2018 pre season

[Forward We Go]

Then there’s sponsership commitments, club commitments going to local clubs and community engagement.

The fact you’d never be able to let your hair down without some ****head and a video camera catching your every move. (Hogan’s cigarette).

Stressful life. Not all can hack it or enjoy it. The fact you can’t just piss off with ya mates on any given weekend and get away from life. It’s an extremely controlled stressful full on environment.

As more money enters the sport the standards get higher and the lifestyle tougher. I’d love for the lions to make a video showing just how many hours the boys put in in a given week. I think it would be really insightful a week in the life following a couple of the boys.

I feel a lot of supporters don’t actually understand just how hard these guys are working.

The 60 hours a week includes appearances for club/sponsors etc. There is no doubt that an AFL footballers life is exciting, but I also have no doubt that most people think their life is an easy one which is wrong in plenty of ways. Given that the average carreer of an AFL footballer is just over 6 years, the $ they earn (although good) is a long way away from setting them up for life. Therefore they need another career after footy. In the past, plenty have done Uni courses throughout their footy season but that was when they were not spending 60 hours a week in their job. There is only a small few that have the ability to study while playing AFL at the highest level these days. Think most people assume an AFL footballers life is one that's easy & full of good times but really its not much different to any other job that has its good times but also has responsibilities & pressures to perform week after week.

 

[lioninthesand]

I still maintain that a Scott Pendlebry or Gary Ablett jnr wouldn't attend falls in their short christmas break and id prefer RohBew in his make or break year to be making every single sacrifice possible.

If it were me or what I would want our boys to be doing, a 4 day music festival during the Xmas break (subsequent to the footy trip and the large block of time off and after preseason resuming) wouldn't be high on the list.

However, my biggest gripe was the proximity to training at which they were returning.

I saw a post from Robbo on new years day saying 'enjoying the last 2 days of holidays' which I now think was in relation to his family holiday, not training going back.

I incorrectly assumed that meant we went back on the 3rd of Jan.

A week to recover from Falls changes my argument, that is largley ok IMO with a good week to recover and obviously why the club ticked off on it.

As I say id prefer they didnt, but Im not angered by it under those circumstances and had I not got the return date wrong, wouldn't have posted.

I apologise, should have got my facts straight and not wasted everyones time as my biggest concern was the proximity at which I thought the festival was to day 1.

Regardless - the levels of professionalism we want as fans should always engage healthy debate, especially from where we are coming from.

 

[Eons]

Most parents would average at least 80 hours a week working full time and looking after kids.

 

[Forward We Go]

Most parents would average at least 80 hours a week working full time and looking after kids.

And the relevance to this subject is?

 

[Gadzorks]

Most parents would average at least 80 hours a week working full time and looking after kids.

babies/kids are tough alright but most parents these days are not in their early 20s. Also, many people have family that can help (though not us unfortunately) or can access childcare. They still have to get the kid back but they can escape the minute by minute demand at some stages. Also, there are loads of people in the same position that you can connect with and gain support from even if its just a semi-regular bitch about how tough it is through parent groups, meeting at functions, friends etc. Very wide base of support in the community because a very large number of people can relate to the shared experience and understand its challenges. And while there are people who judge your parenting they generally don't get in your face about it. Re the music festival - I don't think any parent that farmed the kids out to family to spend a couple of days at a music festival would end up the centre of internet forum discourse.

Our players see the same group all the time so while they can discuss the stress they still need to work daily with these guys so they can't get too deep into their dissatisfaction because it turns the workplace sour - think go home 5 - and other people they interact with regularly don't understand. In fact, when the get together with other non-professional people they get hammered with questions about footy so it can actually add stress. It'd have to be pretty isolating.

 

[Eons]

And the relevance to this subject is?

No relevance to the discussion, in the grand scheme of things footy players have it pretty good.

 

[Brett C]

I still maintain that a Scott Pendlebry or Gary Ablett jnr wouldn't attend falls in their short christmas break and id prefer RohBew in his make or break year to be making every single sacrifice possible.

If it were me or what I would want our boys to be doing, a 4 day music festival during the Xmas break (subsequent to the footy trip and the large block of time off and after preseason resuming) wouldn't be high on the list.

However, my biggest gripe was the proximity to training at which they were returning.

I saw a post from Robbo on new years day saying 'enjoying the last 2 days of holidays' which I now think was in relation to his family holiday, not training going back.

I incorrectly assumed that meant we went back on the 3rd of Jan.

A week to recover from Falls changes my argument, that is largley ok IMO with a good week to recover and obviously why the club ticked off on it.

As I say id prefer they didnt, but Im not angered by it under those circumstances and had I not got the return date wrong, wouldn't have posted.

I apologise, should have got my facts straight and not wasted everyones time as my biggest concern was the proximity at which I thought the festival was to day 1.

Regardless - the levels of professionalism we want as fans should always engage healthy debate, especially from where we are coming from.

Really it’s time to move on. You’ve made massive assumptions about what the guys have gotten up to while on holidays or at falls and you keep piling sh*t on top to try and make yourself seem like the ultimate fan.

You talk about healthy debate when you have no idea what level of professionalism each player has. If you’re basing it on photos on Instagram then you really have no idea.

Tell me how much running or fitness work the guys did while at Falls? Tell me what they eat or drank while there? Did they get 8-9 hours sleep every night?

I saw a photo of Scott Pendlebury with his young son in a pool next to a winery, based on your Columbo level of deduction that means he got drunk and then didn’t sleep because he son was crying all night.

 

[lioninthesand]

Really it’s time to move on. You’ve made massive assumptions about what the guys have gotten up to while on holidays or at falls and you keep piling sh*t on top to try and make yourself seem like the ultimate fan.

You talk about healthy debate when you have no idea what level of professionalism each player has. If you’re basing it on photos on Instagram then you really have no idea.

Tell me how much running or fitness work the guys did while at Falls? Tell me what they eat or drank while there? Did they get 8-9 hours sleep every night?

I saw a photo of Scott Pendlebury with his young son in a pool next to a winery, based on your Columbo level of deduction that means he got drunk and then didn’t sleep because he son was crying all night.

Did you read my post mate?

 

[Brett C]

Did you read my post mate?

Yes

 

[lioninthesand]

Yes

Im confused. I basically retracted my comments and apologised for getting facts wrong - and you went for the 'prove what went on at falls' argument again.

Was a strange response, but yeah - maybe we just end it here.

 

[Brett C]

Im confused. I basically retracted my comments and apologised for getting facts wrong - and you went for the 'prove what went on at falls' argument again.

Was a strange response, but yeah - maybe we just end it here.

That’s not really how your post read at all.

You had multiple digs at the players again so it was a pretty crap retraction if that was your aim.

 

[lioninthesand]

That’s not really how your post read at all.

You had multiple digs at the players again so it was a pretty crap retraction if that was your aim.

I calmly reiterated what I would prefer as a fan (an opinion im allowed to have as a long time member, im not accusing them of a crime) and solidified some of my initial points, it would be ludacris to say 'I no longer cared about any of it'... but said under the circumstances (just like cancun and the other things they do)... IMO.. the trip to falls was fine given I got some info around dates wrong. And I apologised. Your further long winded response, retracing of old arguments and the Pendlebry comparison was bizaar, I thought you must have only read the opening paragraph.. but all good - seems like we are strung out on the issue now. As mentioned probably best we move on now, ive accepted I was wrong, you win.. haha

 

[acuguy]

Alright, well that argument got us through the last week of the break. I hope there will be an open training session this week. The kids would love the opportunity to go and watch.

 

[lioninthesand]

Alright, well that argument got us through the last week of the break. I hope there will be an open training session this week. The kids would love the opportunity to go and watch.

I was about to raise Mitch Robinson being at a day doof yesterday? But happy to go with open training if you think that's better?

He commented on being 10 years to old, might need to break it to RohBew at the next leading teams session hahaha

 

[Brett C]

I calmly reiterated what I would prefer as a fan (an opinion im allowed to have as a long time member, im not accusing them of a crime) and solidified some of my initial points, it would be ludacris to say 'I no longer cared about any of it'... but said under the circumstances (just like cancun and the other things they do)... IMO.. the trip to falls was fine given I got some info around dates wrong. And I apologised. Your further long winded response, retracing of old arguments and the Pendlebry comparison was bizaar, I thought you must have only read the opening paragraph.. but all good - seems like we are strung out on the issue now. As mentioned probably best we move on now, ive accepted I was wrong, you win.. haha

Well done you've been a fan for a long time, most of us have been. You've welcome to an opinion and I just pointed out that it's based on no knowledge just a couple of photos. The the Pendlebury comparison was point out just how stupid it would be to make an assumption based on a photo.

You still seem to understand just how qualified your so called apology was and how ludacrious (not spelt like the US rapper) your original post was.

 

[MacMum]

Give it a rest now guys....conversation should be over.

 

[snooplions]

Well done you've been a fan for a long time, most of us have been. You've welcome to an opinion and I just pointed out that it's based on no knowledge just a couple of photos. The the Pendlebury comparison was point out just how stupid it would be to make an assumption based on a photo.

You still seem to understand just how qualified your so called apology was and how ludacrious (not spelt like the US rapper) your original post was.

Considering you are the one who said it is time to move on, you're really not helping the situation do so.

 

[lioninthesand]

Sooo arr do we have any idea how the AFLX process works?

How much extra work is it for those playing? When is the team announced etc?

Do we think teams will send kids or the best available? Anyone have any insight?

 

[MacMum]

 

[Hollow Knight]

I like that they both misspelled ludicrous.

 

[charles202]

I like that they both misspelled ludicrous.

Misspelled or misspelt..I would have gone the latter

 

[Dalions]

"Hopefully" tomorrow is the day that we can start talking footy again.

 

[lioninthesand]

I like that they both misspelled ludicrous.

I'm a teen of the naughties and a rap fan, there is only one spelling.

Just like I love going to see the dinosaur xzibit at the museum.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Misspelled or misspelt..I would have gone the latter

So would I, and I did. Yank autocorrect screwed me I suspect.

 

[Dalions]

Good read, with a couple of Lions boys (via Geelong)

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-07/like-grandfathers-like-sons-lions-family-bond