The pick swap evens out primarily due to how Crows finished the season. Absolutely agree.
Pick 3 for 8 and 19 is reasonable.
Pick 3 for 15 and 19 would have heavily favoured the Crows.
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The pick swap evens out primarily due to how Crows finished the season. Absolutely agree.
Pick 3 for 8 and 19 is reasonable.
Pick 3 for 15 and 19 would have heavily favoured the Crows.
Agree with you the Crows would never have expected to finish 2019 season outside of the the 8.
If Stocker turns out close to expectations, then I’m quite comfortable with our outcome. Silvagni took a risk, it was an astute maneuver, he’s gained invaluable experience which will give us an edge this trade period.
According to some draft watchers, outside the top 2 picks none of this years 10 would make last years top 10.
I doubt GC would take pick 3 for Lukosius, heck they may have picks 1 and 2 in hand. Some in SA are mooting this. I don’t see happening.
I doubt GC would take pick 3 for Lukosius, heck they may have picks 1 and 2 in hand. Some in SA are mooting this. I don’t see happening.
It was never in doubt. SOS wins the trade like he knew we would. Adelaide scrambling. Will not get much. Years in the doldrums await
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It’s as locked in as it’s likely to get until the end of November. Even then the picks could be on-traded for more future picks and we could end up doing it all again.
The more i am hearing the more i am certain they will get pick 2 as a priority unfortunately.
I am hoping its not the case, we could really use Anderson.
Yep SOS had Adelaide's list sussed when everyone else thought he was crazy (where are those people now)
Right here, he had no idea... remember this comment? What if we finish higher than Adelaide! The guy thought you were going to finish higher than us. What happened?
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Bolton blew it, so thank your lucky stars we only finished 3 games behind you.....and yes the Adelaide crows fans have been very, very quite!!!
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We had bolton sussed and had he stayed, pick 1- so why did your club bleedy well sack him. He the man for your rebuild
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SOS knew Carlton would improve and Adelaide will fall down the ladder. This is what the trade was all about.
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I believe Adelaide are now talking to him for the replacement of Pyke!!!
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no one has won this trade yet.
all depends on how the players go in their careers.
Eg. Stocker may be a superstar, brownlow medalist/norm smith medalist so therefore Carlton would of won. If he gets delisted in a year or two obviously the Crows would of won
all depends on how the players go in their careers.
Eg. Stocker may be a superstar, brownlow medalist/norm smith medalist so therefore Carlton would of won. If he gets delisted in a year or two obviously the Crows would of won
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So SOS knew that Bolton was not the man to coach the blues halfway into this season when he made the trade? -because changing bolton changed your finish position
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What if pick 8 becomes a better player than pick 3?
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same thing obviously....
What if we finish above Adelaide.... is that you SOS?
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We did beat your healthy top 4 list with 6 players out. Reid should be thanking his lucky stars our improvement didn’t bear fruit earlier on.
Happy to continually swap firsts with the Crows.
When assessing "who won the trade" you have to realise that live trading on draft night puts a name to a number.
Carlton, rightly or wrongly, had Stocker at No.6 on their Board.
Adelaide, rightly or wrongly, didn't have Stocker in their Top 15.
So it very much can be a winning trade for both Clubs. This is the essence of live trading, being able to put a name to a number. Especially for the team trading up.
For Carlton, Stocker(their Pick 6 in 2018 draft now with 12 needed months under Andrew Russell) and Pick 8 for Pick 3 is a big win.
For Adelaide, Pick 3 for Pick 8 and no player they rated highly being left on the board last year at Pick 19 is maybe not a win, but is more than ok.
Carlton, rightly or wrongly, had Stocker at No.6 on their Board.
Adelaide, rightly or wrongly, didn't have Stocker in their Top 15.
So it very much can be a winning trade for both Clubs. This is the essence of live trading, being able to put a name to a number. Especially for the team trading up.
For Carlton, Stocker(their Pick 6 in 2018 draft now with 12 needed months under Andrew Russell) and Pick 8 for Pick 3 is a big win.
For Adelaide, Pick 3 for Pick 8 and no player they rated highly being left on the board last year at Pick 19 is maybe not a win, but is more than ok.
Perhaps if we'd pulled the trigger earlier on Bolton he would have been right. I thought you were supposed to finish Top 4 with your easy draw. What happened??
Only took sacking your coach
And Reid is thanking his lucky stars. He has just given the crows pick 3 thanks to SOS
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It’s a win win trade folks
- Adelaide get their chance to draft from pick 3. They’ve not had a pick this early before. This player could help set them up for the next rebuild and tilt
- Carlton get their chance to draft two first rounders to complement the team they’ve been building for the last 3 years
- Adelaide get their chance to draft from pick 3. They’ve not had a pick this early before. This player could help set them up for the next rebuild and tilt
- Carlton get their chance to draft two first rounders to complement the team they’ve been building for the last 3 years
I believe the term is shit the bed
With all the posturing during the year, it has actually worked out to be even.
Adelaide would be extremely happy to get pick 3. I don’t think they were too fussed about pick 19 last year because they probably had the trade with GWS worked out already for Carlton’s second this year and swapping pick 24 for 28 last years draft.
Carlton would be extremely happy that they got their man Stocker at 19 and have already got a year of development into him. They also got pick 8 which could end up landing them somebody like Martin or Papley which is probably what they need the most.
Very much a win/win
Adelaide would be extremely happy to get pick 3. I don’t think they were too fussed about pick 19 last year because they probably had the trade with GWS worked out already for Carlton’s second this year and swapping pick 24 for 28 last years draft.
Carlton would be extremely happy that they got their man Stocker at 19 and have already got a year of development into him. They also got pick 8 which could end up landing them somebody like Martin or Papley which is probably what they need the most.
Very much a win/win
