it quite rediculous really.

Of all the incidents they highlighted last night in comparison, the only one that looked bad was cam McCarthys pile driver.

Just think we are inching closer towards no tackling.

 

[ad victoriam]

With the Dangerfield situation, I would be more interested if he polled any more vote this year.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Forget it's danger, and forget the Brownlow eligibility debate for a second...

Are we happy to see players suspended for this?

I don't like to see ugly incidents and am all for trying to reduce them. However I've seen the tackle many times and can't see a suspension in it no matter how hard I try. I find it quite rediculous really.

Of all the incidents they highlighted last night in comparison, the only one that looked bad was cam McCarthys pile driver.

Just think we are inching closer towards no tackling.

Read up on CTE and the issues about that.

 

[Samcro24]

Read up on CTE and the issues about that.

The only solution is to make it a non contact sport then isn't it?

 

[DD#23]

Forget it's danger, and forget the Brownlow eligibility debate for a second...

Are we happy to see players suspended for this?

I don't like to see ugly incidents and am all for trying to reduce them. However I've seen the tackle many times and can't see a suspension in it no matter how hard I try. I find it quite rediculous really.

Of all the incidents they highlighted last night in comparison, the only one that looked bad was cam McCarthys pile driver.

Just think we are inching closer towards no tackling.

absolutely I'm happy with it.

I'm a massive fan of "making them earn it" and physicality in football, but that doesn't mean you should be able to dump a bloke's head into the ground.

Kruezer's concussion was largely avoidable IMO, keep suspending players for it, only way they seem to learn.

 

[LiamPickering]

Oh and it's doubly hilarious because they play Sydney at Simonds this week. Sydney have a decent record there. And Geelong bat 2 (now 1) deep in the middle

Ah well, I'm sure a few eye gouges will sort them out.

 

[NikkiNoo]

The only solution is to make it a non contact sport then isn't it?

Nope, the aim is try to mitigate the type of tackles that will generally cause a concussion where possible. Those rules have been in place for a couple of years but only right now it's a problem because poor paddy? The Burgoyne tackle should have been a suspension but he got a nice guy discount. There is the no sliding rule now, just like there is the dangerous tackle rule. Concussions are a very serious issue, and players need to learn to tackle properly. Why hasn't the head of the AFLPA managed to learn to do it properly considering the reason we have the dangerous tackle rule in the first place was because of the Viney tackle on him?

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Fair enough that danger gets a week, don't like that players risk an extra week for arguing their case though.

They don't. He got a 2 game ban, which was reduced if he plead guilty.

So it's a discount for pleading guilty, not a penalty for arguing the case. It happens in legal cases all the time.

 

[SugarShane]

Be careful what you wish for.
Hard to establish who I hate more.

Not for me. Geelong by so far that it's not funny.

 

[SugarShane]

Dangerfield should stay at home for the medal count, with a media throng on his doorstep. James Hird to present medal to winner ..

Dangerfield to stay away from the media? Does not compute. He's the only player that doorstops the media as soon as they leave their homes.

 

[earlsta]

Harsh on danger imo.
Don't forget we're stressing out over Lever and being mad etc.. how many games as Lever played for us?

Danger gave us over 150 games... and you could say he's even closer to his fam than Lever is, it's obvious danger has a clique back in moggs.. but he still stuck around for awhile.
For his sake I hope Dustin gets more votes but I don't think that will happen. Will be awkward for all.

 

[subaru]

"Hey Danger, guess what? No Charlie for you!"

I'd love to know what he's saying

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

Harsh on danger imo.
Don't forget we're stressing out over Lever and being mad etc.. how many games as Lever played for us?

Danger gave us over 150 games... and you could say he's even closer to his fam than Lever is, it's obvious danger has a clique back in moggs.. but he still stuck around for awhile.
For his sake I hope Dustin gets more votes but I don't think that will happen. Will be awkward for all.

No doubt Martin will get more votes. People forget danger had a very lean middle 6 weeks or so where as Martin has been the standout and consistent performer in another top 4 team. Martin getting 40 votes wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[subaru]

Now I really, really want Dangerfield to poll the most votes in the Brownlow. The tears would be the greatest gift to football.

I posted on the assumption this would happen but now it actually could :
He would be the one to present it

Gives it to himself - hands it back - and gives it to Martin who wins another Brownlow off the back of winner being ineligible !

How's the Brownlow working for you, AFL?

 

[chazwazza]

Fair enough that danger gets a week, don't like that players risk an extra week for arguing their case though.

The MRP penalty is two weeks not one. He gets a week off the initial penalty if he accepts it without contesting. He doesn't get an extra week, he just gets the original penalty should he contest.
Why is this so hard for people to comprehend?

 

[jo172]

Fair enough that danger gets a week, don't like that players risk an extra week for arguing their case though.

It's not getting an extra week for arguing your case, it's forgoing your discount for not pleading guilty.

While they both get you to the same destination they're conceptually very different things

 

[Samcro24]

absolutely I'm happy with it.

I'm a massive fan of "making them earn it" and physicality in football, but that doesn't mean you should be able to dump a bloke's head into the ground.

Kruezer's concussion was largely avoidable IMO, keep suspending players for it, only way they seem to learn.

I actually agree with those who say it looks like he tried to turn him.

At the end of the day it's an accident in a relatively dangerous game. I don't like seeing suspensions unless it's reckless or dirty.

 

[Runnin Blue]

I'd love to know what he's saying

Hard to tell, but I like to think the last bit is "you ****head!"

 

[Niximus]

Hard to tell, but I like to think the last bit is "you ****head!"

It could also be "your ****ing head in".

Pull or smash, I don't know.

 

[Squiba]

I reckon it is 'pull your flicken head in'