Training 2017 Preseason

[a mayes ing]

There was a pretty good comment made on the Lions FB page from the article of Rhys using those mask thingy's. Pretty much echo's what I was thinking when reading the comments here. But not being medical/science person, didn't want to comment.


Blayze Sherry Just throwing this out there........
There is little to NO evidence coming from and sports science study that shows altitude masks or restricted breathing equates to long term aerobic performance.

Also the lung is not a muscle you CANNOT! train it or make it stronger and breath more,

you may be applying resistance to the intercostal and diaphragm muscles but again these muscle are not the limiting factor in breathing, the problem is the carbon dioxide produced by exercise that the body has to clear and this takes the place that oxygen would have to be transported throughout the body.

This is for all the young guys that are being tricked by the fancy advertising, don't waist your time or money.

l remember seeing that as well. I am no science guru but what about holding breath under water and specific training techniques to allow you to hold you breath for longer periods. Wouldn't that be training your lungs?

 

[Jivlain]

There was a pretty good comment made on the Lions FB page from the article of Rhys using those mask thingy's. Pretty much echo's what I was thinking when reading the comments here. But not being medical/science person, didn't want to comment.


Blayze Sherry Just throwing this out there........
There is little to NO evidence coming from and sports science study that shows altitude masks or restricted breathing equates to long term aerobic performance.

Also the lung is not a muscle you CANNOT! train it or make it stronger and breath more,

you may be applying resistance to the intercostal and diaphragm muscles but again these muscle are not the limiting factor in breathing, the problem is the carbon dioxide produced by exercise that the body has to clear and this takes the place that oxygen would have to be transported throughout the body.

This is for all the young guys that are being tricked by the fancy advertising, don't waist your time or money.

I think this 2012 meta-analysis [PDF] offers a pretty good state of play

• Some improvement
• Improvement was greatest in people who weren't already reasonably fit
• Improves some measures, not others

Pretty picture:

 

[Mr Ripper]

Need to get the boys back into those power bracelets.

 

[Crimso]

Need to get the boys back into those power bracelets.

Those the ones that if they don't do certain amounts of exercise the bracelet explodes?

 

[Mr Ripper]

Those the ones that if they don't do certain amounts of exercise the bracelet explodes?

No, we can't afford the deluxe model.

 

[jackess]

Those the ones that if they don't do certain amounts of exercise the bracelet explodes?

If they drop below a certain speed it explodes

 

[Crusha]

Those the ones that if they don't do certain amounts of exercise the bracelet explodes?

Is that what happened to Greeny ?????
Wondered where he went.

 

[BRAB]

I always thought it was about overcoming the mental aspect of performing strenous exercise under a high load.

No pure physiological benefit but in professional sport physiology isn't the only aspect that determines your performance

 

[Lace Out]

These help too,should they be tested on driving

 

[Surly Boy]

 

[Milux]

Beastmode looks ripping fit. Not to mention he wouldnt look out of place in the ring either.

 

[L Dizz]

There was a pretty good comment made on the Lions FB page from the article of Rhys using those mask thingy's. Pretty much echo's what I was thinking when reading the comments here. But not being medical/science person, didn't want to comment.


Blayze Sherry Just throwing this out there........
There is little to NO evidence coming from and sports science study that shows altitude masks or restricted breathing equates to long term aerobic performance.

Also the lung is not a muscle you CANNOT! train it or make it stronger and breath more,

you may be applying resistance to the intercostal and diaphragm muscles but again these muscle are not the limiting factor in breathing, the problem is the carbon dioxide produced by exercise that the body has to clear and this takes the place that oxygen would have to be transported throughout the body.

This is for all the young guys that are being tricked by the fancy advertising, don't waist your time or money.

What that guy says is largely true. Without going into details, the current view is that altitude training isn't terribly effective unless it's in preparation to compete at altitude.

I get the feeling the original article just referred to it as altitude training to simplify it for the readers.

I think the biggest benefits from that kind of thing would be psychological, as in you feel amazing and like you can run like wind once it's off because you can breathe properly.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Beastmode looks ripping fit. Not to mention he wouldnt look out of place in the ring either.

Clearly his tank was his biggest achilles heel this year. Great to see him attack it hard.

 

[BuntonRules]

Clearly his tank was his biggest achilles heel this year. Great to see him attack it hard.

Rocky 2. Doubt wether he will be as disruptive in the future, but.

 

[Jman78]

Just a huge fan of him committing to building his tank before the pre-season. Good on him, You' d think Fagan and co. will be impressed with that too.

 

[Gadzorks]

He had some good examples to follow in the team - like the boys doing the noose tri last weekend. they have to put in a bit of early off season training for that.

 

[M Malice]

the boys are back on monday, would love to get down there, no mention yet on whether it is an open session and what time and where it is. IIRC i went to last seasons very first session.

any insiders got some info?

 

[Skoob]

the boys are back on monday, would love to get down there, no mention yet on whether it is an open session and what time and where it is. IIRC i went to last seasons very first session.

any insiders got some info?

 

[The Bear]

If there's an open session on Tuesday, I'll go. How do we find out?

 

[Lace Out]

If there's an open session on Tuesday, I'll go. How do we find out?

Keep an eye on this thread.

 

[M Malice]

lions.com

The off-season comes to an end for some of our players on Monday as the 1-4 year players return to the Club.

We will see first year players such as Keays, Hipwood, Schache and Mathieson return for their first full pre-season training regime as well as The Recruit winner Matty Eagles, who will join the club for his first pre-season.

1-4 years returning
Matty Eagles
Eric Hipwood
Ben Keays
Rhys Mathieson
Josh Schache
Sam Skinner
Reuben William
Harris Andrews
Josh Clayton
Liam Dawson
Matt Hammelmann
Cian Hanley
Tom Cutler
Jono Freeman
Darcy Gardiner
Dan McStay
Nicholas Robertson
Archie Smith
Lewis Taylor
Jarrad Jansen
Michael Close
Sam Mayes
Marco Paparone

 

[Billy Puller]

lions.com

The off-season comes to an end for some of our players on Monday as the 1-4 year players return to the Club.

We will see first year players such as Keays, Hipwood, Schache and Mathieson return for their first full pre-season training regime as well as The Recruit winner Matty Eagles, who will join the club for his first pre-season.

1-4 years returning
Matty Eagles
Eric Hipwood
Ben Keays
Rhys Mathieson
Josh Schache
Sam Skinner
Reuben William
Harris Andrews
Josh Clayton
Liam Dawson
Matt Hammelmann
Cian Hanley
Tom Cutler
Jono Freeman
Darcy Gardiner
Dan McStay
Nicholas Robertson
Archie Smith
Lewis Taylor
Jarrad Jansen
Michael Close
Sam Mayes
Marco Paparone

I wonder if any of the academy boys will be joining them, could be a good indication of who we're going to take.

 

[Fatcat08]

I wonder if any of the academy boys will be joining them, could be a good indication of who we're going to take.

Pretty sure they're not allowed too. Only non listed players allowed to are when the AIS AFL academy intake for next years draft are billeted out for a week to all of the teams.

 

[M Malice]

I wonder if any of the academy boys will be joining them, could be a good indication of who we're going to take.

i'm also expecting to see a fair few of the 5+ year guys down there as well, you want to make a good impression with the new boss, even if they only do 1 or 2 sessions a week till they are due back full time in a few weeks.

 

[Lace Out]

Would be nice if Rocky got there early.Would be a positive hint to his attitude.