List Mgmt. 2018 Draft/Trade/FA Thread

[17er]

Gold Coast Academy players shortlisted to play for Allies in U18 National Championships

Emmanuel Baru 2/7/99 188cm 81kg Labrador
Ryan Gilmore 28/08/00 187 84 Hermit Park/Labrador
Caleb Graham 12/9/00 194 84 Palm Beach Currumbin
Dirk Koenen 1/1/00 194 87 Palm Beach Currumbin
Bailey Scott 9/7/00 186 64 Broadbeach
Lachlan McDonald 2/3/00 185 75 Labrador
Connor Budarick 6/4/01 175 70 Labrador (bottom ager, eligible for 2019 Draft)
Timakoi Bowie 4/4/99 175 82 Broadbeach

The PBC factory produced only 2 Allies players this year, with Labrador, the Alma Mater of Yours Truly, supplying 4 players and Broadbeach a further 2. Labrador's Gilmore is originally from Hermit Park in Townsville, which has produced AFL players Josh Jenkins and Jake Spencer, our own Academy Graduates Josh Williams and Braydon Preuss, as well as Suns original, Jarrad Harbrow. Looks like we have more than one factory if we can continue to invest Academy resources and Draft picks into quality juniors.

Of the 8 Suns Academy players selected for the 50 man Allies Squad, 6 are eligible to be nominated at the Draft, with Labrador's Budarick being too young for the 2018 Draft and Bailey Scott yet to commit to either the Suns, Roos or Cats (or Vice Versa).

Graham and Scott played in last year's Allies team and were frequently mentioned among the best performers, so you'd expect them to smash it out of the park on their way to being Drafted, hopefully both by the Suns, as they have both been touted as 2nd round picks. Baru and Bowie have featured heavily in the Suns NEAFL team and will go to this year's Draft as 19 year olds, with each probably a ceiling of Rookie Draft. Koenen and McDonald have been among the best in the Academy Series, so along with Gilmore they will be vying for game time and a chance at making an AFL list.

Non-selected Suns Academy 18 yos

Matthew Smith 19/02/00 185 101 Broadbeach
Cory Beaman 3/5/00 186 78 Burleigh/Palm Beach Currumbin
Fitzroy Greenwool 24/4/00 172 58 Cape York Eagles/Broadbeach
Cooper Portelli 11/8/00 186 80 Labrador
Dean Katsiris 16/08/00 180 80 Palm Beach Currumbin
Tui Lowah 8/4/00 175 72 Cape York Eagles/Labrador
Jarrod Mills 24/03/00 177 77 Labrador
Kane Haua 5/7/00 184 77 BITS Saints/Labrador
Ari Miles 16/08/00 186 93 Yeppoon/Palm Beach Currumbin
Rainsford Stone 19/6/00 192 91 Surfers Paradise
Matthew Conroy 7/11/00 198 83 Hermit Park/Broadbeach
Jackson Brumley 28/09/00 198 90 Labrador

As for the group of players who missed Allies selection, several of them have been playing NEAFL and all may now compete to make the team. Jacob Heron made it to the Rookie list from this group last year and Connor Nutting originally missed Allies selection before being called up to star for them and get Drafted. Expect several of these guys to return next season and catch them in the NEAFL as the Senior List continues to have such a long injury list.

19 yos possible bolters for Draft/Rookie selection

Brodie Foster 3/3/99 178 78 Surfers Paradise
Harrison Arnold 8/4/99 193 84 Labrador
Damien Burke 21/01/99 189 82 Broadbeach
Riley Dreghorn 16/4/99 196 87 Mackay City Hawks/Broadbeach
Jared Neuhaus 23/11/99 205 94 Palm Beach Currumbin
Harry Simington 28/03/99 189 85 Labrador
Kwaby Boakye 16/03/99 188 87 Broadbeach
Jayden Verdoorn 29/11/99 185 84 Palm Beach Currumbin

Each of these players has had 2 preseasons, 2 Academy Series and plenty of NEAFL matches, so essentially they have to impress scouts in the remainder of this season to find a spot on a Rookie List. I like Foster the most out of this group, with Neuhaus and Dreghorn project ruckmen worth giving an opportunity.

Bottom Agers/2019 Draft predictions

James Mohr 5/2/01 182 72 Labrador
Jack Wingrave 3/8/01 183 69 Burleigh/Palm Beach Currumbin
Ashton Crossley 10/8/01 182 84 Burleigh/Palm Beach Currumbin - brother of Brayden
Corey Joyce 20/04/01 174 66 Palm Beach Currumbin- brother of Jesse
Josh Molloy 3/2/01 188 77 Southport
Joshua Gore 29/05/01 176 76 Southport
Mitchell Fitzpatrick 11/1/01 178 75 Springwood
Hewago Paul Oea 13/11/01 170 62 PNG/Broadbeach
Matthew Fraser 5/5/01 177 80 Southport
Billy Birch 13/04/01 187 86 Broadbeach
Zach Briggs 20/08/01 185 72 Park Ridge
Coby Williams 17/05/01 186 70 Palm Beach Currumbin
Kyriel Pope 11/7/01 177 61 Burleigh
Samuel Johnston 21/08/01 197 77 Palm Beach Currumbin
Riley Buckland 9/4/01 174 60 Palm Beach Currumbin

As the Suns Academy grows, so too do the opportunities for Academy underaged players, with several of these guys already blooded in the NEAFL at age 16 or 17. Connor Budarick leads this group with his inclusion in the Allies, but there are at least half a dozen talented kids here who will challenge him for an Academy Draft nomination.

italics denotes NEAFL experience

 

[THE_GUN]

I got a bit of news today from a client that knows Mav Weller real well and he mentioned that Mav is out of contract at the end of the year and looking to head back to Gold Coast and looking foward to playing with his brother next year.

He mentioned that Weller was pretty confident that he would be in queensland next year and almost like he knew it would happen, He also mentioned that he has had the feelers out for a place close to where his brother lives.

Just thought it might be interesting, As i said this is what my client told me today and he has not given me information before but he knows weller well and is not really a footy nut but had this information.

Happy to disclose how he knows him and how the converstaion came to place if a mod wants to PM me for details

 

[nutstar]

Your source I have little doubts is credible on this occasion, others on here have mentioned this before . The real question will come whether the sun's find room on the list for Mav, for mine I'd pick him up on the cheap as long as he knows there's a chance he'll be in the reserves unless we get a tonne of injuries, which for us seems a given.

 

[Sunny_]

Or if the Suns want him given how his exit with us was.

 

[SunsBhoy]

Or if the Suns want him given how his exit with us was.

Totally different admin to when he left , will be a good depth player but if we are to make inroads on the ladder we need a A grade mid.


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[robo_1]

I got a bit of news today from a client that knows Mav Weller real well and he mentioned that Mav is out of contract at the end of the year and looking to head back to Gold Coast and looking foward to playing with his brother next year.

He mentioned that Weller was pretty confident that he would be in queensland next year and almost like he knew it would happen, He also mentioned that he has had the feelers out for a place close to where his brother lives.

Just thought it might be interesting, As i said this is what my client told me today and he has not given me information before but he knows weller well and is not really a footy nut but had this information.

Happy to disclose how he knows him and how the converstaion came to place if a mod wants to PM me for details

I think there are better players available than Mav Weller

 

[Sunny_]

Totally different admin to when he left , will be a good depth player but if we are to make inroads on the ladder we need a A grade mid.


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Yep - very good point. Mostly all different Coaches and staff. Agree on depth player. Maybe makes a good defensive forward.

 

[Iva Bigun]

I think there are better players available than Mav Weller

Bring back Gorringe

Making a play for Mav is brainless, he is cooked but it sounds like something we would do. No doubt we will offer up the Eagles first rounder for him.

 

[TheSunGod]

I think there are better players available than Mav Weller

Yeah but do they want to come here?

Unfortunately in our position we almost need to take what we can get.

 

[robo_1]

Yeah but do they want to come here?

Unfortunately in our position we almost need to take what we can get.

Plenty of fringe players who can’t get games in stronger teams than st kilda.. getting MAV Weller back would be like getting walker from Brisbane who wouldn’t get a game in any other team

Look at the guy who geelong picked up from the wafl and the guy who Collingwood got from Sydney! The issue is we continually get top end picks so we keep going to the draft and getting players with talent and potential

 

[Scotty_222]

Plenty of fringe players who can’t get games in stronger teams than st kilda.. getting MAV Weller back would be like getting walker from Brisbane who wouldn’t get a game in any other team

Look at the guy who geelong picked up from the wafl and the guy who Collingwood got from Sydney! The issue is we continually get top end picks so we keep going to the draft and getting players with talent and potential

There is talk Tim Kelly is going to go back to WA at the end of the year. Due to being homesick

 

[robo_1]

There is talk Tim Kelly is going to go back to WA at the end of the year. Due to being homesick

That’s untrue! He was only on a one year contract he’s put negotiations on hold.. but his partner is still living in wa with their 3 children which two are newborn twins and she doesn’t want to move away from her family


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[Scotty_222]

That’s untrue! He was only on a one year contract he’s put negotiations on hold.. but his partner is still living in wa with their 3 children which two are newborn twins and she doesn’t want to move away from her family


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So.. that is true? That doesn’t make sense

 

[robo_1]

So.. that is true? That doesn’t make sense

He’s not homesick though she doesn’t want to move

 

[Scotty_222]

He’s not homesick though she doesn’t want to move

He wants to be with his family? Isn’t that being homesick?

 

[Sunny_]

That was the whole reason interstate clubs didn't draft Kelly to begin with. They knew of his family situation. Geelong took the gamble anyway though and hoped they could settle him. They still might be able to do it.

 

[TheSunGod]

He’s not homesick though she doesn’t want to move

Sounds a bit like O’Cockface where the GF wouldn’t contemplate a move to the Gold Coast.

 

[TheSunGod]

Plenty of fringe players who can’t get games in stronger teams than st kilda.. getting MAV Weller back would be like getting walker from Brisbane who wouldn’t get a game in any other team

Look at the guy who geelong picked up from the wafl and the guy who Collingwood got from Sydney! The issue is we continually get top end picks so we keep going to the draft and getting players with talent and potential

Agree in that I don’t want him either, but going by what Clayton said, we are greatly compromised by the large number of potential draftees who don’t want to live here... which to me is really bizarre as the Goldy is one of the best places on the planet to live... maybe it’s a PlayStation generation thing that I am too old to relate to?

 

[OB11]

Bring back Gorringe

Making a play for Mav is brainless, he is cooked but it sounds like something we would do. No doubt we will offer up the Eagles first rounder for him.

He's old, not good and will be delisted by one of the worst teams in the comp. At this stage he is just a list clogger. Use draft picks to get talent and then convince them to stay with success.

Hopefully he has been able to secure a deal with the Southport Sharks.

If his brother was Dustin Martin and not Lachie Weller I 'may' consider picking him up just for that.

 

[THE_GUN]

I think there are better players available than Mav Weller

Just some info i got last night that i would share, From what my client said Mav is looking to move and i was surprised that he would talk about this type of thing if there was nothing in the air

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

Agree in that I don’t want him either, but going by what Clayton said, we are greatly compromised by the large number of potential draftees who don’t want to live here... which to me is really bizarre as the Goldy is one of the best places on the planet to live... maybe it’s a PlayStation generation thing that I am too old to relate to?

Nearly all players we draft are happy to extend their contracts or sign a 2nd deal. I don’t think it’s the location that’s the issue.

 

[Basssman]

It’s the success and playing in front of pathetic crowds which entices them back to Melbourne, once we start winning more games holding onto players won’t be as much of an issue


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[TheSunGod]

Nearly all players we draft are happy to extend their contracts or sign a 2nd deal. I don’t think it’s the location that’s the issue.

It’s the success and playing in front of pathetic crowds which entices them back to Melbourne, once we start winning more games holding onto players won’t be as much of an issue


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Yeah this makes more sense. Thinking back to the Bears it was a bit of a struggle to get players to move up here without extraordinary big money offers. The extra salary cap allowances they received helped to lure players like Lynch, Merrett, Lambert etc.
pity we don't have an extra equivalent amount in today's money just to boost the playing stocks in the short term.
At least no one will be able to say we were gifted a flag when we do eventually have some success.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

Yeah this makes more sense. Thinking back to the Bears it was a bit of a struggle to get players to move up here without extraordinary big money offers. The extra salary cap allowances they received helped to lure players like Lynch, Merrett, Lambert etc.
pity we don't have an extra equivalent amount in today's money just to boost the playing stocks in the short term.
At least no one will be able to say we were gifted a flag when we do eventually have some success.

Eddie made the biggest song and dance about COLA, and then water free agency.
The league rolled over like always and before you know it his team is full of GWS players, and both Qld teams struggling to retain theirs due to lack of success.
We just need to start winning.

 

[GCStormie]

Mav might be looking to do an Andrew Swallow and come back to play NEAFL for a non Suns side? While still living near family.